We used the crate method to potty train and he is 95% house trained. He no longer chews our hands with teething. He is just about getting out of that really hard puppy stage. We have little children whom he plays well with. He has never spent a night outside and has never been chained up or neglected. I am always home or he goes with us. I dont want to sell him as I may not find good home for him and I assume you all do research before placement.Hes perfectly healthy and friendly. Hes abuot 10 months old and still a puppy. He is playful but I wouldnt say highstrung or abnormal. He LOVES attention and affection which is typical of this breed. He only barks when hes got a reason like when we take him somewhere and get out of the car without him he will bark. Doesnt bark throuout the night or all day. Hes not a problem barker. Only when he wants something.If we put him outside our room and shut the door he will bark and scratch on door but will eventually quit if we dont anwser. He is playful and very affectionate. We have allowed him on our bed. He loves to cuddle with us and will wedge himself under our arms if we dont pet him quick enough.Will run the entire length of our yard (one acre)and is very strong and fast. He is extremely sweet and affectionate. Loves children and gets along well with other dogs.Hes very smart and will (usually) drop something when told *DROP IT*. My 4 year old can almost lay on him and he will tolerate it. He has never bit in violence.(only when teething he used to gnaw on our hands) He has never ran away or dug under a fence. He has never jumped a fence.He is (almost) totally house and car broken. His last accident was months ago and we leave him inside for several hours on Sun. while we go to church. He is a high maintenence breed.. He needs much love and affection. He needs a good fenced yard. He is so big that when he comes for affection he will hurt you if you arent bracing yourself. He jumps up on us still. (needs obedience class) and pulls us on a leash. He has almost quit chewing on our hands but will still find a good plastic object to chew on....like my 4 year olds sippy cup lid. I have 3 small childrena dn another small dog. I guess this dogs biggest problem is the typical OES stuff like he jumps up on you and his bark can be startling if not expecting it. I do have his papers and he is not neutered. please contact me through email if you know of a good home in Texas.We would ask that he be be primarily indoor and that the new owners dont leave him alone for more than a few hours at a time. We would like to find a home with a good fenced yard and prefereblly someone who has had an OES before. Like I found a man that sounded really good until I found out he was single and worked 10 hour days. ctbhh@hotmail.com |
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wish i were closer, i would love him. i am always home...
(not sure if that is a good thing or not but i'm always here...lol) hope he finds a good home what is his name? I love hearing names!! |
Hi,
You are right to be picky about what type of home your boy goes to and you're in luck as there's a wonderful OES rescue in Texas. They screen the homes really well before they do placement of any of the dogs to the right family. I really encourage you to contact them as sadly sometimes the most well intentioned people are not OES savy and although they sound good may not be the best placement for your boy. Don't want to frighten you but at the moment most of us on this forum as saddened as a 11 month old pup was sadly put down as a result of being placed with the wrong family that didn't realize that an OES was not the right match. There are also some awful people out there that will say anything to you and sound "perfect" and may view your boy as a object to sell or use to breed as he's not neutered. Again, don't want to scare you but the Rescues have the resources in place to check out potential adopters and do home checks. Your boy would be safe with them. http://www.texasoesrescue.com/ Good luck and please keep in touch and let us know how we can help you in any way. Marianne and the boys |
I assumed OES rescue groups would be an excellent choice for my dog as I thought they would thouroughly creen applicants and I also assumed they would have alot of people who REALLY want an OES. But I did email them and have not heard back from either of the 2 Texas groups.
Thanks for your help and concern! I really do appreciate it! |
I just looked on Petfinder.com which is one place that the Texas Rescue group post their animals to be adopted and it looks like they currently have 7 that need homes!!! Wow I think that is unusually high. Does anyone know if that is typical and wether or not they still may be interested in find him a home? |
That is not a high number. There are always dogs that need homes and rescue is the BEST place for them to go to be placed with the right owner. |
Hi,
I'm so glad you came back and asked for advice and I'm sure many members here will also pipe up with suggestions. Keeping track of OES rescues for aprox three years it does seem an usually high number in Texas rescue. I'm not sure the reason why that is. Please don't give up! One thing that concerns me is you probably had your pup since it was little and it grew up with your children. In a new home where your boy has not established his heirachy in a new family pack..a child's hugs or falling on top of him may led to an untentional nip. Thinking from a dogs perspective here. Thinking again of that well meaning family that posted recently whom adopted an 11 month friendly dog from the Humane Society and then had it put to sleep because it nipped one of the children. Your boy is also an emerging teen and not neutered and will be going through his testing period very soon if he's not in it already. The new family should be OES experienced as they won't view his emerging "testiness" as aggressiveness but just a normal part of his growing up. It's kinda like being handed a teen (human or furball) when they haven't had a chance to love and bond with it when it was little and cute. If one of my teens going through his hormonal testiness was given to me now...think I'd give him right back! Luckily I keep thinking about the sweet little boy he once was, and will one day resort to being human again. An experienced OES family will also realize that while beautiful dogs they are large, active and in some books are defined as being a breed requiring the highest upkeep regarding their hair. People may look at them and see the beauty Yikes I hope that doesn't come across wrong and please don't be insulted as I know everything you say about your boy is true..but with another family with kids and he trying to establish his place in the pack..a home with small children may not be the best placement for him. A woman by the name of Granny Annie whom many of us regard as the " angel of sheepies" and who runs NEOES (New England Old English Sheepdog Rescue) knows people all across the country and will be able to help you. The woman is a saint and can move mountains and will be able to contact people in your area. Again please keep us posted and best wishes! http://www.neoesr.org/ If I dig up her email I'll also send it to you via your email addy. Marianne and the boys |
Hi Guest,
It's really critical if you want your boy to go to a proper home to do the work and be patient in getting him into an OES rescue program. As you know, an OES puppy can be quite a handful, and OES dogs in general have many special requirements. A "regular" rescue or humane society just isn't experienced enough with this breed to place them well consistently. An OES rescue may have 10 (or 20 or maybe even 50 for the larger rescues) qualified homes waiting for a dog, but wants to match the right dog with the right home. It took my wife Joan and I more than 6 months of waiting for just that right dog to come along for our first rescue. So please, do what you can to help your dog, and please PLEASE be honest with the rescue folks. IF your dog has bitten they MUST know this so that they can place the dog with an appropriate family. It most likely won't result in your dog being disqualified, but not telling them and then having the dog bite an unsuspecting family member can lead to disasterous consequences. Anyway, like I said, *IF*. I hope that isn't the case. THANK YOU VERY MUCH for trying to get your boy into the proper hands. I really appreciate it, and if you can stick with it for a bit, we can work this out. Is there a deadline? |
Maybe someone should email this person our responses...since they are only a guest and might not come back to look at the post again and are just awaiting e-mails.
Just trying to avoid "regrets" here and make sure we have done all we could. You all know what I mean. |
Hi,
I did mail her to give her a heads up and hopefully it won't end up in junk mail as sometimes happens with mine, regarding people I don't know. Lets keep our fingers crossed we help this boy find a good forever home! Marianne |
I check the OES *Dog In Trouble* thread 10 times a day and also my email so dont worry about me not reading the responses. I REALLY appreciate the help.
I have turned down my own dad to take our dog because I dont think he can handle him. I really am determined to find him a good home. I really do appreciatet the help and concern. This boy has never bit....reading through some of the OES *behavior trouble* threads actually makes me think he may be a very good dog.I appreciate the advice to be very honest and truly I am. His biggest problem is he jumps up on you and like I said if your not bracing yourself can hurt you. And hes an OES!!! Very high maintanence....Eats alot poops alot. LOVES affection. Is big and goofy.He is a typical OES gangly and excitable. I think some of the quirks of this breed may be the very thing that OES lovers love. SO I agree that he needs a home with an experienced OES person. That is why I have posted here and am trying to contact rescue. We have had him since he was 6 weeks old and my husband has been VERY good and patient with him during those first few weeks with us. Our OES would cry at night...I guess seperation anxiety from being away from his litter mates and my husband would actually take him for drives at 3am to soothe him....It would work!!! I thouhgt that was so funny. He never even did that with our own children. Honestly this dog has been spoiled....He has never spent a night outside or been tied up. Still havent heard from the Texas people.I emailed about 5 different ones. |
Hi, Guest. Thank you for coming back to us for advice. I would STRONGLY suggest that you call the rescues instead of emailing them. Please don't give up. I think a phone call will give an extra nudge to the rescue that you are serious about this and they can get to know you and the pup better. Please don't give up!!! |
Marianne wrote: Hi,
A woman by the name of Granny Annie whom many of us regard as the " angel of sheepies" and who runs NEOES (New England Old English Sheepdog Rescue) knows people all across the country and will be able to help you. The woman is a saint and can move mountains and will be able to contact people in your area. Again please keep us posted and best wishes! http://www.neoesr.org/ If I dig up her email I'll also send it to you via your email addy. Marianne and the boys Dear Guest, What Marianne says is TRUE... Grannie Annie is the Sheepie angel... go to their website, you will be able to find her email address there... she will help you. Good luck and keep us posted. PS... Bless you for taking the time to find the right home for your sheepie baby. Brenda Dud and Murphy |
Some people are taking a long weekend, so I would give the TX group until Wednesday to respond. |
Hi:
I know a lady up in Whitewright Tx. that does rescue workand is real good at finding the right homes.She maybe willing just to keep your dog until you are able to move back home if that is an option.I would sure hate to see you give him up.If you like I can contact her and exchange info. She has old english sheepdogs. Thanks Steve |
Hi:
Even sending him to a rescue would not gaurentee that he would stay in the Dallas area. I hope he finds the best place that you wish him to be.In a way I wish that I could have him if I had the time. Thanks Steve |
Here is a list of the people I emailed for Texas rescue. I wrote them 5 days ago. One wrote back and asked if i needed permanent or temporary placement but that is all that I have heard from them. I am afraid they just have too many in rescue right now. I think 7 may be unusually high. I really thought that there were alot of good OES lovers looking for an OES. Especially a young healthy registered one without *issues*.
Is there a *typical* number that is available for adoption? Are there more OES than people wanting an OES? sueriha@aol.com ; JWMCD42@prodigy.net ; sschott@htcomp.net ; smwilliams@sprintmail.com ; cindysuefun@yahoo.com ; texasoesrescue@hotmail.com |
Please contact Grannie Annie... they have contacts throughout North America....
grannie.annie@neoesr.org |
Are you interested in a temporary/foster situation so you can get him back? |
Also, what is your deadline? |
I guess I'd best post a public update so steps aren't repeated unnecessarily.
I spoke with Grannie Annie about Texas OES Rescue and she highly recommended them. She said to contact Cindy or Steve. I have never assisted this group except through a donation but I got a hold of Cindy on the phone early that evening to tell her that someone was trying to reach them. She said that Steve had already sent an email reply out. I think I should explain Steve's question... at least the way I understand it... Cindy also asked if you are looking for a temporary or permanent solution... I told her I didn't know. I think it's because they don't know if for example there was a fire and you've been misplaced because of it or if you need to permanently rehome him. I was surprised that they might have an inexpensive option that might allow people to keep their dogs I had never even considered this. So that's the background I know about. I think it would be best to get on the phone with the rescue to find out if you are comfortable with them. Many of us on the oes.org message board can remember the miracle work they did with Petey earlier this year http://texasoesrescue.com/SPONSORLISTpage.htm (Cindy said he's doing great ). I've offered to pay for his neuter should he enter rescue so this will be just one less concern. If he goes through a rescue, he will not be used for breeding purposes only but would be part of a family that will love him as a companion. Here are the contact numbers again- Steve is the one that would be the best to contact because he's closest. Steve & Donna Schott 254-897-7886 Cindy Funderburke (Houston) 713-864-7890 If there is anything I can do, let just let me know. Jaci |
As Ron mentioned, when I got my rescue, they had other dogs, but we waiting for the one that was right for my life style. There is usually a list of families waiting for dogs, but soemtimes the correct match takes some time. Please keep us posted and Good luck. |
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I tried to email you but it wouldn't work. I live in Abilene TX, which is only about 2.5 3 hours away!!! I would love some more info on him, as my fiance are looking for a new dog!!! My heart is pounding right now We have a fenced yard also he would have a playmate, our catahola and blue lacy mix, her name is Penny. She is used to other dogs and would love a new little brother. You can email me or PM or whatever, i will be waiting your response!!!!!!! Shannon |
Oops... I forgot to say that it was on July 3rd I spoke with Grannie Annie and Cindy.
Back on the 23rd, Grannie Annie mentioned that NEOESR had 19 dogs that were awaiting their forever families They only post a small portion of the available dogs and they have a number of foster homes that assist. Just one person cannot do it all and do it well. I'm not sure of the number of foster homes TOESR has... it's a question to ask if you decide to go with a rescue. |
Ron
No we dont have a deadline as far as our dog beign given to a humane society or worse. We would keep him NO MATTER WHAT before we would let him go to a bad situation. You all are like the best kindest most concerned people in the world! |
http://www.texasoesrescue.com/TEXASADOPTIONFORM.htm
Here is the adoption form from the Texas rescue club. How do you all feel about me using it myself to screen possible applicants? I think I told Jaci that we have turned down several (5 to date) *prospective* owners for various reasons. I really felt like the OES people may be the best solution. But I could help them out perhaps by screening and then I would KNOW for SURE that he had a good home. 2 different people (fairly long term members) from this forum have inquired. I have an appointment to have him neutered Monday. I would even consider transporting to just about ANYWHERE if I knew he would be spoiled rotten. One other thing.........I had no idea that rescues offer temporary placements.....does anyone know how that works? |
Let me fill it out, you have no idea how excited i am right now. BUT i don't want to freak you out or anything
Shannon |
A couple more questions.....How long is too long for a dog (OES) to be left alone. I am a homemaker,home all the time and my husband owns his own business and so when I have obligations I drop off our boy at his office and he stays there. We have literally NEVER left him for more than 5 hours....except when we went out of town we boarded him. Is 8 hours while people work acceptable? What about leaving him outside or at least while the owners work (remember this is Texas where it is REALLY hot)? I think he should be indoors and that 4 or 5 hours alone should be max except for on occasions. Is this unreasonable? |
I would say 8 hours gets to be too long. Sometrimes it can't be helped. But i know of a lot of people that have family members & friends stop by to check on them and play around. It helps what kiind of area the dog is in most ofthe day too. |
Good Morning, I sent you an e mail. |
Quote: I really felt like the OES people may be the best solution. But I could help them out perhaps by screening and then I would KNOW for SURE that he had a good home...One other thing.........I had no idea that rescues offer temporary placements.....does anyone know how that works?
I'd call them. I don't think it was the rescue offering this service but someone that they have access to (obviously I don't know anything about it ). Call to discuss all of your options... this way you will know first hand if it's right for you. I'm so glad he's going to be neutered... it will weed out some of the people who want to "use" him instead of love him. I learned a few years ago that AKC papers really stand for just about nothing. Man was I floored! The puppy mills use AKC registered dogs. This will sound terrible and don't get me wrong because I adore and cherish my littlest sheepie... she is my heart. BUT I could have had my blind, cleft palate pup with a nose deformity registered as AKC. AKC means simply they are purebred... it says nothing about the dogs health or temperament history or testing. Before this I had always assumed that AKC registration meant the dog was "above average". (I got my first full-sheepies about 2 1/2 years ago... first purebred, non-rescue dogs I ever owned.) Jeez... what can I say? |
My husband and I work a regular 8-6 schedule M-F and we leave Barney home alone during that time. He bothers the cats when he's bored, but besides that, he's fine being home alone for that long (no accidents or chewed furniture or anything). They tend to get used to whatever schedule you throw at them. He knows when it is the weekend and we are going to be home, and when it is the workday routine.
Obviously it would be nice to be with him more, but someone has to bring home the dog biscuits! I would worry if someone was to leave their dog out in the heat for a long period of time, but that situation would have to depend on shade available, water available, if the dog was shaved or full coat... |
Joan and I used to leave our Jake for the entire workday. He slept. |
I leave mine inside for the work day. If my kids come over, they always let them out and play with them for a bit.
And when I get off for the summer, like now, I get to see what they do all day when I am not here. Yeap, they sleep a lot. |
I leave mine outside most of the day and I am in texas.Never could get them housebroken,but still give them alot of my time so they are not neglected.I hope you would let us know what happens when you find him a new home.
Thanks Steve |
I was just checking in to see what had developed in the situation, i emailed you, but i am not sure if you received it. Hope your family is doing well
Shannon |
I don't think 8 hours is too long. Most familes that have animals also work. Max and miller are left inside everyday from 8am to 5ish pm. They don't seem to mind. They sleep ALL DAY!. Its funny because on the weekends they don't get their usuall naps so they are exhausted at like 5pm.
Keep us informed! |
Zack had his surgery today. He is a eunuch dog now! Poor baby has been sleeping most of the afternoon. He is going to stay with us. I feel really bad about this whole thing. I talked to Steve with the Texas rescue group....in fact made an appointment to have him come and get him this last week....then we just couldnt do it.....so will have to do something else.....
Thanks so much for your help and concern! |
I'm so glad you'll be keeping your sheepie-boy.
Quote: He is a eunuch dog now!
He should be feeling better soon. The day of surgery my girls were all sleepy and sore but the next morning it was like nothing had happened. Big hugs to Zack. Please keep us posted on how you all are doing. Good luck to you! Jaci |
I hope there is a fairytale ending for you and Zack. If you are keeping him, please consider joining the forum and sharing your stories and experiences with us.
For what it is worth, Monday to Friday, my two are home alone 8 hours a day, then they get an afternoon walk from a paid dogwalker, then wait a few more hours til I come home. We are all very happy with this schedule. I don't know about Texas heat though. |
That is great, i sincerley hope that he gets to stay with your family!!!! Even in the Texas heat, the pup will adjust, to whatever time he needs to be alone for. But it is helpful to have him clipped short and a shaded area at all times of the day. But then you probably already know that.
Good luck and hope your sheepie is feeling better in no time Shannon |
Hi there, I'm not sure if this thread is still active or not, but I've been away for a long time and just checked in now that I've gotten settled with moving across the country from Los Angeles to outside of Dallas. Spike and I now live on 13 acres about 40 minutes outside of Dallas. (He's absolutely in doggie heaven having 13 wooded acres and 2 ponds to frolic in!)
Original poster - please PM me if you are still looking for a home. Spike would definitely like a new buddy out here in the country. Good luck and take care. I'll try and get online more often but it's difficult with all the things I have going on right now. Thanks! |
Anonymous wrote: I think he should be indoors and that 4 or 5 hours alone should be max except for on occasions. Is this unreasonable?
Not at all. |
If anyone would like to email or call me personally about Zack... you can! My email is pielime@sbcglobal.net and my cell is 817-705-8494 |
ive tried 20 times to join the forum to no avail. It just wont let me I also tried to contact the ADMIN and this didnt work either!
Does anyone know why itwont let me join ? Ug |
If some kind person could please contact PM email RollrXGirl and srw808 and have them contact me at 817-705-8494 or pielime@sbcglobal.net I would really appreciate it. We are unable to login for some reason so I cannot contact them personally.
Thanks |
I'll forward the info for you.
Just a note... Zack's mama and I spoke back in July and she said they had decided not to put him up for adoption. Zack is such a handsome boy and looked to be a much loved member of their family. Wishing them the best! |
So i emailed her, but i am super curious why I thought they were gonna keep him
Shannon |
Thanks 6Girls! I too emailed the original poster and am curious as to how things are with Zack at this point. |
Oops... I just realized the guest poster is Carleen. Sorry for the confusion... I thought it was different guest. |
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