Breeders/ white Old English
 My fiance and I are looking for a new furball to add to our family! AND we want that furball to be an Old English Sheep Dog! great right! BUT  here's the hitch in the plan. My fiance dosen't want any old english sheep dog he wants a white one.
Can anyone help us?  |
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| No reputable breeder would purposely breed a white sheepdog. They are prone to health problems including deafness and blindness. |
| I've had 5 OES and seen hundreds more but never an all white one. Maybe a Bichon would meet his criteria? |
| Unless there's something wrong with the breeding, I don't think that you'll ever find an all white one. OES are bred mainly gray and white. The AKC standard is and most reputable breeders will breed for the standard :
Any shade of gray, grizzle, blue or blue merle with or without white markings or in reverse. Any shade of brown or fawn to be considered distinctly objectionable and not to be encouraged. Has anyone ever seen an albino? |
| I've never seen an albino. I've seen ones that have more white than usual, but never a pure bred with all white. I think that would be very hard to come by.
There are plenty of white breeds out there. Have you and your fiance researched those? |
| Alinamarie's dog Tigerlily is all white except on the backside. She's a cutie!
Monty Python wrote: That's not got much spam in it.
She looks completely white from this angle: 
Tigerlily is on the right here: 
All of Alinamarie's pictures: http://photos.oes.org/thumbnails.php?al ... by&uid=754 |
| Hmmm... I've never seen an all white sheepie.
I specifically wanted a blue-eyed sheepie because my sheepie-mix that died of cancer had blue eyes. Fortunately I learned prior to purchase that this is not a characteristic that should be sought above all else. Temperament and health should be first and foremost in any responsible breeding program. Breeding specifically for certain physical characteristics like white head, blue eyes, etc. can lead to problems. Some sheepies bred specifically for the all-white head are totally deaf... unfortunately you see them popping up in shelters and rescues. While a deaf dog can be a wonderful companion, they do have special needs and require a little different approach at training. If the white head/blue eyes happens naturally as a result of good breeding practices, that's a different story. If you find a reputable breeder that offers these two characteristics (fine temperament and health) in their puppies you'll be happier in the long run. Good luck with your search! |
| Komondors look like OES's but are all white.
Much bigger dog though. |
Pepsi's Mommy wrote: Komondors look like OES's but are all white.
Much bigger dog though. Much different dog too. They really only look like an OES for the first 18 months until their cords begin to really form. There aren't herders and have an instinctual guarding nature. They're very independent since they were bred to guard flocks alone with no humans around. If I had to pick a family dog, I'd pick an OES-- you'll also have a much easier time finding one. There are only about 8 AKC registered litters of Koms a year. |
| How about a compromise? Polish Lowland Sheepdogs are a llittle smaller and can be a little whiter. This guy needs a home and he's adorable with only grey ears from what I can see.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/dis ... id=6192833 |
| Wow, I have never seen a PON in rescue before.
I am sure he'll go fast. He's adorable!!! |
ButtersStotch wrote: How about a compromise? Polish Lowland Sheepdogs are a llittle smaller and can be a little whiter. This guy needs a home and he's adorable with only grey ears from what I can see.
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/dis ... id=6192833 What a cutie. I didn't know this breed looked so much like an OES. Do they have a similar temperament? |
| Vegas,
Here are some good sites with lots of info on them http://www.pon-paradise.com/ http://www.awangardapons.com/ |
| They are beautiful dogs!! I didn't know about that breed. Just looks like mini sheepies - wow! |
Drezzie's Mom wrote: They are beautiful dogs!! I didn't know about that breed. Just looks like mini sheepies - wow!
I've looked into this breed a lot and met some at a couple shows. They are very beautiful and look very similar to an OES, but they don't seem to have the exuberant personalities associated with an OES. Cool, but very different, dog. |
| How cool! All the research I did before getting Allie, never saw this one! Amybe not very popular.....Man, Allie can be a real pain, what saves her is she is so darn cute and funny. If I had not gotten her, I would really consider Buster! Plus not to have to go thru the potty and crate training. |
| Emily, that's what I found with PONS.
Buying a dog just for looks is selfish or egocentric. Instead one should concentrate on health and temperament so the dog has a long and healthy life. If he truly wants a long haired white dog, watch Petfinders. Every so often an OESxGreat Pyrenees shows up. Chances are good it will be mostly white. susan |
| I breed old English sheepdogs and I have a white one in every litter! I just figured out why, mom is a carrier of the s locust Gene which is double sp (sp/sp). Genes are wild. Puppies aren’t dead or blind they always have a little tiny black spot above eye the size of a quarter and that’s it then the rest of their body is all white! I also had a pied this litter too he’s all white with like 1 small black spot on hip and black mask over eyes super cool looking.  |
Guest wrote: I breed old English sheepdogs and I have a white one in every litter! I just figured out why, mom is a carrier of the s locust Gene which is double sp (sp/sp). Genes are wild. Puppies aren’t deaf or blind they always have a little tiny black spot above eye the size of a quarter and that’s it then the rest of their body is all white! I also had a pied this litter too he’s all white with like 1 small black spot on hip and black mask over eyes super cool looking. |
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