mini sheepdog?

Question: I heard there is a min OES breed. I talked to the person who owned one before. However, I can't find any information on it. Is there a different name?

How cute is that, a mini OES brother for my regular OES?
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Hmmm, we've chatted about this before on the forum fairly recently, though I don't remember specifically when.

I *think* people thought it was either a Shih-tzu or a Havanese? I'm not sure. I'll see if I can find the posts.
Hi,

The dogs you mean are called Coton De Tuler:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/cotondetulear.htm


http://www.coton-de-tulear-dogs.org/

Marianne and the boys
Yeah, That's it!
LOL it shows that I haven't read posts on the forum for a while. I wonder why he said it's mini OES? My sister even told me she saw one on the dog show.

Thanks :)
Phlufie's mom wrote:
I haven't read posts on the forum for a while.
8O GASP! 8O

Miss a little, miss a lot.

The "other" thread. http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=8398
The Cotons do look a lot like a mini oes, they are so cute :)
It's wasn't a PONs?
Those dogs are so cute... they do look like little sheepdogs, pretty similar....
Cotons are adorable. Here's the info on PONs. Note the description, LOL.


Description: The Polish Owczarek Nizinny is a medium-size, strong, muscular, shaggy dog with a long coat that covers its eyes and body. They may be born without a tail or their tail is docked at birth. Their willingness to please and devotion to their family make them great companions while at the same time a superb watchdog always on the alert for strangers. A PON's amusing ways and floppy bodies make them highly lovable. They excel at most any task they choose to undertake and are highly adaptable and suitable to almost any lifestyle. However, the breed has been known to get into mischief if left in the house alone too long.


hmmm, that sounds like fun :lol:
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The Cotons are often called "mini sheepdogs", I don't see it myself but they are cute. I think they look more like a large maltese.
I think both the cotons and the pons have some similiarity to the OES's, what is the difference between them all other then size? Are they all herding dogs? I see now why people ask me what type dog Sasha is... I never realized there was other dogs that looked similiar.. sometimes I just say sheepdog, guess I better start saying Old English Sheepdog.
They're cute, but I'm with Ginny - they look like bigger maltese to me. :)
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what is the difference between them all other then size?


IMO, they don't have a lot in common outside of white puffy hair. I've researched them a lot and when I first came to this site... it was one of the breeds we had wanted/gone and visited at many shows.

They are clown-like, but other than that... they have more in common with other similar small breeds (havanese, maltese).
here is a "mini sheepie" on petfinder in Canada.

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/dis ... id=6716580
I'm not sure there is any sheepdog in that mini, just a mix of very cute littler dogs. poodle, beardie, terrier or smaller guys. Hmmm, I could have fun with this little one. Good thing I'm far away!
Dudster wrote:
here is a "mini sheepie" on petfinder in Canada.

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/dis ... id=6716580


What a cutie-pie! I wonder if he is non-shedding?

It was through this rescue organisation that I heard about Bosley at the SPCA. They helped spring him and transported him 6 hours to me. I am forver grateful to them. ..... :) :) :)
I visit Teddy's site on a regular basis....they always seem to have big breed dogs.
The mini sheepie is definately a PON or Polish Lowland Sheepdog. There is one that used the same vet us us and it's always funny to see him. Looks Identical to an OES only compact. Acts like one to. Woo-Roo-Roo and everything.
Dudster wrote:
here is a "mini sheepie" on petfinder in Canada.

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/dis ... id=6716580


The two photos they show look like two different dogs... weird.
^^^

i thought the same thing.
Hi,

Here's another rescue that needs a home.

http://www.coton.ca/club/rescue.htm

Marianne and the boys
Our Polish lowland sheepdog was lost (although,we believe she was taken). I put up over 100 professional signs with her
picture on it. To Keep the poster simple, I put "Lost mini sheep dog" on the sign. Although I had hundreds of calls
and leads she was never returned to us.

The PON/Polish sheepdog is a small non shedding breed.
You can find lots of information on the web. We found ours from a very nice breeder in Oklahoma. Stclairpons

We miss our sweet baby girl and would very much recommend the breed.
Well, we once had a mini OES that we got in Princeton, NJ and she was a great dog. We had her 14 years and have not been able to replace her. If she was not a mini OES than she was a mix that really had OES markings. We now live in Texas. I tried to contact the kennel in NJ but apparently no longer in business.
Guest wrote:
Well, we once had a mini OES that we got in Princeton, NJ and she was a great dog. We had her 14 years and have not been able to replace her. If she was not a mini OES than she was a mix that really had OES markings. We now live in Texas. I tried to contact the kennel in NJ but apparently no longer in business.


No such thing as a mini-OES. Lots of mixes of all kinds in rescue/shelters though, including some that have OES-like markings and some times even coat.

Try http://www.petfinder.com and search on OES. The majority of dogs up there at any given time appear to be mixes. If you're serious about a "mini" sized dog relative to the (OES) breed, you'll need to go with an adult, though, to guarantee ultimate size. Lots of cuties to pick from though! Good luck!

Kristine
I have Miss Ellie which I consider a mini Sheepdog, all 50 lbs of her. She was the runt in a very large litter. I haven't seen many pure bred Sheepies smaller than her.
Bearded collies look very similar to Old English Sheepdogs (the two breeds are often confused for one another), but are much smaller. Beardies are usually 40-60lbs, while OES are typically 80-100lbs.
vetgirl wrote:
Bearded collies look very similar to Old English Sheepdogs (the two breeds are often confused for one another), but are much smaller. Beardies are usually 40-60lbs, while OES are typically 80-100lbs.


Vetgirl - - FYI - OES can be much smaller. Especially females.

My 2 males:


Ch Masquerade Alice Acres Madness CD RAE2 AXP AJP OFP CA, UKCWPCH, TDI -DSR, OESCA Versatility Silver aka Chewie (male) is 74#. My daughter has his sister and she is around 55 pounds.


Ch Masquerade Madness Monnraker PT CA CGC aka Bond is 80#. His mom is about 60-something.

There are lots of big and tall OES out there, but many of them are from mills and BYB's, who seem to think a giant OES is what the public wants.
I think people assume that they weigh more because when you feel them they are sturdy dogs and on top of it they have all that hair. Lily is around 65lbs and when she is in coat people often ask if she weighs 100lbs.
Right, it is the hair that makes them seem massive. Granted their bones can be pretty stout, but generally the breed is lighter since it is harder for a big dog move around quickly.

As I mentioned MO was 55 lbs, agile, speedy and extremely loveable. She was a great dog. As much as I like big bruisers, for the breed, more refined is better. Fluff the hair to make them appear bigger, but know underneath there is an athlete who needs to be trim.
erm that is small compared to my lump (currently mucho collapso on my feet!)
I still have tubbo Kensie at 95 lbs/43 KG. Yeah, 52 kg is a bruiser! I've had Great Pyr males who weighed about that much. On the positive, snuggling a big dog in winter helps with the chills.
Maisie is an AKC OES. She only weighs 40 pounds but is tall and lithe she wouldn’t eat as a puppy and we kept going to the vet worrying but she is active. Fast and the best pet ever. And a more convenient size! She is 8 years old now and th perfect pet
Ron1@applied-design.com wrote:
Maisie is an AKC OES. She only weighs 40 pounds but is tall and lithe she wouldn’t eat as a puppy and we kept going to the vet worrying but she is active. Fast and the best pet ever. And a more convenient size! She is 8 years old now and th perfect pet


Maisie is a super cute name for a sheepie girl. I may steal that for a future puppy! :wink:
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