When and if can we teach our OES puppy "down"
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| We are just learning "down" (part 1) in puppy class. Apparently this is the most submissive & vulnerable position that your pup will be in so it's the hardest to teach. Hopefully I can explain it okay.
Once she is in the sit position with a treat in your hand, take it directly down from the nose to the floor. If her behind pops up off the floor you will need to take your hand and place it directly below her shoulder blades and guide her firmly, but gently to the floor, then reward. Frank (11 wks) and I are still working with this. I've found that if I place the treat directly next to his nose and guide him down that that seems to work well too. I haven't been able to get him down directly on verbal command yet, but hopefully that will be soon. |
| Great description from Verve! She's not to young to learn - and actually she's not too young to start puppy kindergarten! You should look into enrolling her in an obedience class. |
| You can also gently bump her off with your knee every time she jumps on you and say OFF. If you keep doing this everytime she goes to jump on you, she will stop and think twice before doing it again. When company comes, teach them to do it as well. You will have a dog that keeps all four on the floor.
I learned this in obedience class, and it definitely saves on muddy feet all over your clothes, or snags in the nylons. |
TaijaBlue wrote: You can also gently bump her off with your knee every time she jumps on you and say OFF. If you keep doing this everytime she goes to jump on you, she will stop and think twice before doing it again. When company comes, teach them to do it as well. You will have a dog that keeps all four on the floor.
Please be careful when doing this - I've known dogs who have been injured when the knee hit them in the chest! |
| Lucy is quit the greeter also and jumped up alot. I tried the knee, no, gentle push but the most success came from turning my back to her right away and ignoring her and her jumping and when she stopped I said sit. When she sat I then greeted her with love and praise. That has worked the best. Now she greets us by siting. She hops as she sits but is siting. Gotta love those Sheepies:) |
| Why do you think I chose the word "gently"? Of course you do not want to hurt the dog. I gaurantee this will work if it's done properly, and it only takes a few times, depending on the dog. Remy ALWAYS sits now for my attention, and she is definitely rewarded for it. She also goes to the down position on command.
I've had a boxer too, if you know this breed, they are huge jumpers. I NEVER had that problem, he was very well behaved, but I had to teach him off. With Remy I only need to say the words with the guests who come in, and she knows what it means, and now she sits for their attention too. |
| Gently or not - you can still hurt the dog! Especially when you are suggesting that "guests" do this as well - can you really judge how "gently" they will be kneeing your dog?
Just my opinion. Not saying it doesn't work or it's a bad idea - just saying to be careful! |
| Any contac while training a puppy is considered a good touch by the puppy. Therefore using a knee to stop a puppy from jumping is wrong and also it can harm the puppy! Turn your back on the puppy, use the sit command and give the puppy praise when done. Don't use the word NO! Be positive using the sit command when a puppy does not follow a command this allows you to give the puppy praise which makes him happy and builds his confidance and more importantly will make the puppy happy for the next training session. I have used this method with sheepie dogs and this method of training will give you a very happy eager to please dog. We don't like it when they growl so don't growl at them and shout at them this will shut them off. |
| I don't know how big your puppy is, but if you don't teach it something, like sit and down, you will have a 60 lb puppy in a few short months that will jump on you. Come home in a beautiful dress or freshly dry cleaned suit and turn your back on them, you will have paw prints on the back.
If you use your knee to block the pup from jumping up, you do not hurt the dog. I've had 10 different dogs, I use the same teaching techniques I learned in obedience. Not one single dog got hurt or stopped loving me, or felt I was in any way abusive. They all learned to approach me and sit directly infront of me for their treats or attention. Even the 12 week old puppies I've fostered. I also have two small kids, that little puppy is a big puppy knocking them down, if they turn their backs, the kids for sure get knocked down. I have taught them to hold their knee up, not to kick, just block the dog from hitting them in the face. The dog learns very quickly he/she gets no petting for jumping up, that only reinforces the jumping. You touch them they feel rewarded. When they get bumped off and the word followed is OFF, they are taken back, I follow with sit, then followed with good girl/boy lots of petting as long as all four are on the floor. Then every time I see my dog/puppy they run up to me and sit, I could wear a wedding dress, and not worry about being jumped up on. But whatever, you will figure out what works for you. Just wanted to reassure you it does not hurt the dog. if someone has done it with force, then they are not doing it right. No dog should be injured with this. |
| I have heard many experienced trainers and dog owners suggest a knee up to block the dog when it jumps, and it does work. I haven't had to use that with Dancer however. She has only jumped up on people a few times, and not lately. She would jump up, eager to greet people and want to lick their ears (especially my husbands) and we would just back up so she misses and lands on the floor, and say sit at the same time. She sits and is rewarded with lots of praise. With the kids, my kids unfortunately don't listen as well as the puppy sometimes, so if they are playing and I see her do it I'll tell (usually my youngest son,8yrs old) to go sit on the couch and ignore her untill she settles down. While I'm telling him this, I'm telling Dancer to sit, and reward her. It seemed to work. Dancer now sits for attention, and sits when she is greeting someone at the door, her whole back end wiggling in anticipation of being petted...lol... I keep treats at the door for guests to give her as well. |
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