I thought Kindergarten was for fun???
Tonight: 1) Read his book at least 3 times (he has a book he has to memorize and he's tested on it later this week) 2) Practice coloring in the lines (she gave them a page to color) 3) Practice writing his name (all the words have pages full of blank lines like a manuscript tablet with the word written once on each line) 4) Practice writing L and l 5) Practice writing the word Red 6) Practice writing the number 1 7) Read Hickory Dickory Doc, explain what rhymes are and point out the rhyming words Tuesday: 1) Practice coloring inside the lines. 2) Talk about things that begin with the letter Ll, lemon, ladder, letter, etc... 3) Talk about things that are red, firetrucks, stop signs, etc.. 4) Review Twinkle, Twinkle - point out rhyming words 5) Talk about vowels and constants 6) Read book at least 3 times Wednesday 1) Practing coloring inside the lines 2) Practice writing and spelling the word red 3) Practice writing and spellng the number one 4) Practice wirting capital and lowercase L's 5) Review Little Miss Muffet, and point out rhyming words 6) Read book at least 3 times Thursday 1) Practice coloring inside the lines 2) Review vowels and consonants 3) Practice the Ll sound and things that begin with that letter. 4) Review Mary Mary Quite Contrary and point out rhyming words 5) Practice counting 1-5 6) Read book at least 3 times, test tomorrow Friday 1) Practice coloring inside the lines 2) Review formation of lettter Ll, review spelling color word red, number word one, and writing one and red. 3) Wear something red today for color of the week 4) Show and tell today - bring something that begins with Ll 5) Review Jack Be Nimble, point out rhyming words 6) Test on book today Wow...we never had homework in kindergarten. Whatever happened to making kindergarten fun, having kids learn to enjoy school, and letting them have a childhood? By the time we finish his homework, it's time for dinner, then baths, and then bed. He gets almost no freetime since he's in school from 7:30 until 3 everyday. It doesn't help that he's not enjoying the concept of homework either. He thinks home = fun time. It's been frustrating. |
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| It use to be fun, and it was only for a half day. They might've brought home a few sheets to color, practice writing letters, numbers or their names, but not anything that took long for them to do, and not every day.
I know, it may be stupid, but Uncle Sam wants to raise (train) our kids for us. They can only do that if they're in a controlled enviroment, such as school................. The earlier you start..... I know "young" kids that come home from school and are confrontational with their parents because of the lesson they learned that day. When kids come home from school telling you, the parent, that you're wrong.................about things ( life, life styles, laws, etc.), they're not being taught readin', writin' n arithmatic.  Of course, jmpo.  |
| Gosh I am just exhausted reading all that Jake has to do, boy Kinder has certainly changed from when mine were little. Thank goodness I am through with all that and school too.
Hate to think what is in stall for Jake when he does go to school, I always thought kinder was for socialisation and fun before the real world hits. You have my sympathy there, exhausted mommie in the making. WHOA |
| There was an interesting Oprah series on a couple of weeks ago where she interviewed Bill Gates (who is now on a mission to improve education in this country) and talked about what was wrong with our schools today. Alot had to do with what we expect from our kids and parental involvement. I agree, it's hard when you are an overwhelmed parent to do all those extra things. But more and more studies are showing that now is when you can and will make a difference in the quality of your childs education.
You are at the very start of your son's education, what a great place to be because now is when it matters not when he is in high school and you are trying to figure out what went wrong. The rest of the stuff (clean house, gourmet meals etc) doesn't really matter; coloring in the line and picking out the rhyming words in Hickory Dickory Dock just might be the most improtant thing you do today!!! Good Luck to you and your son!!! |
Tasker's Mom wrote: There was an interesting Oprah series on a couple of weeks ago where she interviewed Bill Gates (who is now on a mission to improve education in this country) and talked about what was wrong with our schools today. Alot had to do with what we expect from our kids and parental involvement. I agree, it's hard when you are an overwhelmed parent to do all those extra things. But more and more studies are showing that now is when you can and will make a difference in the quality of your childs education.
You are at the very start of your son's education, what a great place to be because now is when it matters not when he is in high school and you are trying to figure out what went wrong. The rest of the stuff (clean house, gourmet meals etc) doesn't really matter; coloring in the line and picking out the rhyming words in Hickory Dickory Dock just might be the most improtant thing you do today!!! Good Luck to you and your son!!! I don't mind the parental involvement. I love helping him, but with it being so much, it takes away time for my 3 year old and other things that I need to do. I just got a contigent job offer for my dream job also (meteorology position at the airport - which is what my first degree is in), so I'm more than likely going to be working in a few weeks once I finish the screenings, so on top of college classes (I'm in statistics and business research right now - God help me, lol), helping Jake, daily household chores, preparing meals, PTO/school meetings, etc... that doesn't leave much time for Brandon. That's what I'm most worried about, and he is the one that is attached to me at my hip. I just haven't found that balance yet. I'm sure I'll get there, but I hope it happens fast - lol |
Quote: There was an interesting Oprah series on a couple of weeks ago where she interviewed Bill Gates (who is now on a mission to improve education in this country) and talked about what was wrong with our schools today. Alot had to do with what we expect from our kids and parental involvemen
**raises hand with big grin** I saw that Did you see the school where they teach everything in song or some sort of easy way to memorize it? Everything is in repetition. That would have been awesome!!!
As Lisa said, I too was exhausted ......and surprised how much they are doing AT KINDERGARTEN!! But then again, when we lived in Korea... I was 2 grades above my cousin, and he was doing things more advanced than me. It was embarassing. In a lot of ways I'm all for a tougher curriculum or at least "revised" ...but I do feel bad that my kid won't get the same joys as I did when it came to recess/fun times/playing outside ALL day in the summer, etc. |
| Gail, I know it's easy for me to say because my kids are grown. There is no easy answer. Being a Mom is a tough TOUGH TOUGH job and when you have to work it requires super human abilities. Just know that what you are doing is important.
I thought the Oprah series was great, the young men that started their own schools were amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
JakobandBrandonsmom wrote: 2) Practice coloring in the lines (she gave them a page to color)
I agree...that's not fun at all. As someone in a creative industry, it truly makes me sad that we are all conditioned to "color in the lines" both literally and metaphorically...oh well. |
| That's quite the workload...
Now that my kids are older homework is mostly left to themselves, but for a few years there with 3 kids all 2 years apart I felt like homework was all we did. |
| I asked about that when my kids were small and was told that learning to color in the lines is important to hand eye coordination and really has nothing to do with creativity. They need to learn to control the crayon before they can learn to be creative with it. Makes sense. So it really isn't as bad as it sounds. |
| I guess i agree with that to a certain extent...the artist does have to master his/her medium before being able to fully explore it. even more fundamentally, the artist has to know how to control his/her body in order to explore the medium.
I suppose i'm a skeptic and think it goes much deeper than that. I think there could lots of ways to learn hand eye coordination, etc. But hey, someone must've known what they were doing when they invented coloring books... |
mouthypf wrote: It use to be fun, and it was only for a half day. They might've brought home a few sheets to color, practice writing letters, numbers or their names, but not anything that took long for them to do, and not every day.
I know, it may be stupid, but Uncle Sam wants to raise (train) our kids for us. They can only do that if they're in a controlled enviroment, such as school................. The earlier you start..... I know "young" kids that come home from school and are confrontational with their parents because of the lesson they learned that day. When kids come home from school telling you, the parent, that you're wrong.................about things ( life, life styles, laws, etc.), they're not being taught readin', writin' n arithmatic. Of course, jmpo. When I went to kindergarten, it was for a full day...preschool was the half day. So this isn't just a 'new phenomenon.' If they make school fun and interesting, kids will be able to be kids while there. I'm sure they're not sitting at their desks all day long repeating words over and over and nothing else. As for Uncle Sam training our kids, in many cases, SOMEONE needs to do it. Our country definitely has education issues and at least the government is trying to do something about it, even if they are getting it quite right. And, sometimes I think the kids could be right coming home telling the parents they are wrong, that might be true. A lot of parents these days are pretty ignorant about things...I think a lot of people look at the past (theirs or their kids who are grown up now) with rose colored glasses. Easy to think that all time was spent playing in the grass and eating cookies.JMO Ginny, I think you're right...about the creative part not being affected by the coloring in the lines. Gail, this is a huge adjustment in your life. I think you'll get used to it (and so will Jake) just need to give it a while to make it part of the routine. |
| Ryan went for 1/2 day Kindergarten. He also had homework.
What upsets me is the homework they give him now requires me to basically do it for him. The assignments that he is given are always far beyond his comprehension. I don't see how it benefits him if I am doing it all. |
but Elissa, I bet youre good at coloring within the lines  Seriously, Chris and I had this conversation yesterday....his littlest just came home from her first day of kindergarten, she asked her mom for the ''sandwich that she liked'', changed out of her uniform and i guesss fell immediatedly asleep....such a hard day for only a half day session....keep it up Gail, you'll figure out the timing thing...what about having Brandon color at the table with you guys and practice his letters and numbers....it couldnt hurt... |
| Wow, that is a lot of homework for kindergarten!!
I know they are teaching a lot of things earlier and earlier but, homework for that level should be no more than 20 minutes. |
| Gail,
When you figure out how to be supermom let the rest of us know ok?
Jeez, I don't remember my kids having homework like that when they were little. |
BatonRougeSheepies wrote: Gail,
When you figure out how to be supermom let the rest of us know ok? LOL, that I'm afraid I'll never be. There's not enough hours in a day.  |
| Ohmygosh! That list wears me out!
I think perhaps those fun times are coming ..don't fret. I think the teacher may be trying to see what level the children are at and then base her lesson plans on the results. Don't know for sure but I think that's what she's doing. Hang in there and remember the famous book...Everything I need to know ...I learned in Kindergarden. 
Marianne and the boys |
| I agree, I am sure it's based on routine, and level and ability etc.
Here the kids didn't have homework unless they spent too much time goofing around, and have a time out...then the work got sent home and a parental visit to explain what happened. Happened to Parker once, he missed out on gym class, and the parent helper had to stay back in the classroom with him while he finished the project that the class did before gym time. here we had 1/2 days, they all get writing books, and spend time on one letter, learning words, spelling simple things... coloring/cutting was not an issue until the end of the year, if they didn't see improvement, they incouraged parents to practise at home...they do get better, but Parker wanted to rush it through. They were supposed know ABC's recognition before starting, and how to spell and recognize their own names. It was in the pre-enrollment book. Towards the end of the year, we had a at home reading program, where every night the kids could bring 1-6 books home and they had to read it to us. We were not the teachers, more the encouragment and confidence builders...guiding them and saying the words if they got stuck. The teacher was pretty clear about where they are expected to be, and some were above and some were below. If you wanted to help bring up your child to class level you could do "homework"...and by the time they are ready for grade one, they should have a good grasp of the basics. |
| I wouldn't do it!
Kindergarten homework doesn't have to be structured. There are ways of implimenting rhyming and verbs while doing the dishes, mowing the lawn and going for a bike ride. My first boy got the tough job of going through all the firsts...while Don and I learned how to parent. We wanted him to succeed so bad, and had very high expectations. As a result now, as a 17 yr old, he is very serious and hard on himself. We totally relaxed with number 2, and we learned a lot from our easy-going nanny from Jamaica. She really enjoyed life and showed us how to stop and smell the roses. As a result of her influence our number 2 son is a lot of fun, and is everyone's friend. With all due respect I'd tell the teacher to take a hike...  ...(but not to her face....and I certainly wouldn't let my son know how I felt) |
Bosley's mom wrote: I wouldn't do it!
Kindergarten homework doesn't have to be structured. There are ways of implimenting rhyming and verbs while doing the dishes, mowing the lawn and going for a bike ride. My first boy got the tough job of going through all the firsts...while Don and I learned how to parent. We wanted him to succeed so bad, and had very high expectations. As a result now, as a 17 yr old, he is very serious and hard on himself. We totally relaxed with number 2, and we learned a lot from our easy-going nanny from Jamaica. She really enjoyed life and showed us how to stop and smell the roses. As a result of her influence our number 2 son is a lot of fun, and is everyone's friend. With all due respect I'd tell the teacher to take a hike... ...(but not to her face....and I certainly wouldn't let my son know how I felt)He does have a very hard teacher. He brought home a yellow face yesterday, and I asked him why he got it. He said he asked his teacher a question, and he forgot to raise his hand. Okay...I understand he needs to raise his hand, but this is a child with no experience in daycare and it's only his 5th day of school. Obviously, I don't make him raise his hand before he can talk to me. He's had preschool, but it wasn't that structured and he didn't have to raise his hand. I think he should have gotten a warning instead of ruining his streak of green faces. He also said he had to sit in time out during recess, because of the yellow face. Jake is an awesome kid (I'm not just saying that because I'm his mother - anyone who has ever seen or kept him will say that). He behaves perfectly, sits quietly, hardly even ever talks because of his speech difficulties (he's in speech therapy and even the therapist has problems getting him to talk), and for her to punish him because he did talk to her?? I sent her a note explaning what Jake told me and how difficult it is to get him to talk, but I also told her I was interested in hearing her side of the story in case Jakob didn't understand why he got into trouble. It may not seem like a big deal, but he was crying about it. A week worth of green faces = a toy from their box, an ice cream party, or something else fun - I forget. It is also one step away from a red face with will lead to him going to the principal's office and getting a spanking. Jake already knows all the nursery rhymes. I've always said them to him and Brandon, so I just explained the rhyming to him. I think he kind of understands it, but not well enough to make up rhyming words. I think Jake is going to be hard on himself anyway. He just has that type of personality. He won't do anything unless he perfects it, it's very rare for him to sing a song, dance, play silly with toys, etc... He's too much like me, lol I've always been very serious too. Brandon is the complete opposite. He craves attention, and he does whatever it takes to get it. He's always singing, talks loudly non-stop, dancing around, etc.. He's going to be the one without many green faces at kindergarten because he can't stop talking, lol He's like his daddy and will always be the fun one and a child at heart. Then, he got his lunch number 0666. Now both my mom and MIL are calling me every day to see if I changed it, and they said they are going to keep calling until I do. I don't particularly like the number, but I don't think it's a big enough deal to make a hassle over it. He'll get a new one next year, and he already has this one memorized. Kindergarten is just getting to be one huge headache, and homework is getting to be the easiest part of it! lol |
| A SPANKING?????? OMG. Is that even allowed?
I told my kids from the very beginning that if a teacher even yelled at them they had my permission to let them know that I said they did not have to listen to anyone who yelled at them. Period. Kids have to have the chance to learn what is expected of them, and to practice it over and over and over before they start to get consequences...I would be having a fit and marching right down there to have a little chat. Talk about a good way of turning a young child off of school! Your poor son! Sounds like his teacher needs to take a coarse n Positive Reinforcement. Buy her a book called "Don't Shoot the Dog" by Karen Pryor. It is geared towards dog-training but goes further than that. It explains how to use postive methods in your every day life to get great results in relationships without using punishments. OMG. That is awful. |
Bosley's mom wrote: A SPANKING?????? OMG. Is that even allowed?
Yeah, the school district still has corporal punishments. |
| I was wondering about the spanking too. |
| My thing with the talking is that I'm afraid it's going to hinder him. He's been in speech therapy since he was 2 (that was the earliest our pedi would let him in because they thought he was just a late talker). He hardly says more than 3-4 words at a time, even now at 5. It is SOOOOO hard getting him to talk. While I understand he doesn't need to talk without raising his hand, I also don't think he should be punished to tears like that for talking. We have worked SO hard to actually get him to say any words at all, and I feel like if he gets punished for it, he will turn around and not say anything again. It has been such a struggle with him, and I'd hate to see any amount of progress made diminish because of that. |
barney1 wrote: I was wondering about the spanking too.
It's there. First day of school we had to sign a letter pretty much stating that if he got hurt during a spanking, we would not press charges against the school district. That the school still uses corporal punishment as a preferred method of punishment since suspensions generally have no effect on the student. It also had a note that said if he gets a red face, he goes into the principal's office for a spanking. Yellow face, time-outs and if he gets like 3 in a row, a parent-teacher conference to discuss behavior problems. |
| In regard to the talking thing...does his teacher know and fully understand his speech problems? Does she comprehend how important it is not to disrupt his talking progress? If you have already talked to her and her superior about this...maybe a note from his speech therapist would help?...maybe you just seem like an overprotective mom?
I can also understand the teachers side that she can't treat him different than the other kids, but perhaps there is a better and more encouraging way to "punish" him? At least as far as talking goes. |
Amanda P wrote: In regard to the talking thing...does his teacher know and fully understand his speech problems? Does she comprehend how important it is not to disrupt his talking progress? If you have already talked to her and her superior about this...maybe a note from his speech therapist would help?...maybe you just seem like an overprotective mom?
I can also understand the teachers side that she can't treat him different than the other kids, but perhaps there is a better and more encouraging way to "punish" him? At least as far as talking goes. She knows, it's obvious anyway. We talked about it with her on the first day of school, and his speech therapist has talked with her about him also. His therapy starts again next week (he didn't have it during the summer), so I'll be so glad when it starts up again. Maybe that will help encourage him while teaching him when he needs to be quiet too. I've been trying to work with him at home, but it's not the same as an in-school environment. Oh and he got home around 1 (K-12 lets out at 1 every Wednesday), and he did get in trouble for talking. He was asking his teacher about his homework the previous night. It was group time, so that's why he got into trouble. |
| I would guessssssss that the "red face" isn't really "1 step away" from the yellow face. I can't imagine that they'd give him a red face for talking twice in class, for example.
I would HOPE that it's reserved from more serious infractions. I would further hope that they would let you know there was such a major problem brewing, and allow YOU to administer some remedial actions before such a drastic step was taken. I knew that, even back in my days of school, if a teacher so much as laid a finger on me, it would have been their last day on the job.... and that's the way it should be. In my opinion, of course. |
Gail, the spanking thing would really have me upset.  Did they give you a choice as to whether or not you WANTED to sign the no-lawsuit letter? Wow - that's all I can say.
Poor Jake!  I hope this doesn't shake his confidence. |
| Gail,
My youngest child has special needs issues. Have you tried going to the principal's office and advising him or put it in writing that they do NOT have permission to paddle/spank your child? I know I had to do that several years. I would definitely explain the speech issue to the principal and if you don't seem to be getting anywhere - talk to the school board. I am assuming that this is a public school. If it is a private school, I have no idea how to proceed. I kept my youngest child deliberately in public schools because of all the special help and modifications he needed. In a public school, they have to provide the child with all the assistance needed free of charge. That includes a speech therapist, even so far as to giving him a laptop to take notes on, plus more. This was all thanks to the Americans with Disabilities Act. They couldn't accomodate him in a private school. Good luck, Wynette/batonrougesheepies - at work so I deliberately didn't sign in. |
Ron wrote: I would guessssssss that the "red face" isn't really "1 step away" from the yellow face. I can't imagine that they'd give him a red face for talking twice in class, for example.
I would HOPE that it's reserved from more serious infractions. I would further hope that they would let you know there was such a major problem brewing, and allow YOU to administer some remedial actions before such a drastic step was taken. I knew that, even back in my days of school, if a teacher so much as laid a finger on me, it would have been their last day on the job.... and that's the way it should be. In my opinion, of course. I hope so. We were back to a green face today, so he did better today. I think now that he's gotten into trouble, he knows to raise his hand. He raised his hand for me (to ask if he could go to the bathroom) a few mins ago when I was reading his book of the week to him and Brandon. *sigh* All of this has to be so confusing to him. I feel like I did him a disservice by staying home with him and not sending him to daycare. |
| Wow an absolutely crazy school district! Is it public or private?
We are not allowed to hit our kids, but the school can 
Oh no way would I allow that! I would look for a different school. |
| I'm absolutely shocked that a school board has a policy to use corporal punishment. Honestly shocked. I realize that you probably have little other options since private school is probably very expensive... but look around and see what your options are. Here we have at least a few options that are publicly funded.
The fact that you had to sign a letter stating that you wouldn't sue the school if your child was injured when punished by the principal is very scary. Do you know a good lawyer? That doesn't seem like it could possibly be constitutional. Do you have a parents group at the school you could talk with about your concerns? Here in Ontario (likely all of Canada), I know that if any child tells their teacher at school that their parent spanked them - children's aid (aka a social worker) is immediately called. This happened when a child I used to babysit told her teacher that her dad spanked her. Unbelievable! |
| One of my grandson's has been a late bloomer on talking due to health reasons. There was no reason for him not to talk other than he had 2 brothers and others that would talk for him, so he pretty much let them.
My husband and I bought him one of the toy piano's that you can play or hit buttons and it plays itself. The feature we liked about it for him was that it also came with a microphone that you could sing through, and also record your own singing and music. When we gave it to him on Christmas he was like a new kid! You couldn't get him to shut up then! He loved it!
Although I think in some cases paddling is ok, I don't accept it at all for kids in Kindergarten! Your tales make me wonder now if my nephew was as bad (mean, disruptive) in school and they said he was. He was actually thrown out of school! He was only in the FIRST grade!!!
The poor kid was taken to the doctor and put on meds for ADS, which turned him into a little zombie! He was just a boy being a boy! He's in high school now. If teachers can't handle K and 1st graders, they shouldn't even be teaching! |
| Ontario tends to be very liberal/progressive... did you know that for the last 10 years it has been legal in Ontario for women to go topless in public places? At times I think it's taken too far though... like contacting a social worker anytime they hear a child has been spanked... but on the other hand, that policy likely prevented future abuse in many cases.
I think there's a happy median somewhere between the 2 extreme wings. I am however, disturbed to hear how hard some school administrations are on such young children. What could a grade 1 child possibly have done that was so bad as to get them kicked out of school? It just doesn't make sense. |
Sheepie Heaven wrote: ....What could a grade 1 child possibly have done that was so bad as to get them kicked out of school?...
Got in a fight.  Prior to that he was talkative - disruptive in class.
But, after being diagnosed by the teacher as possibly having ADS, sent to the doctor, and given drugs, he was allowed to come back. It just amazes me that a teacher can't control a talkative 7 year old. I guess it shouldn't though, since I hear so many parents say they "just can't" control their 2 year old. mouthypf |
| Yeah, private school is out of the question. It's a 45 minute trip, and we only have one vehicle. Jason works swing shifts, so we never know what shift he will be working. No buses for private schools, so we're stuck. At his school now, it's like 1/8 mile away (pretty much across the street), so I walk him to and from school everyday. If it were possible though, I'd put him in our church's school. It's just not feasible right now, and in all honesty, Caledonia is THE school in our district. The town has grown excessively the past couple of years, because of the school. That's why we bought our house here. To put it this way - we moved here in 2001. The population was just over 1000. Jake's kindergarten class alone has 160 students this year for a town that used to be that small 5 years ago. It has grown A LOT and still growing. They had to build a new expansion just for K-1 this past summer. The highest schools can get in the state is Level 5 - which is very hard to keep. Caledonia is a level 4. Most schools in this area are in the 2-3 range, so it's hard to compete with that when it's their future at stake.
The form was for paddlings, playing on the playground, competing in sports, riding the bus, etc.. We had to sign it - it was a form used for their assurance on pretty much anything kids could possibly get injured from. |
Anonymous wrote: Sheepie Heaven wrote: ....What could a grade 1 child possibly have done that was so bad as to get them kicked out of school?... Got in a fight. Prior to that he was talkative - disruptive in class.But, after being diagnosed by the teacher as possibly having ADS, sent to the doctor, and given drugs, he was allowed to come back. It just amazes me that a teacher can't control a talkative 7 year old. I guess it shouldn't though, since I hear so many parents say they "just can't" control their 2 year old. mouthypfI wouldn't be surprised if Brandon has ADD or ADHD - Jason has it. Jakob, no...he's too calm without the meds. Medication would be my absolute last resort though. I don't like taking meds myself (I didn't even take pain meds after any of my c-secs), much less giving them to my children unless they're really sick. I think the body becomes too dependant on it, and it seems to me that I get better quicker when I let nature take it's course and heal me. My mom says I'm just too "granola" though, who knows? lol |
| ADD and ADHD tend to be very over-diagnosed these days, and doctors seem to be very quick these days to drug children. I've heard that it's always good to get a second opinion on an ADD or ADHD diagnosis. Sometimes they're right and drug treatments work well, other times the issue is simply that the child isn't stimulated enough - they may be really smart and school just isn't challenging/stimulating enough for them. Food for thought I guess.
I agree that the body can become too dependent on meds and also meds can become less effective from overuse. Don't worry, you're not too granola, JMPO. |
| That is simply appauling that they would spank kids in school. When I was in school, they had the strap...a leather belt you'd et across your hand if it was serious enough...I think they only ever used it once or twice...and it was the kids choice to call the parents and be expelled or take the strap. The kid would rather take the strap then have parents on their case.
Then they did away with it completely, that was more than 20 yrs ago. Now they give warnings, parent/teacher meetings and expelling. I'm all for stickers to reward good behaviour, but if it makes a child feel bad about themselves to the point they shut down completely I'd say something is not working. Esp when had child already has issues with speaking and communicating...he cannot be expected to be treated as equally as a child with no issues. However if it works, and they don;t actually get red faces...I would like to think the school is better than that...and allow kids to make up good points throughout the day to get back to green...then they are learning how good/bad behaviour works for their benefit. I hope it is a good school, and the teacher does care about the kids as a whole group, but still acknowledges when one of her little pupils needs some extra encouragement...and if he talks out of line then a gentle reminder that we don't talk right now is all, then if they don't listen, another reminder about consequences, and finally if it still doesn't work then a sticker...but for a 4/5 yr old this is something that should be handled carefully and with each child's personality in mind. Be a parent volunteer, and spend the day at school as often as you can and observe what really happens in the class. Hearing about this school makes me very thankfull for what we do have. We also picked our neighbourhood because of the school. It was new when we moved in, and last year they ranked #2 in Edmonton, and in top 10 (# eight) for the entire province. |
JakobandBrandonsmom wrote: .......Medication would be my absolute last resort though.....
I didn't mean to imply that about your son, if it sounded that way. Just that in my nephews case it was the "teacher" playing doctor "telling" them that their son "had" ADS. Then, when the doctor was told how he acted, of course he agreed with the teacher, and put him on medication.
I too, feel that doctors are doping up our kids for no reason. Its like someone started taking the old saying, "Kids should be seen and not heard" to heart, and found a way to make it happen. They say all those drugs can cause kids to become suicidal, maybe this medication has something to do with the violence in schools??? |
mouthypf wrote: JakobandBrandonsmom wrote: .......Medication would be my absolute last resort though..... I didn't mean to imply that about your son, if it sounded that way. Just that in my nephews case it was the "teacher" playing doctor "telling" them that their son "had" ADS. Then, when the doctor was told how he acted, of course he agreed with the teacher, and put him on medication.I too, feel that doctors are doping up our kids for no reason. Its like someone started taking the old saying, "Kids should be seen and not heard" to heart, and found a way to make it happen. They say all those drugs can cause kids to become suicidal, maybe this medication has something to do with the violence in schools??? Oh, I knew you weren't implying that. I was just saying my approach in case it ever happens, like I'm expecting with Brandon. He is a hyper active child, but it's just his personality. He's been active since he was an infant - hardly slept, started crawling everywhere at 4 months, sitting by himself at 3 months, walked on furniture/push toys at 5.5 months, starting running at 9.5/10 months. He started turning onto his side at 1 week - it started with a nurse trying to take blood from his foot when he was in the hospital, and once he figured it out, he was turning on his side all the time after that (which was a pain because it made the apnea monitors go off all the time and they had to restrain him in the NICU because he was making his breathing tube come out). He was climbing out of his crib at 11 months, so his personality is definitely a little more on the active side. All of that and he was about 5 weeks premature too. Even now, he plays hard and goes non-stop until bedtime. It's just him, and I will try my best to refuse to medicate him just for having an active personality. I have two years until he starts kindergarten, and I'm already preparing for battles unless something changes. |
| Speaking of homework...lol
Not only does Jake have it, but I do too. I've been up ALL night working on ONE statistics problem, and I still think it's wrong. *sigh* Just 6 1/2 more weeks of this class.... lol |
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