Biting

Do a lot of OES have biting and food problems when they get older? Huggs had a problem with his bones, and once Matthew went under the table to pat him when he was chewing a bone and Huggs growled and nipped at him... didnt get him. That has gone away since... he seems to have no problems (we worked on that a lot though)
Will he have problems when he gets older? Is it common to OES?
Liz
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I have a 7 month old and I have found that she is very aggressive with her toys, I haven't touched her when she is eating her food. But, she is very good about sitting and taking snacks from my hand.

I too am wondering if she will come out of this?
Both of mine are very good about taking toys, food, bones, etc. However, I did have a problem in the past with a sheepie we had 15 years ago. She was real good about most things being given up but I learned to NEVER try an take things from her when she was under a table, bed or any kind of enclosed space. She would growl and snarl over the stupidest things so I would wait for her to come out in the open and then assert myself (or at least try to). I don't know if they feel more threatened because of the confinment or if it reminds them of being in a cave in bygone days.
Lorraine
Hi,

This is kinda after the fact but for those with new puppies this advice that was given to me by a trainer should help.

When they are still young...occasionally pick up their food dish and play with their food and then return it. Do this every once in a while and they will not have food issues. Merlin is now 7 months old and loves his kibbles but will allow me to pick up his food dish at any time with no confrontations. I'm not sure if he will continue to do this as he ages but I still practise it occasionally so that he is used to it.

I'm not sure what advice to give if they growl at you should you happen to walk by their food dish and they growl. I would be tempted to somehow take it away from them (The Alpha does this in the wild and the subordinate relenquishes it without challenging) Easier said then done however, if the dog is growling at you, but ,helpful if you had the assistance of a friend. One holds the dog , the other takes the dish away. Just a suggestion.

Marianne
Thanks so much for all the advice... Huggs has done great reacently. We did make it a point to play with his food, and he dosent even bat an eye when the kids are in their food... (joseph thinks they like it in their water... so i put some in his cup one day to see if he liked it LOL) Anyways.... we have worked on the bone aggression, though the kids dont go near him under the table anymore... if they need to be with him they call him out. I guess getting snarled at was enough for them to stop. I love hearing about other people's dogs!!
Liz
We're having a similar problem with Isobel,yesterday I stroked her when she was having her food and she really growled at me and snapped,so today I tried it again to see her reaction and she was fine.I was worried incase she's going to have food aggression issues but I suppose because she's young now is the time to put a stop to it.
I have worked with Huggs to stop his behavior on food aggression. We worked on dominance issues as well. I have read a bit about it, but I am not any expert.... When he was growling and snapping I did not pull away. but took hold of his collar and took the food or thing I wanted and look very sternley into his eyes untill he looked away, to show him that I was boss and I can take anything I want. He hasnt shown any emotional scarring (thank goodness.... I would feel like the worst mommy if he seemed hurt) But, its better than having to give him up in the event that he cannot live with the kids. We did similar practice on dominance with the kids.... Huggs is still the same happy go lucky guy.... and we are not having to worry (much) about problems.. we keep making sure that the kids work a lot on food with him, they feed him and give treats... He looks to them when he wants a treat (since they will give in quicker) Hope this helps.... We havnt had an episode in months
Liz
There's a great book, The Dog's Mind, by Dr. Bruce Fogle that discusses aggression issues! I recommend it to everyone - regardless of whether you have problems with your dog or not!

Aggression can often be inherited - and some aggressions develop during the socialization period (if I remember from the book that is 7-12 weeks old). Aggression is also more common with intact males. It has been recommended to feed a low-protein high quality diet as well!

Positive Reinforcement Training is suggested (for all dogs)- negative (punishment) training can lead to aggressive behavior.

Be careful, I think someone had mentioned in a previous post about aggression that it wasn't recommended to "stare them down" - it means that you are challenging them (I think!).

Just my opinion!
Kristen
I knew about the challenging... My vet reccomended doing that and putting him on his back and pinning him down like his mom would. We were told to do this at an early age, so he would get the message (like a pup in a pack.... and the elders would stare them down and punish them) I do know that its NEVER a good idea to look in the eyes of an unfamiliar doggie..... its a threat to them. Huggs is used to it, it means to him that what he is doing is unacceptable, and after that he usually changes his behavior and is more submissive.... But usually he is his bouncy self!!
I agree, its not a good idea to stare... we started it so young that Huggs knows what it means. The kids know that they are never to stare at an unfamiliar dog (good topic since the oldest is now in stranger awareness topics at school...)
Thanks
Liz
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