Getting a second OES tomorrow
We're most likely getting a second OES tomorrow, another rescue, and another one named Blue! You can catch up on all the hairy details here: http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?p=101828#101828 A quick overview of what we know so far: She's already been rescued once, from an abusive "breeder." She's already had at least one litter and she's only 18 months now. The family that has her now said she was in terrible condition when they got her. They shaved her down, had her spayed, and got her up to date on her shots. They've had her since February. However, they just found out their two year old son is extremely allergic to the dog, so they are desparate to find her a new home. We're going up to meet her tomorrow and if she gets along with our Blue, she'll be coming home with us. We've been warned that she does come with a couple bad habits, however. Apparently, she's a counter surfer and all-around accomplished food thief, even managing to open cabinets and help herself. They also said she loves to eat and would eat constantly if allowed. She weighs around 80 pounds now, but doesn't look overweight in her pictures. She might just be a big girl making up for lost time. LOL Our Blue is not a counter surfer and is actually very good about leaving food alone unless he has permission. I'd hate to think he might learn bad habits from our new addition, so is there a good way to break the counter surfing habit other than never leaving food where they can get to it? The other issue is apparently she's a submissive pee-er. Is there a way of breaking them of that other than lots of patience, confidence building, and time? Thanks everyone! Josh, Jon, and Blue |
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| When Panda was a puppy, she submissively peed. Especially around new people. We broke the habit by not letting her by the front door when people came over, and when the did greet her, spoke softly and didnt get her too excited..it took about 2 months..... |
| I am sure that others will be able to offer tips to deter counter surfing, but if she is determined enough...she will always do it.
We used to have two dogs and one of them could open cabinets. He would always open the one where his treats were. However, once it was open he would stand there and bark for you to come give him one. The other dog who didn't open the cabinet would then go to the cabinet and spill the treats on the floor. Then they both ate them. The were very good at teamwork 
To deter the counter surfing we just kept our counters clear. We put food that was ordinarily left on the counter into the microwave. That solution worked for us. |
I forgot...Congrats on your second Blue!!!!  |
| Thanks! We're excited. We just hope it's a relatively easy transition to a two dog household.
Here's a pic of the new girl:  |
| Sounds like my Maggie! Patience and positive direction are helpful in correcting both!
With the submissive peeing, that basically resolved on its own once Maggie grew comfortable in the new environment. Early on, it was important not to get her riled up and not to let her out of the crate while she was acting wild. Basically, just ignore it and it goes away in time. She was tending to still pee for my afternoon dogwalker but he stopped it by immediately putting the leash on her when he released her from the crate and taking her outside -- no running around free outside the crate. With the counter-surfing, intially she was popping up on the counter all the time. But I constantly told her off and would divert her to something else (sit, stay, down, etc.). And now she rarely ever does it. I keep her crated though when I am not home. She probably would do it if I wasn't home. But when I am home, she is pretty trustworthy. I also always correct her when she tries to come into the kitchen, trying to reinforce that the kitchen is offlimits. Overall, I have found both issues pretty manageable. And her bad habits did not rub off on Chummie at all. But Chum couldn't countersurf to save her life. Just doesn't have that kind of mobility. Good luck!! |
| Mulligan was a peer when we got him , and had been restricted water. He was just shy of 2 years old. Over the course of maybe 6 months, he stopped.
We restored his water rights immediately and weaned him from constant drinking, by pure horsepucky luck. His peeing was both when submissive and when excited. We helped avoid the excited leaking by calming down out greetings, and when coming home after being out by immediately taking him out to go pee. Good luck! |
Congrats!!  She is adorable
As far as counter surfing and food stealing, I've heard having a can of pennies and shaking it from where she can't see you is sometimes successful (if you catch her) however, I have a smart thief too and the best bet is just to remember to never leave anything out, and if she can open cabinets, buy child safety locks.  |
| Phoebe is a pantry thief My door handles are levers she's great at opening them. I changed it to a knob, now she's a begger. Congrats she is beautiful |
Way to cool!!!!!!!!! Two Blue's 
She's sweet, congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!! Blue and Blue Clue-can life get better!!!
Have fun with your sheepies !!!!!!!! |
| When we got our first OES, I knew he'd be tall enough to eat off the table and counters so I decided to pro-actively deal with it. I did the following: I would place something tempting: a bit of chicken or cheese on the edge of the table while I was sitting there. When Merlin would reach for it, I'd tell him no. I'd repeat this several times and THEN I'd give him the tempting treat from my hand. After a fairly short time, he was very reliable, at least when we were around. It worked great as long as there was somebody in the house. I was never so foolish as to leave something tempting out on the counter or table when no one was at home. He was good, but not THAT good.
However, this only applied to the table or counters, not to the chairs. We had small children at the time and I actually was happy when Merlin would clean up after the kids on the floor and chairs. My oldest son was very proud of how well Merlin was trained, and so he was showing off to a friend, that Merlin wouldn't eat unless given permission. He put a piece of cheese on the CHAIR. Of course, Merlin ate it right up, just as I had always allowed. . |
| Sorry I don't have an answer for the problems. But as a rescuer of a Maggie who also came with a lot of baggage, in spite of the problems you'll never regret your move.
God bless. |
| I had read this girl is from NEOESR in the other thread... Grannie Annie would probably recommend ScatMats and remind you that if they get the food they've been rewarded for the behavior which makes it more difficult to correct.
We adopted Panda from NEOESR too (in September) and counter surfing was one of her "issues". The mats corrected the counter surfing problem so we've been able to remove them. We still have to be extremely diligent in keeping counters clear and never leaving food unattended. Put all food away... in the drawer, in the fridge, in the cupboard. Keep the counters clear and put all medications up high in the cupboards... ALWAYS. If you have to step out of the room, put your plate in the fridge or microwave until you come back... or put Blue in the other room. I sat at the dinner table one night while my husband went to sign for a delivery and Panda immediately started eating off his plate  The nerve of this dog! She knew NO limits.
We put the wastebasket out of reach... we got a covered basket that's in a cubby hole in another room. Panda was also a garbage hound. As for the submissive peeing, you might trying ignoring her. When you come home or a guest visits, make no eye contact with her and no attempts to pet her or even acknowledge her. Let the home comings be low key. And for heaven's sake don't talk in a high pitch tone. My sister would do this to my sheepie-mix who was extremely alpha and aloof and she'd pee everytime. She thought it was soooo funny (I guess it was since this dog was alpha-extreme and had such an attitude.) PLEASE let us know how your visit went! Jaci |
| The new Blue looks adorable. She looks alot like our Bart.
We have had the double name thing with dogs before. We had 2 basset hounds named Daisey. Both were rescues. We got the 2nd one as a 1 yr old when the 1st one was 6 yrs old. We called them Old Daisey and Little Daisey. (Little Daisey was petite -about 35 lbs) have fun with your 2-Blues! |
| Update here:
http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?p=102082#102082 |
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!
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| How're the 2 dogs doing, now that a little time has passed? |
| I saw you found my latest posts on the picture and antics board, but I'll answer here anyway, just so no one thinks I'm being rude and ignoring a post! LOL
They're doing great. They get along so well. They play together all the time. We go see the vet on Monday with Belle, and if all goes well, I think we're going to be adopting her. We've fallen too much in love with her, and I think Blue would be lost without her now. WE'RE DONE AFTER THIS THOUGH! (famous last words?) |
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