Chauncey, rain, pulling by the collar and a bite.
I would like to post a picture like I see many have done when they post, would someone tell me how to do this. Thanks |
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| Hi and welcome to the forum!
I'm sure many folks will jump in with some great advice, but let me start off by saying if ever for any reason you feel you can't deal with Chauncey's issues, please contact an OES-specific rescue group. They will be BEST at evaluating Chauncey and finding the appropriate solution for him. If you need help finding an OES rescue, I'll be glad to help. Just drop me a line by PM or email. As far as posting pictures, there's a lot of info in the FAQs section of the forum, here's a link: http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=1119 Scroll down to read all the different scenarios. Again, WELCOME to the forum! |
| Hi, Chauncey and welcome to the forum. We have a 5 month old pup who also needs a little guidance into his crate. I find that leading him into his crate with something tasty is a sure way to get him in there. I lead him with a treat, but you can also put a stuffed Kong in there, a Nylabone he might like, etc. The key is to give him somethng "fun" so he associates his crate with something good. Looking forward to seeing pictures soon! |
| Welcome! Chauncey is still a baby, and babies are very "mouthy". They love to explore with their mouths and don't realize when its not appropriate. Thats when we need to step in. I think the vinegar and white bottle was a great solution (no pun intended!). As for the crate, sorry...but my dogs have always loved their crates, so I can't help you. I'm glad you found us. I know I've learned tons of stuff here, and I'm sure you will too!!!! Oh, and I can't wait to see your pictures. |
| Hi and Welcome!
Yep, my dog Barney is not a fan of being led by his collar. I tried it a few times when he was about your Chauncey's age and he snapped at me (missed me, thankfully) so now I try and lead him around in a different manner, either by enticing him with food, or by putting his leash on him and leading him that way. |
| I like the leash idea.....that way the dog associates the tug with the leash, not by your hand......simple minds remember.
But as for using treats to entice behavior........this house is run on dog cookies!! You'd be shocked how many pounds we buy a week. susan |
| Have you noticed Chauncey getting aggressive in other situations where you did not touch his collar or neck? It could just be that he does not like that, and the leash idea or bribing with treats sounds like a good thing to try.
But, if Chauncey has gotten aggressive in other situations or tries to assert himself as alpha over you often, then the solution might be more complicated. I would look around for threads about the "nothing in life is free" approach and I would also consider finding a positive reinforcement trainer. Good luck!! I have a 3 year old aggressive dog who has made amazing progress, so if you have any questions or just want to vent feel free to send me a PM! |
| One other thing: If Chauncey isn't neutered, please consider doing that sooner rather than later. You don't want his "alpha tendencies" to become ingrained. |
Is your sheepie-boy neutered?? If he is not neutered, I BEG you take him in now to have this done.  Neutering can help cool down the dominant male personality and make him easier to manage (in other words, neutering can make him a more enjoyable, even tempered companion).
The biting you described is never acceptable. Please don't allow a problem to become well established before seeking help from a humane professional trainer or OES rescue. The quicker a problem is addressed the better for everyone... most importantly your sheepie. If you want his crate to be a place where he WILLING will go... Feed all meals inside the crate if he has scheduled feedings. Have him go into his crate and give him treats. Give him a stuffed Kong or other reward when he's inside his crate. Never use the crate for punishment... never. Cover the crate to make it dark inside... many dogs like the cozy, den feeling (always remember to remove the collar before crating). To get him to go out in the rain, you might consider a slip-type leash that is easy to put on and take off. One like this- http://helpingudders.com/BraidedLeads.htm . Put in on him, say "Let 's Go" and try to encourage him to exit the house willingly. You might give him a super yummy treat only used for pottytime. Reward him for leaving the house (if it was a big deal) and head to "the fence". After he potties, give him a treat so he will look forward to the excursion next time. Please keep us posted on how he's doing. I'm looking forward to a picture! 
Jaci |
| Chauncey doesn't usually mind the crate, that particular evening seemed to be a fluke. We only crate him when we are not home, we are starting to gate him in the kitchen instead of crating, and at night he's in the middle. I am retired so he really isn't alone all that much. Using treats is not an option that has worked well for us, he just isn't interested. Our lab was just the opposite he'd have sold his soul for a "cookie".
Chauncey was neutered at 16 weeks, our vet recommends this for anyone not interested in breeding. We did have a one on one trainer when he was a couple of months old, but he remains a little strong willed. But I have seen a big change in personality in the last month. As a puppy he was never one to snuggle, preferring to play rough and nip. He has out grown this. Now everytime you sit down you have a lap full of Chauncey. He hasn't bit or nipped since the vinegar/water spray ( husband calls it macing ), but he is still really oral when I groom him...not nipping or biting just gentle chewing that doesn't hurt. I've tried everything diversional I can think of, chew toys, etc. Is this a common problem? Thanks for all the help and suggestions, Kathy |
| Oh one more thing, I did buy a Halti collar. This has been a great investment. Before he'd slip the collar and the chase was on.
One problem that remains is not coming on command...this has been a tough one....Kathy |
| Phew! Oh, thank you for being a responsible pet owner and having him neutered. So that's one thing that can be ruled out.
Have you tried cooked chicken or cooked liver as an extra special treat? I take raw liver, boil it, then bake it on a cookie sheet on low 'til it dries out some. I refrigerate it after. If he's free-fed, food may not be an incentive... or maybe food simply is not his motivator. When our dogs were all puppies, we used a clothes line tied to the collar when they were outside (used only when supervised). They would play, we'd call them and if they didn't come, we would pull them in saying "come" as we did this. We did it EVERY time and did not let them get away with NOT coming. When we stopped using the clothes line and if they didn't come, we went to get them with a slip-leash. Again, we did not allow them to get away with NOT coming but we had to be consistant. Another thing is when you call a dog to you, don't always to it in order to catch or confine them. You don't want him to associate "come" with something he may see as negative. So call him to you, make sure you're able to give him a pat or two, then release him to play again. The reason for the touching is so you would be able to leash him at some point if it was a matter of life or death. And NEVER call him to you to punish or scold him... again, that's something negative that you don't want to associate with come. Any other ideas that might help out there? I'm not a pro-trainer so there are probably better approaches. |
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