Unbelievable Inlaws
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| Sounds just like my inlaws. They are really just weird people. It is so frustrating to have to deal with them at all, I can't stand them.
You have ALL my sympathy. {self-edited to remove abnormally long rant LOL I got carried away} |
Welcome to the club....my M I L told me that my ring was guady and why did I wear white  (it WAS my first wedding)...they ended up NOT even coming to our wedding........ |
| Mmmm the old "You can choose your friends, BUT, you can't pick your family".
We had the same problems with in-laws, have not seen them in years as being in our 40's just got fed up with everything and time to move on and live our own lives. Feel for my husband but it was his decision too. I say tell them NO as the money was from the grandpa for your husband and the wedding is already budgeted for by you with all the expense you are having there with gifts, showers, dress and tux etc. IN-LAWS Suck!! IMO  |
| AMEN Lisa! |
| Yeah but almost everyone is eventually someone's inlaws.... LOL Hmmmmm
When my kids get married I will try really hard not to make their spouses feel this way. I've said that for years... however, my daughter has just begun dating, and so far, I hate it. |
| Just curious -- did they ask the daughter getting married to contribute a portion of her gift? |
Valerie wrote: Just curious -- did they ask the daughter getting married to contribute a portion of her gift?
Based on this letter, it doesn't sound like it or the parents don't trust them to give to them. The daughter was supposed to graduate college this month, but called to say she was one class short. Her fiancee has been in and out of college and is a deadbeat. The last I heard he was delivering pizzas. |
| I'd ignore it like I never even saw it. That's ridiculous. |
ButtersStotch wrote: I'd ignore it like I never even saw it. That's ridiculous.
Steve plans to talk to his sister and decide if they will say anything or not. If they don't comply with the letter (NOT) or say anything about it, the wrath of the MIL will be even worse. They've always been enablers and let her behave however she wants and noone says anything. Totally blows my mind |
Yeah I like the ignoring idea..just to pi$$ the MIL off 
Seriously tho, I have the best inlaws in the world, grandparents however they fall short for my kids. But they totally leave us alone, and it bothers me they don;t call or want to see the kids. They are separated as well...very busy with their own lives making ends meet. My parents, also divorced...leave us completely alone and don;t bother with my kids either. Sometimes I wish we had interfering MIL stories, might make us feel like they care a little bit. Good luck with getting hubby to stand his ground and say how ridiculous this idea is...he should enjoy the gift within his own marriatal family. |
| Not that it is any of my business, how is it that
Grandfather did not send the gifts directly to his grandchildren? Personally, I would be so upset with the situation I would take the money and send it to a favorite medical charity for children. I would then write a letter telling Grandfather thank you and that I sent it to the medical charity for children in honor of this wonderful family and the wedding event. I would ignore the request for the $250. Better have a team of EMTs standing by when this news starts to get around. "They did what with the money..."
In my personal opinion, its no gift if it arrives with an agenda. |
Stacy wrote: ButtersStotch wrote: I'd ignore it like I never even saw it. That's ridiculous. Steve plans to talk to his sister and decide if they will say anything or not. If they don't comply with the letter (NOT) or say anything about it, the wrath of the MIL will be even worse. They've always been enablers and let her behave however she wants and noone says anything. Totally blows my mind See above post! Just wait until Grandfather calls her! Its just not elegant to be angry when someone honors the family with a donation  |
| I Can SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Sympathize about rotten in-laws. Not my mother-in-law who is a love....The monster is the Father-In-Law. When we first moved in together he told Joe to chose between them and me, that I was lower than white trash (I was a divorced mom w/2 kids.). Of course that was all said with that ritzy upper class British accent. My husband who is an only child, told his father he chose me. When they visit I go visit some of my family or my husband goes and visits them by himself. P.S. We have now been together for 12 years.
I would pretend like I didn't see the letter. I certainly wouldn't give them the $. |
| If Steve's grandfather intended the money to go toward the wedding he would have sent it to them. A gift is not a gift if there are stings attached I say blow the whole on something you've always wanted and enjoy it! |
| I would be LIVID!! What nerve!!
I would also totally ignore the letter. It is not your job to help pay for her wedding. If they want help they should ask the grooms parents. My Ex-MIL was the biggest witch! She called herself Big Bad Mama. She had maybe 5 teeth of her own and was a forum in a warehouse. Real feminine....NOT!! She hated me from day one. She even had the nerve to say to me after I miscarriaged that Todd & I weren't meant to have kids... Even though she also miscarried. Todd's new girlfriend who just happens to be named Elissa too...(but spelled Elisa) is her buddy. Big Bad Mama adores her and even goes shopping with her. She also has no problem saying her name...but called me toots because she could not pronouce my name correctly and called me Halise... Ok there is no H in my name. It swear it was to piss me off. But she did also threaten the new Elisa and told her if she hurt her son she would hunt her down and kill her. She made some wonderful threats to me after I left Todd. Including calling CPS and using a picture of Ryan when he fell down the stairs and was going to blame it on me.... When it was Todd that was watching him when it happened and I was on crutches. Luckily this time around I have a great MIL....a ditz but good. She even promised before Billy & I got married that she wouldn't be a typical medeling MIL.... and she has kept to her word. |
| If this gift came from grandfather via father, why didn't he just gift
x $ to his own son? Sounds to me like either grandfather doesn't know, doesn't approve or father is actually controlling the finances. Maybe it was done like this to avoid questions from other family in the future? Money makes families crazy, no matter the amount. I would ask grandfather what he intended, and then tell the father demanding money to pound sand, but that's just me. Obviously you can't go against your husband's wishes. Someone should tell father ( and MIL!) the kind of headache this is causing too! Shellie |
| Thank you all for your emotionally charged responses. Sounds like a lot of people have difficult inlaws. Steve and I spoke more about this tonight. He didn't share the info with me yesterday because I have a terrible virus and wasn't in the mood. He knew how pissed I'd be.
We are almost positive that Grandpa has contributed a huge chunk of change to my inlaws for the wedding. He did for our wedding as my inlaws claimed they couldn't afford anything. Grandpa has always helped them out as my inlaws seemed to have financial problems stemming from having 4 children and insisting they all go to private Catholic schools. Grandpa has apparently done very well with his investments and claims he's always doing "paperwork". That is usually the reason he gives for not wanting to come visit (he lives in Ohio). The more likely reason...he can't stand my MIL. He also was a military pilot who doesn't share much of his "secret" past life. It sounds like he did film drops into the middle of the ocean. It is only within the past few years that he has even shown a remote interest in his grandchildren. He didn't come to he weddings of the first two, so it only makes sense he doesn't come to this one. It's been during the past few years after he had a horrible infection that he started sending large checks to my FIL to give to the kids. He writes them out and my FIL comes up with a "creative" way to give them to us. Steve and I started going through the list of expenses we have going towards this wedding. As we are staying in a hotel for 2 nights and having a dog sitter come to the house, I've determined we are already spending $600 and that doesn't include a wedding gift. So basically our gift from Grandpa will amount to $200. Steve plans to speak with his sister about her reaction and will talk to his parents. |
| Maybe Grandpa would like the happy couple to get really nice gifts from everyone, but doesn't want everyone to have to spend a lot of money.
It's hard to express in writing what I'm trying to get across -- but since he's giving a large amount of money and asking people how to spend some of it, perhaps you could just look at it as a $750 gift for you and a $250 gift for the couple. Really nice gifts from everyone might give a very nice feeling to the couple above and beyond if they got an extra $1000 direct from Gramps. Just a thought. (And I really need a scorecard for this, I'm not even sure who Steve is, how he's realted to whoever is telling this story, and whose granparent gramps is. But I hope I got the gist of it.) |
| Write the check and give it to them with a smile on your face.
Be sure to write "void" all over the check. Place it in an envelope and enclose a copy of the receipts for the items you say you are paying for. In the same envelope, include a note "to Grandpa" to be delivered via "dad" expressing your sincere appreciation for the gift. I think mom and dad will get the message. In laws: Ok, ladies. I'm a MIL. Plain and simple truth is, one woman versus another woman for one man (the son). Although, the versus is usually only one sided. You DIL's are competing against someone (his mother) that is not in competion with you. Sure, we have our opinions, just as you, but, you'd rather not hear them. Words are said that can hurt someone causing their behavior to become NOT what you expected or wanted. But, I ask, how much did you (DIL) contribute to the situation? Perhaps if everyone thinks about it there may be a logical reason why "grandpa" stays away. It may not be that he doesn't like the DIL, it very well could be that the DIL hurt the old man, didn't give him a chance earlier, and now everyone deals with the outcome. Have we as DIL's or MIL's etc., hurt someone to the point that they "feel" unwelcome, so they stay away, and now we're not happy because they stay away? So, what the hell does a DIL REALLY want or expect from a MIL??? Sure wish I knew that answer. One day I'm on the "she's ok list", the next day I'm on the shes a bitch list. None of this is directed at any one individual. JMOP And, life goes on. |
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zahra wrote: Not that it is any of my business, how is it that
Grandfather did not send the gifts directly to his grandchildren? Personally, I would be so upset with the situation I would take the money and send it to a favorite medical charity for children. I would then write a letter telling Grandfather thank you and that I sent it to the medical charity for children in honor of this wonderful family and the wedding event. I would ignore the request for the $250. Better have a team of EMTs standing by when this news starts to get around. "They did what with the money..." In my personal opinion, its no gift if it arrives with an agenda. DID SOMEONE SAY YOU NEED AN EMT??????????????????? At your service
I don't understand why they didn't just send you each $750.00 and send the requested $250 DIRECTLY to the person they wanted to have it!!!!!!!!!!! WIERD WIERD WIERD!!!! |
Tasker's Mom wrote: I don't understand why they didn't just send you each $750.00 and send the requested $250 DIRECTLY to the person they wanted to have it!!!!!!!!!!! WIERD WIERD WIERD!!!!
Grandpa likely sent his son (my FIL) 5 written checks. One for my FIL and the rest for the 4 grandchildren. I'm sure Grandpa intended for each of the 4 grandchildren to keep their complete amount of $1000. It's his son (my FIL) and my MIL that concocted this crazy scheme to get $250 from each of the kids for my SIL's wedding. THEY'RE NUTS! Ron, Steve is my husband. FYI - My MIL told me I was "worldly" when Steve and I decided to buy a condo 6 months before our wedding. So, basically she called me a SLUT! |
Ron wrote: (And I really need a scorecard for this, I'm not even sure who Steve is, how he's realted to whoever is telling this story, and whose granparent gramps is. But I hope I got the gist of it.)
Ron, Steve is my husband. |
Stacy wrote: Tasker's Mom wrote: I don't understand why they didn't just send you each $750.00 and send the requested $250 DIRECTLY to the person they wanted to have it!!!!!!!!!!! WIERD WIERD WIERD!!!! Grandpa likely sent his son (my FIL) 5 written checks. One for my FIL and the rest for the 4 grandchildren. I'm sure Grandpa intended for each of the 4 grandchildren to keep their complete amount of $1000. It's his son (my FIL) and my MIL that concocted this crazy scheme to get $250 from each of the kids for my SIL's wedding. THEY'RE NUTS! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, sorry I got confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tHAT IS EVEN worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'D TELL THEM TO GO SH$T IN A HAT What nerve!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unless they are on the verge of losing their home (in which case they shouldn't be holding the wedding at all), that check was intended for YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND by your Grandfather, NOT THEM!!!!! Does your GF know they are doing this???? |
| In my courses on marriage counselling I was once told that when preparing a couple for marriage, be sure to remind them that when the go to bed there are 6 people in that bed! We certainly found that to be true in our case.
When we announced our engagement to my wife's family, my father in law said something in effect to the following (cleaned up a bit): I respect your decision and will permit you to pick up my daughter at the road in front of the house from now on - but if you ever set foot on my property again I'll kill you. Year's later, threated with a serious illness he reversed his opposition and we became good friends. Yes in-laws can be a challenge. |
| Ugh, you have my sympathy... I totally hate my in-laws... well... except for his dad and step mother. I guess it's horrible that I like his step mom more than I like his real mother... oh well.
I think some of the only people I like in my husband's family... are the ones that aren't related to him lol.
I would keep the money - you are already spending enough on them as it is. |
I vote for keeping all the money, too. If your inlaws can't afford the wedding, that's THEIR problem, not yours.  And what's the worst that can happen if you don't fork over the $250? Your MIL would get so mad that maybe she wouldn't talk to you any more. Problem solved!! |
I would try not to be angry about it. They saw money and felt like asking for it. You can simply say no if you want/need/would enjoy the money more. People can ask for stuff. People can say no. There's no point in fuming about it. I guess I don't see what the big outrage is.  |
Valerie wrote: I would try not to be angry about it. They saw money and felt like asking for it. You can simply say no if you want/need/would enjoy the money more. People can ask for stuff. People can say no. There's no point in fuming about it. I guess I don't see what the big outrage is.
You're so even tempered, Val. You remind me of my cousin, Beckie, who I'm very close with. She always seems to calm me down. I'm just dumbfounded. |
| You guys are making me feel so, so much better about my in laws!!! Other then putting their noses into my wedding where they didn't belong I really don't have any problems with them. I'm not super duper compatible with them, I much more of a quiet (You guys beleive that right... me being quiet?) introspective person, they're much more extraverted rowdy kinda folks. but we all get along fine- and neither MIL (my mom or his) tries to get in the middle of our marriage. Which we greatly appreciate! Hopefully the same will hold true when we start having grandchildren (I hope I hope!!!)
I have sworn to myself that my only words on my children's marriage will be the following: "This is your guys' wedding, do what makes you happy. The only thing I ask is that you invite Mike and I. Let us know if you need any kind of help, financially or otherwise" That's it, nothing else! no you should invite so and so, have blah de blah to eat, Get married at this time, put this on your invitations, wear that dress, get married here NO NO NO! NOT ANY OF MY BUSINESS!!!! good luck with your sitaution Stacy, if it were me I'd write a big thank you note to grandpa for the money, and use it for something significant for the 2 of you. MIL and DIL have no part in it... even asking for a share is super tacky, and demanding a share in the money is so rude as to shake the fundamentals of polite society! (Think in law mafia!) |
| Karen, easier said than done. When your kids get married it is almost as big an event for the parents as for the kids. Maybe bigger because as parents and "been marrieds" you KNOW what they are getting into, they don't have a clue. For me, when my son got married it was HUGE........... I was very good and other than the rehersal dinner I kept my opinions to myself.
Doesn't mean that the parents should interefere but I sometimes think that kids don't realize how big an event it is for their parents as well as themselves. You should have the wedding you want but it's nice if you can include your parents in the process. And it's also nice if the parents can look past their wants and needs for the kids sake. |
| MIL and FIL should consider counting their blessings
instead of dollars.... Ten days before our wedding my FIL died suddenly of a heart attack. So my advice to them is to respect all of their children and guests, and to honor the couple getting married by not being overbearing. The best gift they can give the couple is to have a peaceful joyful wedding.......... Zahra |
Stacy wrote: Valerie wrote: I would try not to be angry about it. They saw money and felt like asking for it. You can simply say no if you want/need/would enjoy the money more. People can ask for stuff. People can say no. There's no point in fuming about it. I guess I don't see what the big outrage is. You're so even tempered, Val. You remind me of my cousin, Beckie, who I'm very close with. She always seems to calm me down. I'm just dumbfounded. I kind of have to be or else I'd be angry all the time. I just learned that my mom's husband is suing my dad's estate so that he can get a share of the money that would otherwise go to my siblings and me. Talk about nerve! But I figure he can try, we'll deal with it, and I just need to make sure my life does not get wrapped up in as much crazy, angry, bitter, greediness as his has been. So be dumbfounded then shrug it off. Otherwise, it just eats away at you and has no consequence or impact on them that do the things they do. |
| Yikes, Val! I'm TOO much of a type A personality for that situation. I'd be ready to KILL!! On what basis does he think he has a right to his wife's ex-husband's money????? And the money wouldn't even be the basis for my anger, just his shear nerve would be! MAN!!! |
Stacy wrote: FYI - My MIL told me I was "worldly" when Steve and I decided to buy a condo 6 months before our wedding. So, basically she called me a SLUT!
LOL! You didn't seem like a slut when I met you, Stacy! Perhaps you left the micro mini skirt and clear high heels home?
Anyone fiscally responsible would have applauded you for investing in real estate as soon as possible. But, it sounds like your in-laws are plagued by constant money problems so it appears that they're not really good with budgeting. I try to stay out of my husband's family situation as much as possible. It's too hard to track who's mad at who, who's talking to who, who you can invite to dinner with who. I'm just nice to everyone and try to be supportive of Tim and keep my opinion to myself. There have been a few times (now, for example) when his family has cost us money that I don't want to spend, and then we negotiate. But there are times that you have to suck it up and do some things you don't want to do just to be the better person and keep the peace. I just try to put positive energy into the universe in the belief that good things will come of it. |
| Keep the money and don't give it to them. For one thing, with the wedding so near, what is the extra $250 x4 going to do for them? In wedding terms, that's not very much money, so it seems they could do without whatever this money is supposedly going for.
When I got married last summer, my parents paid for it. They also told me how much they could and would spend, and that's what happened. I think that if maybe they had said something like, we accidentally underestimated the food cost and are going to be short $725, could you please help out a bit, that might be one thing, but to basically demand part of your gift go to them is just not right. I understand it's hard because it's family and it is never fun to get on the wrong side of family (if you can help it) but this is just not right. I'm going through a touchy family thing right now, too. We had my mom's cousin's husband do my wedding photography, and on top of just receiving the album last week (we were married last July), the pictures suck and are highly unprofessional, and while he gave us a deal on the pricing, he was actually more than we wanted to spend anyways (it started off as a gift, then 6 months later and nearer to the wedding it became half off)... |
| Still pledging to keep my mouth shut... already triple sworn. Even if they get married by a clown (where's marianne?) in a mosquito infested jungle in pink too toos as long as I'm there I'm happy! That's part of growing up and becoming a healthy adult - learning how to deal with big life events on your own... Easier to make the resolves now before I become a mom !!!
I've also planned out my very cool, level minded yet educational sex talk already too... Now somebody remind me of this when my baby starts dating and I'm ready to freak out!
I hope everything turns out ok for you and your in law situation Stacy. in the end, here's hoping your SIL has a beautiful, love filled ceremony, free from the trappings of family politics! |
| I still can;t get over the idea that parents are "willing" to pay for kids wedding.
When I got married, we were totally on our own. Hubby paid for everything wedding needs etc...EVERYTHING, including wedding night, limo, flowers, food, tux, rings, dj, alcohol for loonie bar, rental of hall....we never got a dime from his family. He is the only one married as well. My dad refused when I asked for help...I am an only child, I had to figure out how to buy a wedding a dress and Rob's ring without asking Rob to pay for that as well. I bought a used old dress for $250, and his ring was $300ish...from engagement to wedding it was 3 mths. So in my opinion our families had absolutely NOTHING to say about what or how we handle our wedding, let alone our marriage. So if grandpa has given your husband a gift of money, keep it, spend it, save it do whatever....do not give it to MIL to pay for another siblings wedding. AND wow $250 for a wedding gift is extremely generous considering you don't think it will last. Rob's family...3 brothers, 1 sister, mom and dad all CHIPPED in together and got us a microwave. My dad did give us a gift after the wedding was over $1000...could you imagine what a nicer wedding dress I could have had for that...I was so mad. Lately tho Rob's mom and sister has generously give us $200 for our last anniversary to enjoy a dinner out together. I do love his family, and I feel sometimes I finally have a mom too. |
Can I just say I'm sooo glad I missed out on wedding drama? lol Jason and I were planning a wedding ourselves, paying for it ourselves, but he ended up getting deployed. We did the JOP thing before he left since he was going to be away for 6 months. 
I can't understand why they would expect you guys to help pay for SIL's wedding? It sounds like you're definitely spending enough on the wedding as it is with the hotel, rentals, gift, etc... I'd kindly tell them that I'd like to help out, but the costs of your part of the wedding is putting you in an imposition and you can't afford to help out...or something similar. I've been blessed with great in-laws. We've had our disagreements, but who hasn't? Heck, I ususally spend 2-3 weeks a year with her without my husband. They are like a second set of parents to me.
Now, Jason's dad and step-mom are pretty much non-existant. We maybe see them at Christmas and call them on Father's day. That's about it. Jason tried so hard to have a relationship with his father, but his father blows him off. Jason just got tired of trying. We did invite them to Jake's birthday party - and he said no... Oh well, it's their decision whether they want to be a part of their (ONLY) grandkids life. They call Kenny (step FIL) grandpa anyway, and Jason looks up to him as a dad now. My kiddos have 6 grandparents, 7 great-grandparents, and 2 great-great grandmothers so they're not lacking for grandparents. |
| WOW, definaltley try to smack some sense into your husband and his sister, u absolutley don't need to do anything more than what ur already doing.Which is ALOT
Man i fell bad for eveybody that has sucky inlaws, my future inlaws are amazing. I know, this is a sad statement, but i prefer them to my actuall parents!!! Shannon |
| NOW I get it.... At first I read that gramps asked for the money to be given to the siblings, now I see that it was the father asking that gramp's money be given to the father for the sibling's wedding expenses.
Sometimes it just takes me a while. If dad needs the money so badly that he's asking his kids for it, I might be inclined to give it to him..... (Or did I miss something again?) Did he help out with the expenses for your (and Steve's) wedding? |
| Sorry to hear about family troubles. I have a SIL that I despise. She's completely negative and plays the martyr role to a tee. She's done some really evil things towards my husband and unfortunately their relationship is dead. I try to just think to myself that some people are just made to be this way, but unfortunately other people around them have to suffer from their actions (like her 2 daughters). It's really sad. |
| All these crazy stories!!! There's no way I can sit back with this stuff and stay quiet. The family enables the parents to behave this way and it is totally unacceptable.
Steve spoke with his sister who is also upset about the request for money. However, my inlaws asked her straight to their faces and she said "yea, sure". Well, her husband was not a happy camper and was pissed off like I was. He works for himself and they are having some medical problems with the newborn to take care of, so this is not in the cards for them either. So, I'm not sure if they will be handing over the money either. Steve plans to call his Dad this weekend and ask him what GRANDPA's intent was for the gifts to his grandkids. He will also be providing my FIL with a tally of our expenses for the wedding. We think Grandpa may be on to his son (my FIL). He used to give my FIL one big check and my FIL would then write out the checks to the grandkids. Well, last Christmas my FIL took out $250 (the magic number) from each of the grandkids checks to supposedly pay for a ring for my MIL. There is no way the ring cost $1000. This time around Grandpa actually wrote out the checks himself. I think I figured out what the additional money is for. My MIL is having hordevoures and a brunch at her house so she felt it was necessary to get the windows washed, her bedroom ceiling painted, and the lower level painted. UGH!!!! |
| Definately time to take a family stand on this, otherwise it only gets worse as the years roll on and the demands and control escalates if you don't all unite and say NO!! |
| Wow, when I see my inlaws tomorrow they are getting huge hugs!! Guess I can breathe a big sigh of relief that they are just weird and not freakin' evil!
Stacy, I seriously would tell your inlaws no. Nowhere does it say that the extended family has to help with wedding costs. You just know that if some job comes up at the wedding, one of you guys will get wrangeld into it. You'll be babysitting the guest book or running errands from the dressing room to the church or just being at everyone's beck and call. Then again, you could start charging $250 an hour to do their stupid chores!
I'd take the money and buy a large, gawdy piece of jewelry and wear it to the wedding! |
| Boy, do I feel lucky that I'm single! Seriously, I think this is a situation that you do not respond to with your inlaws etc. Spend the money or save the money as if you did not receive the note for the inlaws. In other words ignore their letter and let them bring up the subject to you. Best of luck!! |
| Steve went to help his Dad to hang a cabinet this past Wed night. Why it was so URGENT for him to drive another 30 miles from home after work to hang it makes no sense. However, it's just another example of their wacky thought processes.
Steve spoke to his Dad about what the rationale was behind the request for additional money. The rationale wasn't reasonable and Steve said that he wasn't handing any more $$$ over. His Dad didn't make a fuss about it, but we feel better knowing they can't expect us to give into their crazy requests. Now..off to the wedding of my SIL this weekend. I'm sure I'll have more stories to share for your entertainment! |
Yay for Steve!  
You must be so proud of him! |
| Based on what I saw this weekend, the inlaws wanted money for:
1. Painting interior of their home 2. Molding placed in several rooms 3. Overhangs/tent things to keep guests cool in the backyard 4. Window washers  |
| I'd like to have the interior of my home painted and the crown molding replaced, too.
Can you fund that for me, Stacy? |
| what about a full kitchen remodel...I could ask my parents for that..or better yet Brians dad and stepmom
that'll go over like a ton of bricks  |
Good for hubby 
Hope you enjoy the wedding, let us know what what happens. Any meltdowns etc. |
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