Tipping my hairdresser who now works at home?
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| Is she charging the same amount?
If she is charging less...then I would definitely tip. While she doesn't have to split it with the salon, I assume she has some operating costs she didn't have before. I would probably still tip...depending on what she charges...you could tip a little less. |
| Hmmm.... that's a tough one. I went to a hairdresser who worked out of her home for awhile, but she was a friend so she didn't even have a price list, I just gave her whatever I felt like (she didn't seem to care) - usually $50 for highlights (which is VERY cheap) and $30 for a haircut.
I would say that in general you wouldn't normally tip the owner of the salon because it isn't the owner who is providing you with a service, it is the person who actually doing your hair. Since tipping is generally something you do to show your appreciation for good service, you should still tip the hairdresser who is working in her home (just my opinion of course). Then again if her prices are more than they were when she was working at the salon..... Of course, tipping or not (and how much) is a personal choice and I find opinions differ greatly on this subject. In the end it's your decision. |
Sheepie Heaven wrote: I would say that in general you wouldn't normally tip the owner of the salon because it isn't the owner who is providing you with a service, it is the person who actually doing your hair.
My understanding is that the protocol re not tipping an owner is for when the owner is the one doing your hair. The question isn't whether to tip the owner in addition to the stylist but whether to tip the stylist when that stylist is an owner. My hairdresser is a 50-50 partner in his salon and I asked him at the outset what the deal was re tipping owners and he said it was customary not to tip. You tip the staff to make up for the fact that the salon owner takes a cut. I see that some people do tip him but I guess I figure if he wants more money, he can just raise the price. Instead, I am a bit more generous with the woman who washes my hair. With your hairdresser, I would just ask her to set a price that she thinks is fair based on her expenses, time, and expertise with the understanding that it is a flat fee without an additional tip. You can judge based on the price whether it is worthwhile to keep going to her or whether to try someone new. That way, you avoid any awkward feelings about whether she was expecting a tip in addition to her fee. |
| I would still definitely tip. |
| Hmmmmm,
I tip the dog groomer who owns her own business, but I do it once at the end of the year. My Dad (at my suggestion) tips the lady who cleans his home by giving her an extra payment, also near the end of the year. However, I have never tipped landscapers or carpenters or cother contractors who own their own business; if they want more, bid it higher. I do tip delivery folk, and others who work for people and are doing work on my car, or my motorhome...IF I feel they've done good work. Interesting question! |
| I would still tip...
The question someone raised earlier int he thread- does she still charge the same? - is very valid. IF she still charges the same, I would maybe reduce the tip a bit. BUT, I have difficult hair, and when I find someone I like, I always tip well to ensure a good appointment the next time around. Good luck! |
| This is interesting!
Thanks Valerie for clarifying the custom to not tip the owner. I assumed the owner wasn't the one doing the hair.... mainly because I only ever go to First Choice haircutters or Supercuts (embarrasing, I know). A few very good points have been raised re: how much she is charging you now that she's left the salon(?). Ron - good point about how we tip for certain services but don't tip for others. In a lot of cases where tipping is customary, the person you are tipping is actually making less than minimum wage, i.e. bartenders and waitresses make less than minimum wage - not a rumour, actually true (I've been there!). This doesn't mean that we tip because they're not making a high enough wage, but this does seem to be the difference between things we (as a society) generally tip for and generally don't. Interesting when you actually think about who we tip, who we don't and why. |
| I've had the same hairdresser for 20+ years, she owns her shop. I never tip her but at Christmas I always give her a nice gift.
When I took the dogs to a groomer that had her own business I did not tip her. When I changed to Petsmart where they are paid hourly I do tip. I don't tip the mailman (I've herad some do), he makes more money than I DO!!!!!!! |
Tasker's Mom: that made me laugh out loud. 
I've never taken a dog to be professionally groomed (previous non-OES dog didn't need it). What do you typically tip a groomer? Do you base it on a percentage of the bill (like at a restaurant)? Thanks! |
I always overtip everyone and that is probably why we're broke most of the time.  I also have tipped contractors too, usually giving them some money & say it's for lunch or something like that. Also have given a general contractor a couple of gift certificates to his favorite restaurant when he was done.
In my profession, graphic designer, I've had a few of my main clients really give me great gifts in addition to paying the invoice. One gave my husband & I a weekend in NYC at the W Hotel & front row tix to see the musical "Rent". I guess it really all depends on what you can give & how much you appreciate the service. Paula, I don't think your hair person would mind getting a tip -- she always could refuse... |
Sheepie Heaven wrote: I've never taken a dog to be professionally groomed (previous non-OES dog didn't need it). What do you typically tip a groomer? Do you base it on a percentage of the bill (like at a restaurant)?
Thanks! I tip the groomer 15% (rounded to the closest whole dollar). I think tipping can get out of control. It was originally intended to supplement the salary of "low wage" workers, waitress' for example have a much lower minimum wage than the rest of the population and depend on tips as part of their income. I personally don't think a tip is necessary when someone is already being well paid for a service. A "gift" to show your appreciation for a job well done is a different thing. I know that many of my patients will bring me a small gifts around the holidays or when they complete the program, usually flowers or hand lotion or something like that. I have been offerred money but always refuse. If someone gets insistent I tell them I could lose my job (and I could) and suggest they buy a bag of birdseed for the feeder instead. I remember once when I was a graduate nurse (a million years ago), I took care of this adorable little man for weeks. When it was time for him to be discharged he gave me a card. I didn't open it til he left and to my amazement I found a check for $10,000 and a note saying he wanted to pay off my school loans. It was such a sweet thing to do but of course I could not accept. I gave it to my manager who mailed it back to him with a letter telling him he could make a donation to the hospital but not to an individual. |
Tasker's Mom wrote: I think tipping can get out of control. It was originally intended to supplement the salary of "low wage" workers, waitress' for example have a much lower minimum wage than the rest of the population and depend on tips as part of their income.
I'm confused about this, though. How can a waitress have a lower minimum wage that the rest of the population? Isn't there a set minimum wage? |
| There actually is a lower "minimum wage" for people in some service jobs.
I worked as a bartender for awhile and made $1 less than minimum wage per hour, which is perfectly normal for bartenders and waiters. I'm sure there's a name for that "other minimum wage" and it is probably regulated, but I made about $6 CAD an hour when minumum wage was $7.10.... and yes I'm sure this was legal incase you're thinking "how can this be legal"? I'm sure it varies by province/state too. barney1 wrote: Tasker's Mom wrote: I think tipping can get out of control. It was originally intended to supplement the salary of "low wage" workers, waitress' for example have a much lower minimum wage than the rest of the population and depend on tips as part of their income. I'm confused about this, though. How can a waitress have a lower minimum wage that the rest of the population? Isn't there a set minimum wage? |
| Acutally, there's a nice little chart here from the Ontario government if you're curious.... I guess I must've been making $6.50.... it sure didn't seem like much at the time.
http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/ ... _wage.html |
| I just looked it up and I guess since California (and some other states) pays its tip workers the same as others for minimum wage that explains why I never knew about this (and I worked in food service in high school!). |
| I agree about wanting to pay the hairdresser an amount that makes her happy for the service she is providing but since she is the owner, she can tell you what that amount is by setting her price accordingly. Of course, if you want to pay more than she charges, I am sure she would accept it. I would talk to her directly about it. One awkward conversation can avoid months or years of uncertainty. |
barney1 wrote: I just looked it up and I guess since California (and some other states) pays its tip workers the same as others for minimum wage that explains why I never knew about this (and I worked in food service in high school!).
Interesting to know! Thanks, barney1. It probably varies by province/state too. I like the idea of having the awkward conversation and getting it out in the open - depending on your comfort level with your hairdresser, I guess. |
| If I like the job they do, I tip regardless. To me, tipping is just more of a show for appreciation for a job well done than anything else.
When I was a pet groomer, I almost always got tips from our regular customers and then gifts at Christmas. It wasn't expected but it was nice of them to do. I also house and pet sitted for many couples, because they knew I'd take care of their babies, and they always left the payment check and then a nice gift as a thank you for using my weekend to sit for them. |
Quote: If I like the job they do, I tip regardless. To me, tipping is just more of a show for appreciation for a job well done than anything else.
That's how I feel. I'd feel terrible and uncomfortable only paying 'what is asked.' |
| I flat out asked her if I was supposed to tip. Her reponse was "if you feel like it." Not really helpful. My bill was $49 and I gave her a $7 tip. I guess I'll still tip her but not as much as when she was at the salon. I used to give her 20% now maybe I'll give 12-15%. |
Paula O. wrote: I flat out asked her if I was supposed to tip. Her reponse was "if you feel like it." Not really helpful.
Actually, that was helpful. I take that to mean Yes. My hairdresser told me flat out no since he is an owner so yours is clearly viewing it as something you would do "if you feel like it" to indicate happiness with her service. I think that is annoying when a person gets to set their own rates, but that's just me. If you like her service, sounds like you need to tip.  |
| I am a husband of a hairdresser, who worked at home during pregancy for awhile and find it funny how the fact that "she works at home" somehow changes the way you value the service. If she was in a salon, and the bill was $20 and you tipped $5 that was ok since you liked the service.. Right? BUT, now that she is at home if she charges the same thing you think the service is worth $5 less? Strange thinking, because I can tell you that when they do it at home it is ALOT more work. The job isn't over just because you walk out the door... they have to sweep up, clean tools, if it's color then ALL the supplies have to be cleaned up and made ready for the next person. Typically my wife would put in an extra 1/2 hour getting ready and cleaning up. This is time she didn't have to put in at the salon as they have "staffers" that help with that.
In addition, to anyone getting color or highlights, those supplies are expensive, so realize that even though they may not be splitting the commission with a salon, they now have the cost of the supplies and when you figure everything in, their "take" is about what they made at the salon... but they gave you better "personal attention" by inviting you into their home. My thought is if you were "ok" with the service plus tip in the salon, then you should be "ok" with it at their house. |
| I would have to agree with most of the comments and say that I would probably not tip but purchase her a gift of some sort around the end of the year. And I wanted to throw in that I worked as a server for 10 years and I made $2.13/hr at every place I worked. And I just found out through my niece who recently got a job working at Sonic that many of them are now paying their carhops between $2.13 and $3.15 per hour. That usually means that you get no check at all because the taxes you pay on your tips are taken out of your check before you ever see it. |
| I used to be a hair dresser, Dan1 is so right! Dan1 wrote: when they do it at home it is ALOT more work. The job isn't over just because you walk out the door... they have to sweep up, clean tools, if it's color then ALL the supplies have to be cleaned up and made ready for the next person. Even if you were doing the cleaning at the salon yourself, it was set up for ease of use. At home you have to get creative. If you like the work she does, tip her. If you don't: speak up and have it corrected, then tip her.. She's working very hard. If you still don't like it, get a different hairdresser. (It was the hardest job I ever had. Most people are a pain in the butt, just terrible. And its REALLY hard on your body. Now I bill medical insurance and its a piece of cake in comparison.) |
Joahaeyo wrote: Quote: If I like the job they do, I tip regardless. To me, tipping is just more of a show for appreciation for a job well done than anything else. That's how I feel. I'd feel terrible and uncomfortable only paying 'what is asked.' I'm in this camp too. My stylist is a third owner in the very busy shop, and I always tip. At Christmas, I gift as well. |
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