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| Uhmmmmm...Ok. I know ALOT of people who have family pits and they are sweet,and loyal.Im really not sure as too why this post came out of the blue,maybe Ive missed something??? Everyone has their favorite breeds,and ar very passionate about them.So again Im not sure why someone felt the need too come up w/ this post,BUT I will check out the rest of the forum too see  However has all know there are tons of people who DO train their pits too attack and kill,so that side cant be ignored either. Any dog can attack anyone hear about the lady in France whos face was eaten off by her Lab? Ok anyways off too find what the reason this post is about.. |
| I'm sure the majority of pitbulls are wonderful. The problem is that the few who aren't don't just nip, they maul, and do it relentlessly. It's just the way it is.
Every single solitary pitbull owner whose dog has mauled someone has said the exact same thing as you; they are wonderful, I've never had a problem, I just don't understand it, this is the first time, etc. When a small dog bites, even if they are relentless it doesn't turn into more than stitches. When a large non-relentless dog bites it doesn't turn into more than stitches. Not that stitches are always a minor thing. Unfortunately, pitbulls are huge and relentless. And that's a deadly combination. Pitbulls kill. Poodles don't. Sheepdogs don't. I hope your good fortune continues to smile upon you. |
| I used to do work with the humane society and around here 90% of the dogs that came in were pits. I was also very, very vocal with the push that came for pits not to be judged by the few bad cases that have been so widely published.
That being said, my dog was attacked by a pit bull and do you know what it's owner said? My dog would never do a thing like that! GUESS WHAT, it did! The biggest thing with this whole issue is EDUCATION. Telling people that they are loving and sweet dogs is tantamount to propaganda in my book. These dogs were bred for a single purpose, when all else fails, instinct kicks in and takes over. They physically have a jaw that locks and a flat nose so that they can maul and they can fight. If people who own this breed want it to survive they need to stop praising how inherently wonderful they are and start teaching the people who adopt them to train them and control them. They need to know what these dogs are capable of and what to do if they are in a situation where there is a problem. When my dog was attacked, the owner (white male, nicer clothes, spoke well) had no idea what a release word was and had never trained his dog at all. Oh and by the way, his dog was unneutered too but we won't address that now. He also stood there and whimpered while it was going on. You want to have this breed fine but if the fanciers want it to prosper they are going to have to do something about the yahoos out there that are getting these dogs. |
| I'm not sure why you are posting on an OES board about pitbulls but that's ok, we are open to dialog about any kind of dog.
As an RN with many years experience in the ER I will tell you that I have never seen a child severly mauled by any type of dog OTHER than a pitbull. Dog bites yes but mauling NO. I have seen enough children brought into the ER with terrible terrible wounds inflicted by pit bulls to know that the pitbull is not a dog I would ever care to own or be around. I don't know why it is but pitbulls tend to attract the type of owners (not all) who are interested in angry aggressive dogs. I'm sure there are alot of sweet wonderful pitbulls out there and I applaud the responsible owners of them. However, my opinion of them as a breed stands. |
| Ginny,
Don't you mean the people that are attracted to these dogs are usually drug dealers or people doing something illegal? Also people that want to look like they are cool because they have viscious dogs (like Gang members or wanna bes). These are the people that want their dogs to be viscious! Then are also the ones that don't know how to control them. I have also heard about the family pet, who never received anything but love and turns on their family. I know I would never own one.....for my own safety. Even if they seem like the sweetest dogs.... I would never trust one. Besides I also find their looks very unattractive and the drool. |
| In Philly, all kinds of people have pit bulls -- from the young criminals, tough dudes, small children, to innocent seeming young women who seem to have no idea that their dog could possibly be at all dangerous. I see at least 5 every day at my dog park.
Recently, two children (maybe 9 and 13) showed up at the park with their incredibly emaciated pitbull. They untied her rope -- she stood around nervously (hungry). Seeing children with a starving dog made me a bit uncomfortable (does she have shots, etc.) so I started talking to them about her. They just got her that day from the guy on 27th street (??) but they knew she was good with dogs and people. How'd they know? Because he was 13 and he just knew it. That made me nervous so I left. This weekend there was a tough guy cop visiting his son from his place in the mountains/woods where he lives, hunts etc. and he had the nicest, gentlest, most easy going, pit bull I've ever seen. She seemed really balanced and clearly got tons of exercise. I wasn't even scared when she came up on the bench I was sharing with her owner -- she wanted to cuddle with her daddy. Last night, there was a overexcited, playful annoying pit puppy. Her owner was watching carefully to make sure nothing went too far, but it made me nervous. Sadly, some of the meanest, most aggressive dogs at our park at the boxers. That used to be such a sweet breed. I've seen many that are just awful recently. Real troublemakers. I wonder if the breed reputation will change. |
| Recently here in the paper a young girl was mauled by a pit bull. This was not some stiches or anything like that. I think the girl was around 4 - 6 years old. The dog was owned by her aunt. The poor kid has to have her face reconstructed because of it. Luckily her older brother who I think was about 9 or 10 years old was there when it happened and came to her rescue by kicking the crap out of that dog so she could run away. AND LUCKILY he was not hurt. Obviously an adult was not doing thier job and had left the kids alone near the dog. Still i can understand a dog wanting to NIP at a child for some reason but this dog would of killed her if her brother weren't there.
Our children should mean more than owning any breed of dog let alone one who is known for its aggressive behavior. I never hear of any other breeds doing this to people. Let me know if I am wrong??? This is why people here are required to carry insurance on this breed. |
| My son had a pit for awhile, and while Sable was a very well behaved dog who listened she still made me nervous. She loved to give kisses but I would never let her near my face. |
| Well, I am not a drug dealer or any other stereotype referred to in previous posts. I am a woman, married with two beautiful boys; both my husband and myself have great jobs. We live in a beautiful home in an upper class community. I drive a new car, I have a sheepdog and I have a pit bull mix (with chow).
I also am not naive to the two breeds in which she is mixed however, she is an incredible girl. I can put my whole heart into the phrase, “she wouldn't hurt a fly”. I have posted her story in previous posts but the short story is this: We rescued Kiara at 7 weeks old. When we first laid eyes on this girl the first thing noticed was the wounds on her. She, at 7 weeks, had already been a victim to someone’s abuse, she was missing fur in circular shapes on her ears (from cigarette burns) she was spayed in a manner that looked as though she was processed through a chop shop. She had such a look of pity and despair in her eyes…there was not choice to be made, she was coming home with us. Kiara was rescued as my husbands dog (I had a German Shepard at the time) she wouldn’t leave his side (despite the fact that she was abuse by a male) she lost that look of terror in her eyes, went through adolescence quit terribly. There wasn’t anything in our home that wasn’t touched and destroyed from newspaper to pulling up a full hallway carpet & shredding it. (My fault, she should have been crated.) When Ki was 3yrs old I found out I was going to have a baby, it seems she knew before we did, as the once daddy’s girl would then not leave my side. She would lay beside me with her head on my belly 75% of the pregnancy. In those nine months she was reformed, she no longer destroyed everything; she took on the role of “momma”, which is now her nickname. It was time to have the baby, so we did, when we got back from the hospital, we put the baby in the bassinet, then let Kid out of her crate for lovins & introduction. Well, forget mom & dad, she went straight to the bassinet, stood on her hind legs, peeked in on the baby, lightly kissed him and then laid under the bassinet, and that is where she has been for the past 4 years. Anywhere that my kids are, she is. Keeping watch & protecting. If the kids are hurt or crying, she will tell me, she will wimpier & pace until I reach the kids. There is no regret or doubt in my mind or heart that adopting Ki was a beautiful decision. We rescued her but in many ways over the years she has rescued all of us. So, I know Kiara is mixed, but she is mixed with another known “aggressive” breed and it doesn’t make it any better, but I truly believe that these breeds are misunderstood due to there mistreatment and lack of positive training by there people over the years. They take a lot of time and patience and understanding, same as with any other breed, to develop them into a “good dog”…however it is entirely possible. I would strongly urge anyone who is looking to adopt/rescue/purchase this breed to do his or her homework. Know the background of the animal, know the parents, grandparents, and make sure the breeder is a reputable one. Make sure that you have plenty of time for obedience and manners training, and then more and more time to daily reiterate the training. Make sure! Do the homework!! And, no matter the breed, no matter how much you may trust, never leave a child unattended with any animal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Additionally, I also have two separate friends who have family of pit bulls and they say the same as I. They to are from the same background as I am, not stereotypes.) |
| Rebecca,
I was stating that the majority of these dogs are owned by the stereotype people I had listed.... And that these were the people that wanted aggressive dogs. I would also say that the majority of these dogs that end up in the shelters are from this same backgrounds.... and these people just don't care about taking proper care of their dogs. I was not saying they are soley owned by those people. That would be pretty stupid to say. |
Pepsi's Mommy wrote: Rebecca,
I was stating that the majority of these dogs are owned by the stereotype people I had listed.... And that these were the people that wanted aggressive dogs. I would also say that the majority of these dogs that end up in the shelters are from this same backgrounds.... and these people just don't care about taking proper care of their dogs. I was not saying they are soley owned by those people. That would be pretty stupid to say. Same here. Generalizations are by definition general in nature. Any general group has distinct individuals that don't fit the general description. There are certainly some good owners of balanced pitbulls. But I personally would never choose to have one and will always be somewhat nervous around them because of the risk that the particular dog is not balanced and/or the owner could be clueless. |
I wouldn't choose to have one either. Many military wives at every post I've been to have them along with TINY tiny kids/infants for protection while their husbands are away. While the concept is nice... mr. j and I always cringe. From what we've seen... the dogs become just that. .....extremely protective over the family (which of course is a good thing) and then SNAP!!!!! Someone innocently gets too close and is mauled. Dog is then put down.  |
| Also, it's not just the stereotypical people that have them. The man who had the dog that attacked mine was, as noted, white, well dressed and well spoken. The problem was he was clueless.
So stereotypes of people are not the issue here, the issue is EDUCATION. As I said before, you tell people something enough times they are bound to believe it. If I hammer it into your head that this breed is sweet and calm and even tempered, you'll believe it. It's the same reason that a song heard enough times on the radio becomes popular, it's mere repeated exposure. People need to be told that this breed has the POTENTIAL to be sweet and beautiful if the people who have them do the correct things to make them that way. If they go untrained they will react with the instinct that has been bred into them over the years. I have seen many cases of well trained, well loved, well behaved pits. They are far outnumbered by the cases of harmful, mean, malicious pits out there. It is up to the parent club to do the appropriate work to fix this. |
Maxmm wrote: People need to be told that this breed has the POTENTIAL to be sweet and beautiful if the people who have them do the correct things to make them that way. If they go untrained they will react with the instinct that has been bred into them over the years.
I have seen many cases of well trained, well loved, well behaved pits. They are far outnumbered by the cases of harmful, mean, malicious pits out there. It is up to the parent club to do the appropriate work to fix this. I agree and that is my point with my story of Kiara. She could have turn out the total opposite had she gone to another home with ill intention people. Thankfully for us all, she is with us. And again I reiterate, consistant, positive training & respect is key in making a "good" dog/pitbull. I take no offense to the previous posts and apologize if it sounded as if I did. I too, meant no harm. 
I just truly feel...just as much as some want to make these "agressive breeds" out to be awful.......they need to be recognized as the breed that they were originally breed for. It is not soley their fault that they have become aggressive, humans play a great part. And it is ashame that "we" cause such damage to a breed and then blame them. Here's to you Kiara!  |
| I agree that pitbulls are not to be taken lightly. My neighbor's daughter who is a behaviorist with mentally challenged children, got a pitbull as a puppy from someone she knew, and she is amazingly well trained and sweet.
I don't think I would ever rescue an adult pitbull, especially not knowing where it came from. I think it is a breed that can be great dogs with the right people, but the wrong people have ruined the breed. You can't blame the public for being fearful/cautious. There are too many horrific stories and it is so sad that it has become to be what it is. |
| Everyone has a comment about pitbulls. I have a year and a half old pitbull, which has been the best. He has not had one aggressive tendency. Except going after squirrel and rabbitt. If you don't teach a dog aggression there will be non towards humans. I've had several types of dogs my entire life and I can say that. My dog has been the best dog period. |
| There is currently a 12 yr old little boy here in Baton Rouge that last weekend was out walking with his friend. 4 total non-agressive pit bulls that have never bitten nor acted agressive attacked him. He has had 3 surgeries so far trying to repair the damage to his leg (the muscles, nerves, and tendons). He is scheduled to have another surgery this week and after the surgeries are over faces months of rehab.
You may have faith in your dog, but for this little boy and for me - I don't trust pit bulls by this is only my opinion. |
| I live in a neighborhood full of college students, as well as young families, older families and empty nesters. Soon after we brought home Sophie and Sherman, a nice young man stopped his car and came out to see if he could meet our puppies and let his puppy pit bull meet ours. His puppy was about a month older than ours, and so of course we said yes. His puppy has never been anything other than delightful with us or our dogs, including Merlin. Once this young man brought over a very tiny, tiny dog of what breed, I'm not sure, but it would fit in the palm of my hand. This dog was a playmate of the pitbull and after getting used to 3 huge sheepies (even though the puppies were only about 5 months at the time), held its own against a mob of huge (to it) dogs. No agression towards this small dog, nor protectiveness of it, either. We could all approach any of the dogs without concern. So far, so good.
This young man was making a strong effort to raise his dog correctly, went to the same puppy classes we did, asked our advice about vets, etc. The one thing I wasn't happy about was he hadn't neutered his dog, because his dog had unusual/highly prized markings/colorings and a very, very sweet disposition. He was considering breeding him. BUT as time went on, and we had many more play dates, it turns out that at home, this pitbull could be agressive towards other male humans. He lived in a college student house with about 5 other guys, all of whom were wonderful to the pitbull. Anyone else? Agressive. Owner was working one on one with animal behaviorist/trainer, trying to eliminate or at least control agression. Trying to be very responsible (yet leaving dog intact). Owner dropped by with dog, we were chatting one evening outside in our yard. His dog had never shown the smallest agression towards me, my daughter (19), my sons (21, 24) or my husband. My son's friend, 20, stopped by to say hi. He was chatting, and we cautioned him that the pitbull was nervous around strange males. Pitbull seemed fine until my son's friend extended his hand gently, after about 10 minutes of quiet chatting with us and owner, for the pitbull to sniff. Pitbull went for the hand, fortunately missing. Owner calmed him down, apologized. I had treats in my pocket and let my son's friend hand them out. He isn't able to have a dog and really loves them, so he visits a lot and helps with walks, etc. He offered treats to my crew and the pit--who again, went for his hand. Not actually making contact, but for no reason that any of us could tell, and despite living with a group of young men about the same age as the one he attacked (and apparently liked to attack) , he still went for this sweet, very gentle and mild mannered 20 year old. Last I knew (and it's been a while with winter, and all), the owner was still deciding whether or not to neuter. Sigh. I know there are nice pitbulls. I simply am not convinced that there isn't enough unreliability in the genetic background of most in the US to make them not a reliable breed. I would be very worried about having one. I applaud owners who are concientious and careful about their breeding and training of these powerful dogs. I agree about boxers today, too. I've run into a couple who were crazy/agressive, to the point where I actually moved for fear that the one next door would leap the fence and kill one of my children. Also, there used to be a large standard poodle in the neighborhood who would leave its yard to try to attack my first OES if we walked in his neighborhood, which, unfortunately, was mine. Not the typical standard poodle behavior, I know. But never say never. |
BatonRougeSheepies wrote: There is currently a 12 yr old little boy here in Baton Rouge that last weekend was out walking with his friend. 4 total non-agressive pit bulls that have never bitten nor acted agressive attacked him. He has had 3 surgeries so far trying to repair the damage to his leg (the muscles, nerves, and tendons). He is scheduled to have another surgery this week and after the surgeries are over faces months of rehab.
You may have faith in your dog, but for this little boy and for me - I don't trust pit bulls by this is only my opinion. Why were 4 dogs running loose? Did they belong to someone or were they strays? |
ButtersStotch wrote: BatonRougeSheepies wrote: There is currently a 12 yr old little boy here in Baton Rouge that last weekend was out walking with his friend. 4 total non-agressive pit bulls that have never bitten nor acted agressive attacked him. He has had 3 surgeries so far trying to repair the damage to his leg (the muscles, nerves, and tendons). He is scheduled to have another surgery this week and after the surgeries are over faces months of rehab. You may have faith in your dog, but for this little boy and for me - I don't trust pit bulls by this is only my opinion. Why were 4 dogs running loose? Did they belong to someone or were they strays? Even if they belonged to someone, that pack mentality is just one more thing that can provoke aggression.  |
| Apparently they had knocked a fence board loose from the privacy fence of the backyard where they were being kept and got loose. |
| My rescue just took in their first pitbull yesterday (with my urging) and I am just in love with this girl. She's a year old and I placed her in a foster home with a 10 year old boy and another dog. I told them the same thing I tell every foster home- don't leave the dog unattended with kids or other dogs. I have absolutely no worries when it comes to this dog, and I would place her in a home with older children. (Which is something I can't say for some of our labs and my OES.) |
| I CANT BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE. YOU PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT. "EWW PITBULLS THEY"LL MAUL YOUR FACE OFF" YOU BUNCH SOUND LIKE A 1940's HORROR MOVIE.
MY POINT IS PITBULLS ARE JUST LIKE YOU LAB, JUST LIKE CHOWS, JUST LIKE BEAGALS. THEY ARE YOUR BEST FRIEND, THEY CUDDLE WITH YOU WHEN YOU SLEEP, JUMP WITH JOY WHEN YOU GET HOME. THERE AWESOME. MY PITBULLS, DOJA AND INDICA ARE MY BABIES. THEY ARE MY FAMILY. THEY LOVE ME NO MATTER WHAT. I WOULD NEVER SAY HURTFUL THINGS ABOUT YOU LAB OR WHATEVER BIG SMALL BREED YOU HAVE. ALL YOU PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE "HEARD OR READ ABOUT" NOTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THE VICTOM TO. YOU DO NOTHING BUT SPREAD BS AND RUMERS. YOU SAY THE PHYSICAL LOOKS ARE MEANT TO "MAUL" AND FOR THAT I SAY, YES GOD PUT PITBULLS ON THE EARTH TO "MAUL" SMALL CHILDREN. PITBULLS CAUGHT A BAD REP BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA, KINDA LIKE AFERICAN AMERICANS. IT TOOK 50YRS FOR AMERICA TO RELIZE SEGRAGATION WAS WRONG, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE AMERICA TO RELIEZE THAT PITBULLS ARE JUST LIKE EVERYOTHER SPECIES, LIKE HUMANS, SOME JUST GO CRAZY. THIS CRAZYNESS HAPPENS IN "ALL" CREATURES. AND FOR SOME STATICTICS FOR YOU !@#$%^&. OUT OF THE 800 VICTOMS( IN SERIOUS DOG BITS) PITBULLS MAKE UP ONLY 4%. THATS NOT A LOT. THE HIGHEST DOG ON THE LIST IS A DOVERMIN PINTURE. |
Maxmm wrote: I used to do work with the humane society and around here 90% of the dogs that came in were pits. I was also very, very vocal with the push that came for pits not to be judged by the few bad cases that have been so widely published.
That being said, my dog was attacked by a pit bull and do you know what it's owner said? My dog would never do a thing like that! GUESS WHAT, it did! The biggest thing with this whole issue is EDUCATION. Telling people that they are loving and sweet dogs is tantamount to propaganda in my book. These dogs were bred for a single purpose, when all else fails, instinct kicks in and takes over. They physically have a jaw that locks and a flat nose so that they can maul and they can fight. If people who own this breed want it to survive they need to stop praising how inherently wonderful they are and start teaching the people who adopt them to train them and control them. They need to know what these dogs are capable of and what to do if they are in a situation where there is a problem. When my dog was attacked, the owner (white male, nicer clothes, spoke well) had no idea what a release word was and had never trained his dog at all. Oh and by the way, his dog was unneutered too but we won't address that now. He also stood there and whimpered while it was going on. You want to have this breed fine but if the fanciers want it to prosper they are going to have to do something about the yahoos out there that are getting these dogs. Yup, none of us has ever had personal experience with this breed attacking or being vicious. The above was copied from the 4th post on this thread!!! Read all of the information given before you come on here ranting in all caps with poor spelling and grammar. When you are reading the information that we have posted, maybe you should note that we are saying that this breed has been destroyed by uneducated humans who handle them improperly. And if you choose to use profanity on our forum, you could at least have the courtesy to site the sources for your statistics. |
| I have a friend that has one in Colorado and he is great. Does not have a mean bone in his body. He well mannered, well socialized, etc. We all know some aren't. Some of these animals have fallen into the wrong hands just as some sheepies have bad owners. Not sure what this guest was going after with her post. We all know what she stated with the exception of her past. |
| 12 years ago i was walkiing my girl shelby sunday 6am and all of a sudden my neighbor opened up his gargage and 2 pit bulls came running towards my young sweet girl she jumped in front of me to save me .. they got my shelby at only 1 year old she was never the same if it was not for her i would not be alive.. we made the front pages since the only way the pit bull would let go of my poor girl was to shot the dog.. sorry to this day my fear will remain!! |
DJ PUDDLES wrote: I CANT BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE. YOU PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT. "EWW PITBULLS THEY"LL MAUL YOUR FACE OFF" YOU BUNCH SOUND LIKE A 1940's HORROR MOVIE.
MY POINT IS PITBULLS ARE JUST LIKE YOU LAB, JUST LIKE CHOWS, JUST LIKE BEAGALS. THEY ARE YOUR BEST FRIEND, THEY CUDDLE WITH YOU WHEN YOU SLEEP, JUMP WITH JOY WHEN YOU GET HOME. THERE AWESOME. MY PITBULLS, DOJA AND INDICA ARE MY BABIES. THEY ARE MY FAMILY. THEY LOVE ME NO MATTER WHAT. I WOULD NEVER SAY HURTFUL THINGS ABOUT YOU LAB OR WHATEVER BIG SMALL BREED YOU HAVE. ALL YOU PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE "HEARD OR READ ABOUT" NOTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THE VICTOM TO. YOU DO NOTHING BUT SPREAD BS AND RUMERS. YOU SAY THE PHYSICAL LOOKS ARE MEANT TO "MAUL" AND FOR THAT I SAY, YES GOD PUT PITBULLS ON THE EARTH TO "MAUL" SMALL CHILDREN. PITBULLS CAUGHT A BAD REP BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA, KINDA LIKE AFERICAN AMERICANS. IT TOOK 50YRS FOR AMERICA TO RELIZE SEGRAGATION WAS WRONG, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE AMERICA TO RELIEZE THAT PITBULLS ARE JUST LIKE EVERYOTHER SPECIES, LIKE HUMANS, SOME JUST GO CRAZY. THIS CRAZYNESS HAPPENS IN "ALL" CREATURES. AND FOR SOME STATICTICS FOR YOU ASSHOLES. OUT OF THE 800 VICTOMS( IN SERIOUS DOG BITS) PITBULLS MAKE UP ONLY 4%. THATS NOT A LOT. THE HIGHEST DOG ON THE LIST IS A DOVERMIN PINTURE. Way to score points! I feel sorry for your dogs if you are the raving lunatic you sound like here  . Also I'm curious, who said the physical looks are meant to maul? Could it be YOU are the only idiot here? |
DJ PUDDLES wrote: I CANT BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE. YOU PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT. "EWW PITBULLS THEY"LL MAUL YOUR FACE OFF" YOU BUNCH SOUND LIKE A 1940's HORROR MOVIE.
MY POINT IS PITBULLS ARE JUST LIKE YOU LAB, JUST LIKE CHOWS, JUST LIKE BEAGALS. THEY ARE YOUR BEST FRIEND, THEY CUDDLE WITH YOU WHEN YOU SLEEP, JUMP WITH JOY WHEN YOU GET HOME. THERE AWESOME. MY PITBULLS, DOJA AND INDICA ARE MY BABIES. THEY ARE MY FAMILY. THEY LOVE ME NO MATTER WHAT. I WOULD NEVER SAY HURTFUL THINGS ABOUT YOU LAB OR WHATEVER BIG SMALL BREED YOU HAVE. ALL YOU PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE "HEARD OR READ ABOUT" NOTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THE VICTOM TO. YOU DO NOTHING BUT SPREAD BS AND RUMERS. YOU SAY THE PHYSICAL LOOKS ARE MEANT TO "MAUL" AND FOR THAT I SAY, YES GOD PUT PITBULLS ON THE EARTH TO "MAUL" SMALL CHILDREN. PITBULLS CAUGHT A BAD REP BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA, KINDA LIKE AFERICAN AMERICANS. IT TOOK 50YRS FOR AMERICA TO RELIZE SEGRAGATION WAS WRONG, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE AMERICA TO RELIEZE THAT PITBULLS ARE JUST LIKE EVERYOTHER SPECIES, LIKE HUMANS, SOME JUST GO CRAZY. THIS CRAZYNESS HAPPENS IN "ALL" CREATURES. AND FOR SOME STATICTICS FOR YOU !@#$%^&. OUT OF THE 800 VICTOMS( IN SERIOUS DOG BITS) PITBULLS MAKE UP ONLY 4%. THATS NOT A LOT. THE HIGHEST DOG ON THE LIST IS A DOVERMIN PINTURE. I don't get it? Where's the punchline? It's got to be a joke because no one could possibly sound that ignorant for real. It takes work to misspell that many words and somehow find a way to drop a race card into an "argument" about owning a dog. Although my fear of the "Dovermin Pinture" has been severely heightened, lol. |
| The Dovermin Pinture must be a designer breed. You know, one of those Big Small Breeds that they were ranting about earlier. |
| My issue with Pit Bulls AND the other varieties of those types of dogs is solely based on their stability. There are definitely loving wonderful Pits out there - I have a neighbor who had one of the best (who has since passed). But, they're not a stable breed, and they "snap". Just like chows, cocker spaniels and several other breeds, the major difference being the power behind those jaws. Cockers and poodles attack more often statistically, but they don't have the power to KILL and MAME the way Pits do.
I would not personally choose to have any of those breeds in my home solely because the breeds stability of temperament is critical in my opinion. I would never want to take on the liability that comes with owning those breeds. That Pit I mentioned earlier...he was so sweet, and so trustworthy. But even so, as he aged and couldn't see as well anymore, it got to be concerning because he couldn't recognize people as they came up and he'd start to snarl and snap when he never used to. A person - or heaven forbid a child could have easily startled him and it would have been an awful situation. |
Maxmm wrote: The Dovermin Pinture must be a designer breed. You know, one of those Big Small Breeds that they were ranting about earlier.
I'm still scared, I don't want to be a VICTOM. |
| I live in a neighborhood with more pitbulls than I could ever count. I see them with their owners walking down the street. The dogs collar and leash usually are very thick heavy duty chains with the collar part secured with a very oversized padlock. When I brought my first OES home I couldn't wait to take long walks with him everyday. I now own 3 OES and I will never walk my dream dogs in my "hood" ever!!!! I drive about 15 minutes from home to a less dog aggressive area to walk my sweet hearts. I've known of several people and dogs that have been brutally attacked by pitbulls. It doesn't even matter to me why these dogs are so aggressive, They ARE!!! I understand some folks have sweet pitbulls that may never attack or bite anyone, but all the bad pits that do attack give Pitbulls the reputation that everyone fears. |
Maxmm wrote: The Dovermin Pinture must be a designer breed. You know, one of those Big Small Breeds that they were ranting about earlier.
I heard they are all the rage in Europe, maybe the AKC will recognize them soon. |
| I RELIEZE that there is a possibility of any of us being VICTOMS but that's just CRAZYNESS!! |
DJ PUDDLES wrote: I CANT BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE. YOU PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT. "EWW PITBULLS THEY"LL MAUL YOUR FACE OFF" YOU BUNCH SOUND LIKE A 1940's HORROR MOVIE.
MY POINT IS PITBULLS ARE JUST LIKE YOU LAB, JUST LIKE CHOWS, JUST LIKE BEAGALS. THEY ARE YOUR BEST FRIEND, THEY CUDDLE WITH YOU WHEN YOU SLEEP, JUMP WITH JOY WHEN YOU GET HOME. THERE AWESOME. MY PITBULLS, DOJA AND INDICA ARE MY BABIES. THEY ARE MY FAMILY. THEY LOVE ME NO MATTER WHAT. I WOULD NEVER SAY HURTFUL THINGS ABOUT YOU LAB OR WHATEVER BIG SMALL BREED YOU HAVE. ALL YOU PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE "HEARD OR READ ABOUT" NOTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THE VICTOM TO. YOU DO NOTHING BUT SPREAD BS AND RUMERS. YOU SAY THE PHYSICAL LOOKS ARE MEANT TO "MAUL" AND FOR THAT I SAY, YES GOD PUT PITBULLS ON THE EARTH TO "MAUL" SMALL CHILDREN. PITBULLS CAUGHT A BAD REP BECAUSE OF THE MEDIA, KINDA LIKE AFERICAN AMERICANS. IT TOOK 50YRS FOR AMERICA TO RELIZE SEGRAGATION WAS WRONG, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE AMERICA TO RELIEZE THAT PITBULLS ARE JUST LIKE EVERYOTHER SPECIES, LIKE HUMANS, SOME JUST GO CRAZY. THIS CRAZYNESS HAPPENS IN "ALL" CREATURES. AND FOR SOME STATICTICS FOR YOU !@#$%^&. OUT OF THE 800 VICTOMS( IN SERIOUS DOG BITS) PITBULLS MAKE UP ONLY 4%. THATS NOT A LOT. THE HIGHEST DOG ON THE LIST IS A DOVERMIN PINTURE. What's a "DOVERMIN PINTURE" ?????  |
| Has anyone figured out why this post was started in the first place? |
Quote: I don't get it? Where's the punchline? It's got to be a joke because no one could possibly sound that ignorant for real. It takes work to misspell that many words and somehow find a way to drop a race card into an "argument" about owning a dog.
My thoughts EXACTALLY!!!!!!!!!! |
Tasker's Mom wrote: What's a "DOVERMIN PINTURE" ?????
I believe I answered that a couple of posts back!!!!  |
A friend of mine and I were dying over this ad we found on Facebook the other day. If you can't read it, click on my camera because it's important to read the text. I think it's a cousin of the Dovermin.
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DOBSON  , I thought that was something used for fishing bait. |
| It's not just any DOBSON, it a FELAME one. |
ButtersStotch wrote: It's not just any DOBSON, it a FELAME one.
Wow...those are rare |
| Oh, that was too funny. Actually made me giggle at my desk. Jill, you should buy it--those are SUPER rare dogs... |
Oh good grief.  Seriously people - learn to use spell check!!! |
| FELAME?....... is that some kind of cross dresser????? |
| It's a dyslexic cross dresser, a guy that dresses like a guy and vice versa! |
Tasker's Mom wrote: FELAME?....... is that some kind of cross dresser?????
It kept reminding me of Gold Lame... |
| I think all of you have overlooked that, luckily, the dog doesn't have RABBIES. |
I think Rabbies are cute 
I must say however, it is refreshing to find someone who types AND spells worse than I do  |
| Jill!!!!!! Wayyyy toooo Funnyeeeee!!!!!! |
| Can't seem to figure out either why this discussion had started,except she has a sheepie too.Look at her pics,not a typical pitbull,big time mix!
That being said, MY SON AT 5YEARS OLD GOT ATTACKED BY A 17 MONTH OLD PITBULL! LUCKILY THE PIT WAS YOUNG AND HIS 17 YEAR OLD OWNER CALLED HIM OFF OF MY SON,WHO IS NOW 11 YEARS OLD. THE PIT DID DO PERMANENT DAMAGE TO HIS FIBILIA AND THE SURROUNDING TISSUE,NOT TO MENTION EVERY DOG HE SEES THAT RESEMBLES THIS BREED,SHAKES HIM UP.MY SON ALSO STILL WILL NOT SLEEP ALONE IN HIS BEDROOM. ENOUGH SAID FROM ME! |
| What kind of shots do you get for a Rabbi?
Who owns the shots given to the Rabbi? They are the Rabbies shots of course! I just saw a court show on TV where the pit bull latched onto the plaintiff's bull's face and wouldn't let go. The Bailiff was explaining that the pit bull was bred to do exactly that, they grab the snout and curl up around the snout of the bull and hang on while the bull thrashes him to the ground and walls or whatever, until one or the other dies as a form of entertainment. |
| You guys crack me up!
Dovermin Pintures and Dobsons are from Gormenie, FCI recognizes them as one of the oldest breeds in Europe.
By the way, I was badly attacked by a Lame Dobson when I was about 3. So, felames are much calmer and better than lames. |
Prof. Boni wrote: :lol:
You guys crack me up! Dovermin Pintures and Dobsons are from Gormenie, FCI recognizes them as one of the oldest breeds in Europe. By the way, I was badly attacked by a Lame Dobson when I was about 3. So, felames are much calmer and better than lames. |
| I needed a laugh today and well here it is
Where did this post come from??? |
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