where do puppies from puppy mills go?

HI,
Please don`t think this is rude of me.....but I am just wondering just that "where do puppies from puppy mills go?"......I often hear you guys talk about getting a pup from a reputable breeder with credentials and papers and all....I am just wondering about it.
Do any of you know what happen to the ones left at the mills because they come from where they do?
Please I don`t want to sound rude, I know you guys have the best interest in the pup you get and it will be greatly loved and in most cases dearly wanted and expected.
probably it`s because of all the congenital desises or failures that these pups have due to the fact of the way they were born, and that does carry (in most cases) big vet bills that are not cheap.....
my heart does go out for all those puppies deserving a loving home but probably wont get it because of where they come from.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
thanks, Vero.
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Hi Vero,

I can only tell you what I know -- other members can probably give you more info and say it more eloquently as well ! :)

It's for the love of the breed that people want to put the puppy millers out of business. If people only buy from reputable breeders -- eventually the millers will have no way of making their money. They will first lower their prices to keep up with the competition -- eventually the sale of puppies as livestock will no longer be lucrative and they will have to find other avenues for making money.

Stopping puppy mills will not happen for a long time as Jill and Joe Public are usually not aware of mills and will continue to purchase puppies through them until there is more public knowledge of what these puppies go through.
Side note: Many puppies are impulse buys and it wouldn't matter to some people as to where the puppy came from.

One can obtain registered dogs from mills. Most mill pups are AKC reg., and if the miller has their registration rights taken away, they can register through other sources. However, most millers don't take the time and money (about $40-50) to have their adults OFA certified.

Most mills sell all of their pups to unknowing buyers through the newspaper, Internet, pet shops, etc.

If they are not all sold through those avenues, the miller will sell the remaining pups to brokers, auctions, etc.

I am a bleeding heart -- I don't know if I could walk into a mill without a puppy ... :(
You're not being rude by asking your question! Puppy mill dogs are sold everywhere - over the internet to unsuspecting families, to Petstores, Commercial Breeders, "Kennels" that advertise in the newspapers (often times people think that these dogs were bred on site when in fact they are purchased through auctions, brokers, etc.).

I agree, you want to consider what happens to these dogs when they aren't purchased - it's horrible! However, if we stop buying puppies from the places mentioned above - they will be less apt to continue breeding those breeds! Supply and Demand! If they aren't being sold - they won't be bred! The other issue to consider is the conditions the dog's that are being bred to produce these puppies are living in - they don't have the luxury of being sold to a family and living the life of a dog! They are most often living in deplorable conditions - being bred at every possible chance - and when they are done with them - they are thrown out like trash!

Also - because these places don't care where these puppies go (they aren't careful in selecting the homes) - alot of these puppies are mis-treated and not cared for properly - often ending up tied out in the backyard or dumped at a shelter (or if they are lucky put in Rescue). That's why there are so many questions when you go through a reputable breeder (as someone said - it's like adopting a child - or sometimes more difficult) - these breeders are responsible for these puppies for their entire lives and want to ensure they are going to a home that they will be well cared for and become a part of that family forever!

Health problems are rampant in these mill dogs - many problems that these well meaning families aren't prepared to deal with! We had a member of the OES List recently lose their very young OES due to health problems - which were a direct result of poor breeding! Families that have had to make very difficult decisions - often resulting in having to euthanize very young dogs because of problems resulting from poor breeding (including aggression). It's heartbreaking!

Sorry for the Soap Box Speech! I'm very passionate about this - I've seen so much - it's hard to sit back and not take a stand against these mills!

I think no less of someone who buys from one of these places - just as long as they know what they are getting into from the start and are prepared to provide this puppy with everything they need to live a happy life!

Thanks for listening to me rambling! :)
Kristen
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