HELP...POTTY TRAINING HELL
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| A couple questions for you:
How big is her crate? It should only be big enough for her to stand up and turn around. How long is she in it at a time? I have been told that the general rule of thumb for puppies is that they should only be asked to hold it for as many hours as they are months old (6mos old = no more than 6 hours) -- but even that may be too long for some. With the bell, do you make her ring it everytime before you take her out? Pick up her paw and ring it every time, and she'll catch on eventually. If her crate is small enough and she's going out often, I would take her to the vet. It could be a bladder / urinary tract infection. That will make them have to pee a lot more frequently than normal. |
| It took Barney a long time to 'get it' with house training. We had set water times and took him out all the time, but we would be in the house and without warning Barney would be peeing.
He pretty much outgrew it after awhile. I still get scared that he isn't 100%, but (knock on wood) he's been pretty good for the last several months. But I am religious about taking him out... |
| Clyde was the same way. Took forever until he stopped having accidents. We taught him to ring a bell and that helped a lot. If you're still using it, try putting the bell at nose height for her and just bump it yourself everytime that you take her out. After about a week, she'll realize that she'll get to go outside if she nudges the bell. Clyde loved going outside so I think that was a great motivator in his learning. We still have the bells up and, when we got Bear, he watched Clyde and picked it right up too, without any effort from us to make him learn it. I think teaaching the the dog to actually paw the bell, although equally effective, may be a bit more complicated, especially when you've already got a dog resistant to going out. I'd make it easy as possible!
Like Barney, Clyde just clicked one day too and everything has been perfect ever since. Now he holds it forever and I trust him 100%. Sometimes you can be doing all the right things and it just doesn't stick. I know how you feel. For awhile, I really thought I'd be cleaning up pee for the next 10 or 12 years! |
| There is no physical reason for her pottying in the house (urinary tract infection, struvite crystals- these make house training extremely difficult, etc.)?
Do you feed at scheduled times during the day? If you feed dry dog food you might ask your vet about adding just enough water so it starts to float then letting the food absorb all of the water. The idea is that if you control what goes in you will control what comes out... to some degree anyway. Have set times that you take her out to potty... immediately after she eats, before she is crated or goes to bed, just after sleeping, after play or excitement. We used a bell for two of them... to start, we would ask them, "Gotta go?" and pick up their foot to ring the bells, then open the door and go out on a LEASH so we made sure they pottied. You might also limit access to one room (preferably with tile for easier cleaning... like the kitchen)... I would not let her roam the house until she's been pottie-trained unless someone is watching her. If she starts sniffing around she probably has to go. Please keep us posted on how she does. |
I would get her checked by a vet to rule out any medical reason for this, and go from there... good luck!  |
wELL SORRY FOR THE LATE RESPONSE. sHE WAS JUST SPAYED AND THE VET CHECKED ALL WHILE SHE WAS THERE. i TOLD THE VET ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH GOING IN MY HOUSE. vET SAID EVERYTHING WAS OK FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT. i AM GOING TO GET A SMALLER EASIER BELL AND TRY THAT, BUT HAVE DECIDED TO PUT HER BACK ON THE LEAD WHEN SHE IS IN THE HOUSE, SO SHE IS ALWAYS IN MY EYE SITE. iTS THE ONLY THING I CAN FIGURE FOER NOW. i AM FEEDING HER AT 7-7:30 EVERY MORNING, sHE GOES OUT TO PEE FIRST THEN UP FOR A BIT TO EAT AND THEN BACK OUT TO POO. i COME HOME AT 12ISH TO WALK HER EVERY DAY AND AGAIN AT 6ISH SO THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM. i ALSO CALL IN MY PARENTS WHEN SHE HAS NOT POOED OR SOMETHING, AND I STILL GET A POO OR PEE COVERED DOG. rIGHT NOW ITS SO BAD BECAUSE SHE CAN'T HAVE A BATH UNTILL A FEW MORE DAYS BECAUSE OF THE SURGURY SO SHE IS JUST SMELLY  i HAD HER IN PET SMART TRAINING BUT IT WAS A JOKE. i GUESS I NEED A GOOD TRAINER. nOT ONLY IS SHE NOT POTTY TRAINED SHE JUMPS ON EVERYTHING AND IS JUST OUT OF CONTROL. SHE PEES WHEN SHE GETS EXCITED. sHE WILL NOT LISTEN AND HAS NO CLUE OF COME OR STAY OR NO. i AM A LITTLE OUT OF MY LEAGE. i HAVE A RESCUE WHO LUCKLY CAME ALREADY TRAINED. cAN YOU RENT A dOG WISPER DVD? i AM AT A LOSS  |
| Sorry you're having such a hard time... I know the feeling.
Make sure you keep her incision clean or it could get badly infected if it has urine and feces on it. |
| Had never heard of training a dog to a bell before, but since I just adopted a new puppy for Daisy, I thought this sounded interesting.
Since I had a string of bells that my mother used to have on her door, I figured I'd give it a try. I couldn't believe it when the puppy (8 wks old) went to it after less than a day and figured it was just a fluke, but no. Today (48 hrs after hanging the bell) I was upstairs and the pup was downstairs taking a nap when I heard the bells, not realizing what it was I waited a second and heard it again. Obviously I went down and there was the pup sitting by the door waiting to go out. Such a good boy/ went out and pooped (has not pooped inside in a week). Unfortunately he has not caught on that he's supposed to pee outside and that is hit or miss at this point. Have to watch carefully and be there when he wakes up. Oh well, can't expect everything at once. Daisy hasn't shown any interest in the bells at this point, I think she figures she already has me trained well enough. |
| Sorry, still trying to understand what's happening here. So she only goes to the bathroom in her crate when you're not home?
Sounds like it might be an anxiety issue. In & out of the crate do you fuss & coddle her? Or when you come home to the mess do you seem angry? I would suggest when you come home that you just ignore her for the first 5 minutes or so until she seems completely calm in the crate. Same when you are leaving, just put her in her crate and shut the door and not say goodbye or anything. To this day we still ignore our dogs coming in & out of the house and that has worked wonders in settling them down. |
 I DIDN'T THINK I MADE A BIG DAEL WHEN I LEFT, BUT I DEFINALTY MAKE A BIG DEAL WHEN I COME HOME AND THERE IS A POO COVERED OLIVE. iT REALLY STINKS. sO FAR THIS WEEK SHE IS DOING GOOD AGAIN, BUT I CAN'T GO HOME FROM WORK FOR THE NEXT 12 YEARS OR HOWEVER LONG SHE LIVES, JUST TO WALK HER EVERY DAY. wHEN WILL SHE LEARN TO HOLD IT FO R A WHILE? sHE HOLDS IT AT NIGHT IN HER CRATE BY MY BED. sHE GOES THROUGH THE NIGHT. hOW MUSC WATER SHOULD SHE BE DRINKING.? i WILL TRY TO BE CALM AT ALL TIME, BUT I AM NOW WOUNDERING IF I NEED AN EXPERT. I THINK SHE WALKS ALL OVER ME. sHE WILL NOT LISTEN TO ANY COMMANDS, AND IS ALL TOGETHER OUT OF CONTROL. mY RESCUE DOG CODY MAY HAVE FOND A PERMANENT HOME, AND WHEN HE GOES I AM GOING TO GET OLIVE IN A DOG BOOT CAMP CLASS. SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP ME WITH ALL THE TRANING ISSUES. sHE WON'T COME WHEN I CALL HER. SHE OPENS THE FRONT DOOR ON HER OWN AND RUNS OFF. sHE LOVES TO TRY TO KNOCK DOWN THE OLD PEOPLE THAT TAKE WALKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ONE DAY SHE IS GOING TO HURT SOMEONE. SO I AM THINKING MY PROBLEM IS BIGGER THAN JUST POTTY TRAINING...ITS TRAINING IN GENERAL I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH. o WHERE IS CESAR MILAN WHEN I NEED HIM!  |
| O AND I AM HAVING TROUBLE WITH OLIVE GOING IN THE CRATE, OUT OF THE CRATE AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN. I DO NOT TRUST HER FOR A SECOND IN MY HOME. WHEN SHE GETS EXCITED SHE PEES ON THE FLOOR. IT JUST RUNS DOWN HER LEG. ANYWAY I THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE HOSE BROKEN BY NOW |
| I know how hard it is to be patient. Clyde was still really untrustworthy at that age too and it is beyond frustrating. The best advice I can give is to be consistent.
Maybe if the crate isn't working, is there a small area you could confine her to? Perhaps that might help her feel less anxious and stop some of the accidents. Good luck! |
| Well..
I feel your pain! Pip is still not housebroken at 5 months  We work so hard, and I don't have any issues with him holding it in the crate... but if we don't get up early enough, or put him out exactly every 2 hours... there's still a pile or a puddle to clean up. (He doesn't mess himself anymore, thank goodness)
We just have to keep trying to be consistent with him... I would try maybe limiting her water an hour before it is crate time, if possible, removing any bedding that you may have in there (permanently!), pottying right before you crate her, and then make the crate experience as pleasant as possible... I put on some jazz music for pip, give him a few toys, and ALWAYS a "keep me busy" toy, like a peanut butter filled kong. The more pleasant the experience, hopefully, the easier time she'll have crated, that may help the potty issue. Definitely get her into a beginners obediance class... If you've already been in one, get in another one and stay in it. The more daily training work you do with her, the better and better behaved she will be. Work towards goals, and don't be afraid to dole out small food rewards for willing cooperation! When Pip is being a total idiot, I put him through his "routine": sit, down, stand, turn right, turn left, sit and he's back with me and the behavior stops! (Obviously start with the easy stuff like sit, and work your way up) And remember STINKY TREATS!!!! Liver and cheese based treats tend to work best
Hang in there! |
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