Puppy in crate, Ollie sleeps where ???
When we had Ollie, the spolit so and so had a bedroom, vinyl floored and with a gate, my worry is if we do that with Jack, Ollie might feel left out ? |
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| Try crating Jack in the kitchen with Ollie when you're home (go in the other room and wait) and see how they both react.
With many dogs, it can really bother the crated one if there is a dog loose outside their crate. It seems to cause quite a bit of anxiety. Sometimes the loose dog seems to tease the crated dog, which drives the crated dog nuts. You may have no problem at all however, because Jack is so young and this could become the norm for him. Give it a try when you're at home and can observe from a distance. Make sure to give Jack a stuffed Kong and a toy to keep him occupied and comforted. Good luck! |
| I think this is a great question, especially for those who are getting a second/third puppy after having crate trained their first dog. We are looking into getting another and were very successful with crate training the first dog, although we don't use the crate anymore.
Do you go back to crating the first dog? Or do you keep them seperated until the pupppy gets used to the crate? |
| Ollie is 14 months and has never been crated - when I'm out he roams the kitchen and utility room, which is also where he sleeps. Jack will sleep in his crate in the kitchen/utility and knowing me, I'll ending up sleeping between the two of them for a few nights to keep the peace - we'll just have to see how it goes - I'll keep you posted.
thanks for the replies |
When we got our second dog we put the other one back in her crate for a while, just to keep the peace. Since Ollie was never crated that might cause more issues than it's worth. I might just Keep the new puppy crated in a different part of the house. I will be business as usual for Ollie and the puppy won't have to see Ollie out. If they like having eachothers company in the kitchen even though one will be crated that would probably be ideal. I have a feeling the puppy won't like that though. Good luck  |
| When we got Sky we crated her in the bedroom at night, beside my bed, and Dancer slept in the kitchen. It worked out fine, and after a few weeks when Sky outgrew the small crate she began sleeping in the bigger crate for her in the kitchen. It worked out very nicely.
I do think Dancer was a little jealous at first, but she adapted quickly. |
| We have some crated, some loose at our house. The min pins' crates are stacked (2 of them) and they are nesty-type dogs, so they LOVE their crates. Our rat terrier pup has a crate in the same room, but out of sight from the min pins. All are in the main living/dining room area. Simon the basset sleeps on the couch. It doesn't bother the others to have him out.
(Oh, for info: the minpins were here 1st, then the basset, then the rat terrier) I do basset rescue, and occasionally have temporary fosters at our house for less than a week. If they are house trained, I have them out with Simon. It does bother the other dogs to see the foster loose when they are crated. But they are short term stays - less than a week. If they stayed longer, they would adjust. When we had Bart, they barked at him - he was loose like Simon. They were just getting used to him and not barking  .
Our new pup has already been started with crate training. We will continue with it when he comes home. Our large crate is in our porch/entryway. It was Oliver and Bart's crate too. Very handy for wet sheepies, because the porch has throw rugs over a painted cement floor! We have a gate in the doorway to the rest of the house. It works well to clean up dogs there before they come onto the carpet! |
| Part of the trick with introducing a new dog into the household is keeping things the same as much as posible fro the resident dog. It makes it so much less stressful if the first dog's life still remains predictable.
I would definitley crate any new puppy, not only for sleeping but for safety and house-training. And I would have the pup sleep in the crate in the bedroom for the first bit and also have some naptimes in the "dog" room to help ease the transition downthe road. Personally, though, I like dogs to sleep in the bedroom with the family. I read somewhere that there is a 30% less chance of having behavioral problems if the dog sleeps in the same room as the humans. I can't verify this statistic, but I can see how it would help. |
| We have all the dogs sleep in our bedroom too. The 2 sheepdogs are on the floor & the Norfolk pup is in the crate. The Norfolk is fine with the arrangement, and if he's in that crate without the dogs in the bedroom with him he cries so I think he likes his company on the floor.
The Norfolk won't be sleeping without his crate anytime soon, especially since he's a chewer, but the arrangement works well so why change it. VerveUp |
El Gato wrote: I think this is a great question, especially for those who are getting a second/third puppy after having crate trained their first dog. We are looking into getting another and were very successful with crate training the first dog, although we don't use the crate anymore.
Do you go back to crating the first dog? Or do you keep them seperated until the pupppy gets used to the crate? I was led to believe some time ago that we might be able to see some sort of pictorial proof of this first "dog." What gives? One quick aside if you free feed. Do not leave the crated dog's food out if the other dog is out-- even if you think they won't touch it. I know it seems like common sense but I never thought Lucy would touch the dry food that we left out for Clyde but she did. She would torture him all day by nibbling it right in front of him while he was in the crate. It took us a couple of weeks to notice that the food levels seemed off when we were coming home from work. It turned Clyde into a serious food guarder. He's gotten better but it was very tough when we got Bear to try to feed another dog dry food. Clyde would hear the crunching and go nuts. Now he and Bear just steal from each other so it's even. Especially if you have an older dog, I think the crate is a lifesaver for a dog that doesn't want to be hassled by a puppy all day long. We only used the crate until the dogs were trustworthy and mature enough to not drive Lucy insane. Clyde was done with his at about 7 or 8 months and I only used the crate with Bear for 3 days (he was about 6 months old). Now, Clyde sleeps in the bedroom next to me, Bear sleeps in the bathroom in the hallway (Clyde's former spot before Bear came) and Lucy enjoys her privacy on the couch downstairs. |
| When I brought China, my Aussie Shepherd, home she was 8 weeks old. My OES, Violet, was about 15 mts old at the time. I had never crated Violet and by the time I adopted her, from the rescue, she was 9 months old and Paul Newton had been working with her, so she was pretty well trained. She always slept on a rug on the floor in our bedroom at night. So when I adopted China I decided, for her safety and so that everyone would get a good nights sleep, that she would sleep in a crate in our bedroom next to the bed. She did really well and Violet would come and sleep next to China's crate and made sure her head was always touching China's crate when they slept. It was really cute. I would pull the crate out into the livingroom during the day, so if I needed to leave the house for any reason, I could put China in it. Eventually China spent less and less time in the crate and I retired the crate a long time ago.
Not to go on and on, but I have a cute story regarding both Violet and China. Violet, of course took on the "big sister" role when China was introduced into our family. I used Violet to teach China how to use the "doggy" door. I push China through it once or twice and then Violet took charge. The funny part of the story is you know how adorable the OES's "tigger hop" is? I can watch them run and "tigger hop" all day. I degress.... anyway, of course China was so young she would watch and learned how to be a dog from Violet. So yes, I am sure you have guessed it by now. When China would run, she would run with a "tigger hop" that the OES' have. My friend who breed China brought it to my attention one day. She said, look what has happend to your Aussie, she runs like a OES. lol. She looked so cute running, they both did. Now that China has matured she now runs like an Aussie Shepherd, and is beautiful when she does. Those where the days.....ah.... Thank you for bearing with me while I walked down memory lane. Helen(Violet, China & Pearls Mom) |
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