OES in need of rescue...but what to do
sorry for this rather long post It's been a while since our last post, since losing tung tung last year, we have been dogless as we are didn't to to bring up another puppy as a "replacement" for him. Instead, we have been taking care of a wide variety of dogs for friends going on their vacation. Recently, a business client of my firm, enquired if I am interested in adopting a 3 year old OES. Our initial interest in this OES eventually led us to one of the most heartrending and frustating experience of our lives. The backstory It turns out that the OES -- Robin -- was originally owned by my client (now ex-client), it was a present from her then boyfriend. After they broke up a year later, neither of them wanted Robin. Subsequently, Robin was sent back to his "breeder", the "breeder" then found Robin a foster home, after six months the foster parents returned him to the "breeder". The "breeder" then kept him for another three months after which they asked Robin's original parent -- my client -- to find him a new home or they'd put him to sleep. Never even considering that Robin IS her responsiblity, my client then attempted to place Robin in 4 different homes within 3 weeks!!!!! Currently Robin is in a proper kennel awaiting for a good samaritan. "What's wrong with Robin?" First of all, upon our visit, the "breeder" and his "kennel" turns out to be a puppy mill with a non-present owner and a three hired hands taking care of 30 or so dogs kept in in tinroofed shed and cages. According to his handlers, after biting one of them, Robin was kept in his 5x4 cage for the past two weeks, except for feeding and waste disposal, and cleaning him up on the day of our visit. Over a few extended conversations. We found out why Robin is having so much problems. 3 year old Robin was not only abused but never properly socialised nor toilet trained! For his first two months, he was kept in my client's yard and was allowed in the house only at night. Once, peeing on thier carpet, Robin was beaten and caged -- never permmited back in the house. When my client moved, Robin was kept on their roof terrace. Every time he attempted to go into the house he is either caged or beaten, the only other interaction with them was when they feed him (daily) or take him out for walks (once a week). Continuing their "hands-off" approach, Robin was brought to a "pet beautician" for his first bath, after which Robin reacts agressively to anyone holding a hose. The heartbreaking list goes on... When we visited Robin with my client at the puppy mill, elby and I could see that Robin was so sad and scared, yet as he recognised my client, he got so happy and excited. We confronted my client about this fact and asked why wouldn't she accept her responsibility to Robin, especially she can afford to, the b*&(# was soooo egocentric, saying to us "My new boyfriend hates dogs but I'm sure Robin will be just as happy with his new parents." We found out that Robin had again bitten his handler as they tried to cage him after seeing us leave. Both Elby and I are distraught over this, but as neither of us have experience dealing with scared/scarred/aggressive dogs. We did the only thing which we could do, which was to call up various local shelters and rescues in Hong Kong, none of which was willing to house an aggressive animal. We ended up helping Robin find a properly managed kennel willing to house him temporary. What should we do next? We spoke to our vet and he said that chances are unless his original owner is willing to take him in, Robin would be better off to be put to sleep, as he is "too far gone." He also cautioned us "not to go soft", as knowing us for years, he is certain that we do not have the firmness to provide adequate readjustment for Robin. Yet after calling literally all the shelters in Hong Kong, all we got in response was "can't help with a biter, but we'll put a word out for you." Logially, this is understandable but emotionally we feel so powerless. So many humans have failed him... Elby and I are appealing to OES resucers worldwide to help Robin. Both in advice or in action. We have decided that even if the owner is not willing, we are willing to pay for as much of Robin's transportation -- from Hong Kong to anywhere in the world -- as we can afford. Be forewarned, extreme patience and TLC is required Robin:- Is not housebroken; a defensive biter; aggressive/scared to male voices aggressive/scared to running water aggressive/scared to stick shapes (brooms, canes etc) aggressive/scared to vets aggressive/scared to eardrops aggressive/scared to hair trimmers On the other hand, Robin is- Extremely friendly with other dogs, demonstrated a great capacity of affection to his orignally owner. He is recently desexed and physically examined by SPCA (deemed physically healthy). Unfortunately, to date, Evil owner has repeatedly refused our request to have Robin behaviourally/psychologially evaluated or examined. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Roy and Elby |
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| My heart was breaking reading this story and I really wished I lived closer to you both.
I've adopted two previously deemed aggressive badly behaved dogs from shelters and their history included beatings and starvation. Neither of these dogs had lived a good life until I adopted them. The first was Shaggy whom I written about many times in this forum whom sadly passed away at the age of 15, 2 wks ago. When I adopted Shaggy she was a horrible matted mess and nipped kids, was not house broken and barked all the time. A few years later you wouldn't recognize the same dog - she was a therapy dog for children with disabilities and one of only three dogs under contract with the Humane Education society that provided educational "Pet Talks" to hundreds of school children. No doubt it was a lot of work especially the first year but she became the most wonderful dog anyone could ask for. The second one I adopted from the pound was Dudley..aka Big Dog, a huge 120 pound also badly matted dog that actually looked as if he had two heads the mat on his head was so bad. His teeth were also worn down at the age of three years, which made the vet suspect he had been kept in a metal cage all his life. Worse he was afraid of the outdoors and would cower under my kitchen table when it was time to go for walks. I'd clip a leash on him and have to pull him out...no easy feat as the Big Dog weighed more than I did. Again lots of work as he wasn't house broken either and I had to socialize him to the outside world.Daily walks where I took him to a field to let him run free...eventually changed his personality. He too became a wonderful family pet. He actually saved my son whom was little at the time and myself from harm one day when out in the woods alone we were approached by two men and Big Dog crashed through the bushes and prevented them from getting closer to us. I have no doubt he knew we were in danger. He was a wonderful dog and gentle as a lamb otherwise. Both Shaggy and Big Dog have now passed, but I was blessed to have lived with these wonderful friends. It can be done and I won't lie that it takes a lot of work initially but I truly believe with an OES they can be turned around. The fact he's good with other dogs is a wonderful thing, now he needs to trust humans again. I would take a dog like this in a heartbeat as I know they can be turned around given the wonderful OES disposition. He needs to belong to a family again and loved. Please keep writing about him...I want to know what happens. Oh one last thing I should mention is with both of these dogs, neither did well with a lot of dicipline at first, as they were both frightened. A softer approach to build their trust first was the best way then the obedience training was much better. Marianne PS Ron and Joan ..um ...you wouldn't be thinking of going to Hong Kong and picking up this boy for me would you? Okay I'm half joking. Roy and Elby check Ron's post about the incredible story of Winston and you'll see miracles can happen. I wonder what the cost would be to ship a dog to Vancouver via HongKong? I'd be willing to try to help him and offer to take him if no one else has any suggestions. |
| Roy, Elby,
I read this story earlier, and had to sign off and couldn't reply at that time because I was in tears, my heart is breaking for Robin. Thank you for not giving up on him to this point. Marianne has said it all in not giving up on this poor abused boy. There has to be some way he can be helped. If only that you could be strong and take him in and as she has said with patience and time and all the love that you two were able to give Tung, maybe you could make the difference for him. Please keep us posted. You all will be in my prayers, that a good solution can be found for Robin. |
| I think you should join OES-L and post this story there as well as (or instead of) here!!! |
| Hi Marianne:
Being curious, I just checked flight details (I have no idea what the costs or travel restrictions would be for a dog or how far you are from Vancouver) and saw that Air Canada has a direct flight from Hong Kong to Vancouver - flight time would be about 13 hours. Unfortunately, I was unable to find any direct flights to any airports within a few hours of us (Merrimack New Hampshire)- and I'm not sure if a dog with as many issues as Robin seems to currently have would do well with a connecting flight. Although, if no other solutions are offered, I will be looking into it. I am praying that there is some way that this boy can be saved. Jennifer & Baxter |
Ron wrote: I think you should join OES-L and post this story there as well as (or instead of) here!!!
It has been pinted out to me that I was not clear (at all!) in what I meant by this post. I meant it to mean that I feel so strongly that royandelby should post this to OES-L, that royandelby should post it there too. But if posting in more than one place was too much to ask, royandelby could post it there only. As most of you know, I've posted about OES-L before, and how there membership is currently about twice the size of oes.org. Sorry for the confusion. |
| Thanks Jennifer for looking into it. You gave me an idea and I searched the web for info regarding transporting animals via Air Canada.
Roy and Elby this is what I found. Air Canada office in Hong Kong 852 2867-8111 I also check this site http://www.aircanada.ca/cargo/products/animals.html http://www.aircanada.ca/services/luggage/pets.html Reading the sites it mentioned the Transboarder flight fares for pets would be 110 Canadian and 75 dollars US. ( It didn't say anything about size or weight of pet however.) I can see the expensive factor would be the crate which would have to follow the airline quidelines. It also mentioned that Argricultural reguirements must be met. I'm not sure but when I picked up Merlin in the US this past summer and transported him via car across the boarder I needed a vet certificate stating he was in good health. A rabies shot is also required. I'm not sure if the Canadian government has restrictions on pets via Hong Kong and can look into it. Now I'm not saying that Roy and Enby should send Robin to me although I would be willing to take him. If they find another alternative than that's a wonderful thing! I live 1/2 hr away from the airport in the suburbs of Vancouver on a 1/4 acre lot which has an eight foot high fence. The back of the property has been left in a natural state with 6 trees that are over 100 ft high, fish pond, shrubs and lots of grassy area for a dog to run freely. I work only 4 blocks from my home and only work 4 hrs a day as a Special Education Teacher, I'm also a kids entertainer. My kids are grown but one of my sons visits me on weekends.( So female only home most of the time) My special ed background requires that I work with special needs and abused children which is why I have a knack for working with difficult animals as it's almost the same approach, a gentleness with lots of consistency.All my pets are indoor/outdoor. Okay a bit embarressing I feel like I'm trying to convince you to send Robin to me but I really want to help. If you guys find another solution I would be more than thrilled as I just want what's best for Robin. The 13 hr flight time is a toughie. Marianne Anyway tha |
| *crossing fingers hoping that robin will go to a good home like mariannes* |
| I second that, I pray that Robin will find a good home. I would love to see Marianne be able to get him, because I think she could give him all the love and patience to help him become a great dog. Please keep us updated on what happens to him. Thanks, Stormi and co. |
| Thanks so much to all of you that posted and offered their vote of confidence in me. I was truly touched.
I hope Roy and Elby don't mind me mentioning this to you, but, he has contacted me and we are in the middle of trying to make arrangements. I'll keep you guys posted. |
WOO HOO!  That is so great! That is great news for everyone involved. Robin will be able to get out and run with Blue and Merlin. Plus, a mom who will love him. Marianne, I hope everything works out, it sounds like it is going to. I can't wait to hear all of your stories about the adventures Blue, Merlin, and Robin will have, with Shaggy watching over all of you. Good luck again, Stormi and co. |
and Robin's life seems finally to be in a right direction. Being a "realist"  it all seems a little too good to be true! We have contacted a pet relocation company to handle all the necessary paperwork. They are quite perplexed that neither Elby or myself is Robin's owner but thier expertise in dealing with gov't agencies is a great help for us.
we hope the relocation process be ready and if all goes according to plan (fingers firmly crossed), Robin will meeting Marianne late April or early May. We would like to thank Marianne, Ron and all the board members for their support and advice, we really hope that this will work out for both Robin and Marianne at the end. We feel guilty that we are unable to adopt him ourselves but hope that Robin and you guys would understand why. Love, Roy and Elby |
| I am glad things are moving in the right direction for Robin. I know that China is much different from the US, but I wish legislation would be passed to not allow people like Robin's original owners to ever be able to obtain another animal of any kind.
So sad what he's been through and how lucky for him now that Marianne's family is willing to possibly adopt him. |
| Dearest Roy and Elby,
I think you are remarkable people that would go through all of the work that you have done for Robin. I have only had the pleasure of "meeting"i( in a virtual sort of way) people like you and Ron and Joan and all the wonderful members of this forum who seem to have a love and respect for animals. There are a lot of people who feel like dogs are not worthy of love and respect. I sincerely think you are are wonderful to try so hard to find Robin a home. I hope everything works out for all parties involved. Stormi and co |
I think Robin has a guardian angle sitting on her nose because she is so lucky to have found people who care so much  Roy and Elby you should not feel bad about not being able to to keep Robin, you could have just turned your back but you didn't you stepped in and took charge and hopefully found Robin a new loving home  And Marianne is such a dear angel for wanting to give Robin a warm loving home I to hope that everything works out, Good luck  |
| I have been away for some time from the forum....and I just read this strory........I had tears in my eys as I was reading it.....I am still a little dazed over it....but I have seen brutallity to animals quite often here and I can`t get over it.
Marianne you are a God sent to this poor fellow....talking about gardian angels ....I think Shaggy up in doggy heaven is making this happen....she knows what her mommy can do with abused dogs. I will pray for this to happen soon so that baby will find a home soon and can start his healing process ASAP. |
| Marianne:
You are a wonderful person to offer to take on Robin and teach him how to interact with people. I will be looking forward to hearing the continued story on Robin. Robin is truly fortunate to have Roy and Elby try to find him a good home in which he can prosper. Jennifer |
| Marianne, Roy & Elby,
You ARE angels to take care of this poor baby and save his life. I know with all the love you have to give Robin will respond and be the great companion he was meant to be. I too want to hear the continuing saga. Please keep us all up to date. We love happy OES endings! Henry's Mom |
| Hi Everyone,
I think Roy and Elby deserve all the credit as without them we wouldn't know about Robin. They are being modest too as the cost is astronomical as it goes by poundage of dog and crate..and we all know what these guys weigh!! They were willing to foot the entire bill themselves in search of a home for Robin. Now that's kind hearted!!! In our conversation they mentioned the owner is feeling a tad quilty now and has offered to contribute to some of the cost. What amazes me about Roy and Elby is: this isn't even their dog and they had no previous history with him but yet are doing this out of pure love for Sheepies!! Hip Hip Hooray for them!!! P.S If all goes well I may even meet Robin this coming SATURDAY, much earlier than expected but if it all works out then he would have a two legged person accompanying him on the trip so it's why Saturday may be the date. Lets all cross our fingers and I'll keep you guys posted! Marianne Sigh isn't this site just wonderful for connecting with Sheepie lovers from all over the world - friendships have no bounds! |
| We are eagerly awaiting for the local government to issue Robin's health certificate. If all goes well, Robin will be accompanying his owner's friend (who happens to be visiting vancouver) to the Great White North.
Marianne is a godsend! Her dedication is simply astounding, and all the folks participating in the forum are amazingly warm people. Maybe that is to be expected as we have all been brought together by the warmest, friendliest living creatures on the face of earth BTW, with a little "reverse psychology" , we seem to have convinced the owner to foot the bill. |
| !!!! i am so excited. i just read frida's story and now i find out that robin gets a home, what a good day for sheepdogs! |
| I hope everything works out for poor Robin,I think you're all angels |
| Hoorray for everyone who made this possible!
Once you see Robin's look when he gets to know you'll see that all your trouble was worth every second. My most sincere regards to all of you so commited to providing Robin with the loving home he deserves. |
| Marianne
I commend you for taking on the future of Robin. You are a saint my friend. After reading all your stories though, I do believe you can make the difference for this poor sweet boy. I only wish he had time with someone, like Ron & Joan, who could help him adjust to people first and then work him up to the point of putting him on a plane flight that is going to last 13 hours. I am so concerned for him to have to experience this after what it sounds like he has already been through. If only I were closer, I would gladly lend you a helping hand. I know you realize that we are at least all here on the other end for some moral support if you need it kiddo. My prayers are still with all of you, that this will all go smoothly for everyone. |
Quote: I only wish he had time with someone, like Ron & Joan, who could help him adjust to people first and then work him up to the point of putting him on a plane flight that is going to last 13 hours. I am so concerned for him to have to experience this after what it sounds like he has already been through.
Let us know what we could/should do, maybe we are so intent on getting Robin away that we have overlooked his pace. I hate being pragmatic, but the cost differential -- between Robin travelling with his owner's friend and Robin travelling alone -- is too great for us to discount. (approx. CDN$250 vs approx CDN$2000) |
| Obviously getting Robin to his new home at an affordable price takes precedence - and that is a substantial difference in price!
I've found Bach's Rescue Remedy to be effective in calming scared dogs and cats (and many rescue animals that have stayed with us). It is made of flower essences and will not affect anything other medication that he may be on. I don't know if you can get any in Hong Kong, but I would suspect that you could find something similar. When I use it, I mix four drops in an ounce of water and then give the dog a droper full twice a day. I don't know if it would work for Robin - particularly on a 13 hour flight....but it may be worth a try. In addition, I think that some one mentioned using lavender to calm their dog. I'm not sure if it was on this forum or on the OES-L. I'll try to dig out the information on that. Jennifer [ Nelson Bach USA - Rescue Remedy, from Herballoveshop 20 This is the best price I've found on Amazon.com for the 20ml size (about .67 ounces) -Ron] |
| Hi Everyone,
Good advice and thoughts from everyone. It is something to consider as Robin is not going to be a happy camper when he first arrives a 13 hr flight and his past experience will certainly affect his mood. Roy and I had discussed what experts have told us about sedation and from what vets on his side and my own have told me , they recommended against doing it. However, a calming herbal agent is good advice and I'm confident Roy will try his utmost to help. I took a class last night with one of the country's leading experts on dogs - he's been training dogs for our huge movie industry here for many years. He also teaches obedience classes and was highly recommended to me by one of the people at the dog park I visit. I must say I was amazed at what he could do with Merlin within the first 1/2 of the class. Unlike other obedience classes that start at a specific time you just show up at his home at the time he ask of you and so there were only 2 other people there at the same time as me. Within 1/2 hr he had Merlin sitting on a crate in the down position and me on the other side of the room. It's based on I can outlast you and all positive reinforcement. There are no reprimands at all but once the dog does what's required of him - tons of praise and then go play. Merlin did not want to be on the crate at first but once he even got one paw up I was told to praise him like crazy, then two..so on. Eventually Merlin got bored and laid on it which was the ultimate goal and he was praised by everyone. He thought this was so much fun he repeated the behavior almost imediately. This fellow is huge 6'5 and yet has a very gentle dispostion so I'm lucky to have found out about him. (I'll write about his philosophy another time as it made sense.) He has also agreed to come over to my home to assess Robin once I have him home for a while. The one thing he recommended that I'm not comfortable with, and so I'll throw it out here and perhaps you guys can give feedback. I hadn't mentioned it to you at all Roy as it made me feel really uncomfortable. This trainer insisted that Robin should have a Haltie placed on him in Hong Kong so that it will be on when I arrive at the airport he already has it on. A haltie is a muzzle type thing that allows dogs to open their mouth to eat and drink but can be shut by pulling a string at the back if the dog becomes aggressive. Since it's on the top of the heads the dog is not aware that it is YOU doing it. They think it's their behavior that causes the muzzle to close. Now I've never had to muzzle any dog before and wanted feedback from you guys. Is this cruel or does it make sense? He told me to have the haltie on at all times when I first meet Robin and hand feed him to build up the trust. In a gentle manner showing Robin what is acceptable behavior then a hand fed food reward. Robin will then see me as the Alpha. Well another long winded post and I must leave for work so would love to hear what everyone's thoughts are. Bye for Now Marianne |
| Marianne, I am more familiar with the "Gentle Leader" which is a similar training collar/nose harness. I know that in the literature that comes with the collar, they recommend placing the GL on the dog and allowing him to walk around the house with you without actually attaching the leash; however, they also say that the dog should always be under supervision whenever the GL is on. This is partly to ensure that the dog does not have a chance to learn how to take it off. I would also be worried that if the dog reacts to being alone while in the plane, that he could hurt himself with the halti, say if it got caught on his kennel.
Does Robin know the person who is travelling with him ? I was wondering if his/her presense might be a calming influence on him. |
Quote: Does Robin know the person who is travelling with him ? They know each other but not very well. As Robin is a "biter", I am afraid it might get a little hairy should he need to be uncrated before arriving to his new home. I too am conflicted about this...  [/quote] |
| Hi Sabastian,
Thanks for giving me another viewpoint to consider and I'm going to follow my gut instinct and decide that Robin's well being and health should be the most important factor. Ha! Of course mine is too but the more I think of it, he's going to be in that plane for 13 hrs and I would be too worried if something should happen to him with no one there to supervise while he's in flight. Thank you for your suggestion and telling me about the supervision required, as I said I've had no experience with halties before. Now I'm curious to hear from people that have experience when you pick up an animal from the plane. Is the crate on wheels? I imagine I would have to pick up Robin from a loading bay? Not sure how it all works but would love to hear from others whom have had experience with this. My only concern was when Robin was unloaded if there were many males present and a lot of activity which will certainly increase his stress level. Or is it a quiet area? Lots of questions I know but the more I know what to expect the easier it will be. It turns out that the woman accompanying Robin was one of his foster moms so it appears she's had a relationship with him. How good it was is not really known. Sabastian have we met or chatted somewhere before? Are you located in Victoria and are involved in dog rescue? Thank you for your helpful information. Again thanks everyone for all the encouragement and I'm sure I will have stories to tell after Sat! Truthfully I'm still conflicted too and keep going back and forth on this...yes? no? He wouldn't associate me with the haltie if it were placed in Hong Kong..but I also worry greatly about his safety. Marianne |
| In each airport where we've travelled (Boston, LA) animals arrive right near the rest of baggage claim, usually at a large door near the end. (They don't slide'em down the belt! lol)
Sometimes they have delivered the dog rapidly (BOS) Sometimes not so rapidly (LAX) (as in last cargo off the plane). In honolulu the dog was delivered to another building to go through Agricultural Inspection. Might that be the case in Canada? I would hope/insist that some sort of collar be on Robin at the very least... I would wear protective garments (multiple heavy gloves, thick heavy jackets, etc) in taking Robin out of the crate. Your health and safety are my main concern, especially in the initial greeting. We sedated our dog with Bendryl, but it's only an 8 hour sedation. Maybe a vet can recommend something more long lasting. The crate itself is usually not on wheels, but they have been delivered on wheels, and dropped in the middle of bagge for me to deal with. Not ideal. Also, has anyone seen a picture of Robin? Just curious. |
Quote: Also, has anyone seen a picture of Robin? Just curious.
Hi Ron, Check your email, feel free to post it. But I don't know how.  |
| Good Morning,
I am new and really enjoying this exciting story about Robin's "deliverence." You will all be in my thoughts and prayers. While reading your posts, a couple thoughts came to mind: Firstly, since this is a 13 hour flight and I would suspect there will be lay-overs and perhaps plane changes? If so, PLEASE post a sign on Robin's crate instructing airline employees not to let the dog out of the crate!! Maybe also not to feed the dog treats. My husband worked for airlines for over 15 years and can tell several stories of well-meaning airline workers letting dogs out to go potty, stretch the legs, etc., only to meet with dire consequences for both the worker and the dog. Maybe LOCK the crate? Especially if he will be rammy and upset. Secondly, will this foster mom person be with you when Robin arrives? Perhaps she should be the first person to approach the crate and remove him from the crate. I vote for at least some type of collar with identifying tags that have your local contact info (not Hong Kong). If anything, it will give you something to reach for should Robin bolt when the door is opened. I am familiar with the Gentle Leader and I'm not sure I would recommend it for this trip becuase it has a portion of the collar dangling from below the chin. Again, if Robin gets rammy he could catch the loop/ring on something and hurt himself. I can't wait to hear how this all plays out. I am truly happy to hear how lucky this sheepie is to have found you, Marianne!! May Saint Francis bless you both and hold Robin safe in his arms during this trip. Heidi |
| Marianne,
If you can manage to get all this pulled off -- which I think is quite doable as long as you can get an upright to accompany Robin on his trip -- this will end up being another miracle story!! Now that I've been able to wipe the tears dry, let me clear up some doubts I've seen expressed in some posts: 1. Air Canada Flight 8 is an Airbus 300 - it DOES NOT HAVE TO STOP ENROUTE AND DOES NOT. In other words, this one flight's (be sure to book it) wheels don't touch the ground once it leaves HKG until it gets to YVR (Vancouver). 2. I did 12 years between two major airlines. I worked for one of them at LAX (Los Angeles, CA) in what they call "lost & found" (baggage reception). With some true horror stories about unaccompanied animals in my back pocket (including one of an enraged Doberman who'd CHEWED HIS WAY THRU A CRATE!!!!), I will give you the following advice: ensure that Robin is placed in the sturdiest crate available with the most room. I might be tempted to see about sedation, too, even if it wears off before the plane can land. Every minute of that trip will probably seem like hell to Robin. Any minutes that can be spared him would be most humane. 3. The elapsed flight time -- scheduled -- for AC 8 is 11 hours, 30 minutes. Not as bad as 13, but still pretty nasty. 4. On AC 8, Robin will only be handled twice: once to load the crate (and hopefully he'll be sedated for this part), and once to unload. He will probably come awake sometime in-between. If he's enraged at unload time, the baggage handlers will know it, trust me ... you can't mistake the barking. BE SURE SOMEONE IS THERE AT AIR CARGO to handle him on reception. They DO NOT PLACE LIVE ANIMAL CRATES ON BAGGAGE CAROUSELS. Call Air Canada at YVR the day before to arrange pick-up ... they will tell you what to do, and they'll appreciate the warning. May the good Lord bless you and help this story come to a successful conclusion. True love knows no bounds. Peace, --Jim-- |
| I pressed the "submit" button too soon ...
From the posts, I'm not clear on whether there will be an upright to accompany Robin on his journey or not. If Robin is accompanied by an upright, the charges will be much cheaper (accompanied "baggage") as opposed to the alternative: air cargo. I'd bet my last dime that air cargo rates will be nearly prohibitive; but if necessary, this is just another barrier to overcome on the way to a miracle. How Robin is unloaded from the aircraft will depend on the answer to this question. If he goes accompanied, depending on the facilities at YVR, he will arrive as if he were a pair of skis (oversized luggage) at baggage claim; as air cargo he will be unloaded to the air cargo terminal. In some airports, these facilities can be literally miles apart. Call and check. Regardless of how he's to be handled, the Air Canada crew will certainly appreciate knowing there's someone actively interested whom they can contact if there's a problem. If Robin has to go as air cargo, I'd hit up his original owner for a major part of the funding. She would thus have a chance to atone for her heartlessness. Secondly, most governments have mandatory quarantine periods imposed depending on the animal's point of origin. Check with Canadian authorities on this ... I'd be certain to clarify Robin's circumstances and conditions (possibly vicious, abused, etc) to them. Robin will probably have to clear Customs too, which could affect how & where he is unloaded. Marianne, royanddelby ... I'll start praying for a successful miracle. I wish all of you ... Peace, --Jim-- |
| Hi guys...I think I have posted like two times on the forum. I was reading a post on the OES-L from Ron and he had a link to the story about Robin so I clicked it...What a story! I have a feeling that this will be a fairytale ending for Robin!! Besides bringing me to tears, I wanted to tell Marianne what to expect when picking up Robin. When I picked up Moses from the airport he was 8 weeks old and was only coming from the Midwest US. Well be prepared for a mess. If it's a nonstop flight, there will be no way to take him out to do his business. But I think that will be the least of your problems. This guy is worth it!!! Best of luck to you Marianne!~
Sincerely, Maria & Moe!! ( Go Robin, Go Robin...it's your birthday!!) |
| Hi Everyone,
I am starting to feel like this is a world wide operation with so many kind souls from all over the world involved. Kinda neat! The flight has been confirmed, Robin will be accompanied, he's flying on Cathay Pacific directly from Hong Kong to Vancouver. ( I remember reading the web site before on cross trans flights for dogs and they stated layovers not allowed.) No quarantine for dogs in Canada provided they have been issued a Government Health Certificate from their country of origin ( That has been done) Robin also has a microchip on his body which when scanned will give all the information of shots he's recieved since birth. In Vancouver, the general public cannot go to the baggage area but depending on what terminal can see their friends arrival but are behind glass. It appears then it will be Emily that will have to pick up the crate and bring it on the other side to my sister and me. Hopefully she will be able to do this but it's going to be tough as she'll have luggage too. I'm sure the airports take this into consideration but I should try to phone them sometime today to find out their procedure. I am hoping the crate is on wheels or we can find a sky cap person to take it out to the Parking Lot before even attempting to open it if this is possible. (VIA (Vancouver International Airport is extremely busy) and Robin's arrival is in the middle of the afternoon on a Sat which is probably peak hours. My sister is coming to the airport with me, as I didn't think it was a good idea to bring a guy with me to assist if Robin has issues with men. Both my vet and the one in Hong Kong recommended against sedation based on the school of thought that the dog will "freak" if he wakes and doesn't know where he is. They both said it's better to use a calming agent and did suggest Benadryl Nighttime Formula which would do the trick. I really appreciate all the help I've received here and can begin to thank you all. I'll keep you posted! Marianne |
You'll need to learn phonetically how to tell Robin to "sit" and/or whatever else he knows! Bring a tape recorder or a pencil and pad! 
Ok, I received a pair of Robin's pictures! What a cute looking dog! What an excited looking dog!
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| Oh my. Looks like everything's all set!!
All of you have my thoughts and prayers with you. I'm thankful that this particular combination of rules & regulations has come together to make this all easy, as well as for the people involved. Every one of you deserves to be canonized
And Robin is one handsome boy!! He's gonna be worth every bit of this effort, and more. Peace, --Jim-- |
| I have traveled through many airlines with Abbi. I have NEVER sedated her and she has always been calm and happy throughout our travels. The last one was from Bahia Blanca Argentina to BA (3 hours total), 6 hours wait in BA to the next flight at the international airport, then it was suppose to be a 10 hour flight to Miami. Our plane had a fuel problem and people, pets, and baggage had to remain on board for 4 hours before take off. The airlline issued us 40, 000 FF miles to make up for the inconvenience (so we went to Hawaii). So we were on that flight for 14 hours.
Then we had to go from Miami to Texas. Because we missed our inteconnecting flight, due to the trouble in BA, Argentina, we were loaded on a dead header to Houston with only 10 of us on board. We could talk to Abbi in baggage, and she seemed happy enough. When we arrived at each airport there were baggage carts there to load the crate onto. Every flight but the last had other dogs on it, and Abbi was the calmest one around and the only one NOT sedated. If the crates have wheels on them they sometimes do not fit in the baggage area, they can roll around and hurt the dog, they are heavier to lift, and as I see it, not needed. Evey airline I dealt with brought Abbi's crate out ON a luggage cart, and let me use it to get her to the car. Even the ones in US that usually charge you for it. I did have to ask at the Houston International airport. The Miami airport unloaded Abbi last on a crate carrier, so there was a wait, but at other airports she was unloaded first. When entering countries there is usually a "physical" search of the animal and the person accepting the animal has to answer a series of questions. Just put towels in the crate with the dog. If the dog eats the towels, so what, they chew on everything any way and a towel is harder to shred than paper or those pads. We put in 4 big beach towels and Abbi did not have them very messed up at all, just some pee. In Argentina we walked Abbi at both airports, we were not supposed to in Miami, but I raised a fuss and got to take her out to the parking lot before heading to Houston. Abbi was alseep when we arrived in Houston, so I just took her home and let her out (we live about an hour from the airport.) A friend of mine used rope (rag) rugs in her crate because they were sturdy and absorbent. Most pets are placed in an envrionmentally controlled compartment now, but on some planes it gets rather cold, so the towels and rugs help. The photos look like the pup is not full grown, so the crate should not be very large. Dogs cannot keep their balance as they are loaded and unloaded from planes, so they really need a crate in which they can JUST stand and turn around in --- but no more than that. Less is best when you are in a turbulent aircraft. I am so glad everything is going to work out ... wish we could help every person or pet like this .... sigh! Oh, ask that they do not feed the pup for 12 hours before the flight. It will not die from lack of food in one day and it will prevent vomiting or too much bowel movements in the crate. Water is fine. But even a clear diet the day before would be better than any food. I do not think you can lock luggage or pets into their containers for security and safety reasons. But you can place one of those plastic electric ties through the door closure, as they can be cut rather easily. We re-enforced all of the crates fastenners with ties because one of the expats crates came apart at the terminal. So we all secured our crates after that. And to add to my already overlong post, don't take treats into the airport debarking area. We had Abbi's food in a carry-on and the airports' sniffing dog ( a beagle) kept following us around. The officer came over and ask me if I had any food in the bag, as I was entering the US, and I said no, completely forgetting about the dog food and treats. She had me open the bag and that beagle was in there before you could say anything. I was so embarrased as I took out the dog dishes and food and handed them over. The officer was embarrassed too, as her pup was begging for the food! She gave it all back to me and hurried off. But came back when Abbi's crate was finally unloaded and said hi to her. She seemed curious about this woman with three girls, a dog, and 6 suitcases. We were moving back after a two year stint in Argentina. Now that story is one of our funnier moments told by my young ones, about how mom was almost fined for sneaking in food from Argentina, sigh! And the funniest part is she asked me in Spanish. We were looking forward to speaking English again, and the first American addresses us in Spanish! Found a lot of spanish spoken in Miami. |
| Marianne, Ron & Elby, Robin & All
I think Mission Control has everything under control, with a few minor tweeks to go. You guys are amazing ! Thanks for posting Robin's Pics Ron, He is a special pup. You know we are all worrying, including me about his flight. Maybe if we believe hard enough he may be quite taken with his new experience and be like Abbi and be totally cool about it all. Although, I think the Nightime Bendadryl is a good idea!
And once he gets with that Marianne of ours, he's in heaven and I bet you he'll know it right away. My prayers are with you all this weekend. Take care...... |
| Just a brief update,
Robin seem to have quite a few angels looking after him , according to the owner, one of his former foster parent knows the upper management of Cathay Pacfic (the airline he is travelling on), upon hearing Robin's saga has decided to WAIVE his transportation cost and in the name of charity, Robin will be travelling as a "VIP" !!!!! – last minute check-in, pirority disembarking etc.
Elby and I meant to check him one more time at the kennel but it turns out that the kennel is not reachable by public transportation (ain't got no car) 
The owner has promised to inform me once Robin has boarded the plane, though chances are we won't get to see Robin off.
We have gone as far as we can, so fingers are crossed and hoping for the best. Thank you so much Marianne for your effort, you are one incredible person, big thanks to all other board members for their insight and support. Roy and Elby |
| Roy & Elby
That Robin does have the ANGELS on his side. Thank you CATHAY PACIFIC for making this boy the VIP (Very Important Puppy) that he is.
Sorry that last post I had Ron & Elby, so use to writing that other name at this site. You two have done so much for Robin by not giving up. Take care, I know that Marianne will always keep you and all of us informed on his new life. |
royandelby wrote: Robin will be travelling as a "VIP" !!!!! – last minute check-in, pirority disembarking etc.
Some people may have said "deplaning" or "off-loading"... is disembarking an airline term reserved only for dogs? LOL Great news! So if I understand this, China to Vancouver, BC, Canada is about the same flying time as Chicago to Honolulu? 8 hours direct? That's wonderful. Edit:Clearly I didn't read that correctly, the flight number jtison referred to was flight 8 with a flight time of 11:30. Sorry![-Ron.] If Robin will be traveling in the "lap of luxury", will they let him ride in 1st class, and let him check his owner's friend into the cargo hold? |
| Ha! That was quite punny Ron!
Well the big day is arriving tomorrow (I'm on Pacific Time) so another 13 hrs from now I'll be at the airport awaiting Robin's arrival. Hooray for Cathay Pacific Airlines, Hooray for Roy and Elby, Hooray to everyone involved preparing Robin for his flight, Hooray to all the wonderful people on this site!! The flight will be 13 hrs even with no layovers but estimated arrival time due to good weather may be as short as 12 hrs according to Cathay Pacific. I'm frantically doing last min housecleaning just as if company was coming and in a way they are !!! I will try to drop a short note tomorrow evening to let everyone know how things turned out. If I wasn't directly involved I'd also be sheading a tear or two ...this dog has had two angels on his side I believe - Tung Tung and Shaggy. This one is in memory of you both. (daps eyes and feels those are the angels that made all of this possible) just as Jake made Winston's rescue possible. Bye for Now Marianne Oh last thing the picture was probably taken of Robin in his younger days as he's now 3 years old. |
| We're home!!!!
Report to date: No problems with Robin through Canada's boarders as he was given VIP status ( Emily dealt with this part) My sister and I arrived at the airport so afraid to miss them, we arrived 2 hrs early and plopped ourselves in a seat where people come through the gates when disembarking. Emily called my sisters cell phone and there she was! We made introductions Emily and her sister and me and my sister Nancy. Ironically the plane was supposed to be 1 hr early but ended up arriving 1 hr late..sigh! Robin was perfectly fine, no signs of aggression at all, sat well in the car, was fine on a leash, did not display any aggression towards my two dogs. Blue is a bit grumpy as I knew he would be , Merlin was thrilled about his new brother. My neighbor Steve whom I previously told about Robin had agreed to help and greeted him through the gate, Robin did not display aggression nor did he when greeting my oldest son whom stopped by to say goodbye before leaving for a 10 day vacation. I sound like I'm making this up- but so far no problems at all. I am also a realist and know that one of the three dogs has to emerge as the Alpha male and they all may be trying to establish their dominance so the next few days should be interesting. This may be the calm before the storm so I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks again everyone for your support! |
| Marianne,
David Letterman just came on the puter and said, "You Got Mail" and I new you had to be posting and were home
Go get some well deserved rest girl, relax with the new family member. I am so glad he is doing so well, so far, I hear you about the alpha routine and hope it goes as well as everything else has so far. Take care you Magical Girl |
| Yay Robin!! Good for you Marianne! I can't believe he's actually there! This is certainly a saga, but a good saga! Do you have plans to take him to see a Vet or anything? I'll pray that all goes well, and keeps going well!
Maria & Moe (Welcome home Robin!) |
| I am so glad it all worked out so well, you all are saints! I have been following this story so closely that all the people around me think I am nuts! I am so happy all has turned out well so far. Hip HIp Hooray is all I can say |
| Yay!
I know you have important things to do now... but you know the forum mantra.....: We want pictures! We want Pictures! We want Pictures! |
| haha thats exactly what i was thinking! bring on the pictures! |
| We can finally say...ROBIN IS HOME!
hip..hip......HURRAY
the forum mantra (nice one Ron) .......Pictures! |
| So pleased to hear that Robin has arrived safely,hope things are going well. |
| Marianne,
Robin's beautiful behavior just gives us one more proof that he was meant to be your dog and you were meant to be his person. I thought about you all weekend and I have told everyone I know this incredible story and about the love that people on this forum have for their OES. All my best thoughts are going to you, Robin, Merlin & Blue. Cookies for everyone! Please keep writing. I am sure I am not the only person checking this site constantly for updates. Henry's Mom |
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| So pleased Robin is now with you. I am sure you will be really busy now settling him no matter how much hard work there is, deep down Robin will know in his heart you will love him dearly. You will give off an aura all animals can sense this. I am sure everyones thoughts are with you and we are all willing robin to have a happy and contented life. luv pepe |
| This is all so amazing and beautiful! We'll be watching for updates! |
| Whew! Where to start?
Well ...Robin does not show any aggression at all towards humans and has met quite a few so far. We have gone for numerous walks together in the neighborhood and once were even approached by a man sweeping his driveway whom wanted to have a closer look. (You remember Robin is supposed to have issues with men with sticks) I asked him to stay back even tho Robin did not even show any concern. We walked by the dog park - me on the one side of the fence, my friends from the dog park on the other with their dogs and again he was just friendly. It's not all bliss however, in the household as there have been a few snarls and showing of teeth. The first day Merlin was in heaven playing with his new brother...racing around the fishpond, trampoline, fishpond...they tired each other out. Blue was having a few moments with Robin in the yard but it's the house that is a major issue. He's taken exception of this new stranger so I know this will be a major undertaking. I'm exhausted even tho it's only been three days as the first day it was spending a lot of one on one time with each dog and then a slow introduction on leashes away from the house on neutral territory. First Robin on a leash around the neighborhood, then Blue, then Merlin, then they all met individually. Later it was taking Merlin and Blue for a walk together, then Merlin and Robin ...later Blue alone. Whew! Originally Blue whom sleeps with my son on the weekends was content and Merlin and Robin were to sleep in the living room. They rough-housed so much that at 4 am ( I had plans to sleep on the couch to supervise) I had to seperate them. Robin is indeed housebroken as so far no accidents and he's even "AR-roofed" to go out for his business. 5 am I brought Robin to the computer room where I fell asleep on the Futon and he on the floor beside me but occasionally giving doggie kisses. (at this point I have to reconsider where each will sleep as usually both Merlin and Blue sleep in the living room (Blue only sleeps in my sons room when he is here on weekends.) Blue and Merlin both wake up at 5:45 am ( I normally get up at this time) and want to go out. So a mere 45 mins of sleep for me. I'm averaging aprox 1-2 hrs in the past three days but knew that for the first 2 wks or so I had to be diligent and not leave them unsupervised. Today I had to go to work for a few hours and didn't want to leave them unsupervised in the house so Robin in the backyard, Merlin in the living room and Blue in the computer room. (I would have left Blue in the living room but he could view Robin and barked constantly as Robin didn't go down to the yard but remained on the porch.) 2 hrs later I returned home on my lunch break and did a switch, Blue in the living room, Merlin and Robin outside. Apon returning home 2 hrs later, each went for walks. I've had to distract from many potential fights, never using my body of course but blankets, chairs, and backpack in between dogs when the teeth are bared...whatever was closest at the time. I knew it would be no easy feat but distract and difuse any potential fights so far I've been successful. I should mention it is not Robin that is the instigator. Ironically, old Blue is so far vying for the job of Alpha male and even he and Merlin got into their first fight. It was Blue who attacked and Merlin pinned him down. I made both of them know this behavior was unacceptable. While Robin doesn't appear to have any of the aggressions I was warned about he has some habits that we OES owners are familiar with - counter surfing and dirt eating. I returned home at lunch to find he had overturned a huge planter on my porch and pulled out all the dirt and plants. He also loves cans and will grab full ones and gnaw on them . ( I made a note to myself that I will no longer stack pet food cans by the pantry) Merlin tried to get the cans too but only after they have been opened. Robin grabbed everything in reach on the counter even tho I was prepared for this event that he may be a counter surfer. He grabbed the tea towel, dishcloth and sponge and shredded them. He does listen however when told NO if I catch him counter surfing. With the other items I decided not to yank them out of his mouth just walked by him and he dropped them , I would then casually pick them up. (what was left of them anyhow :O) I'm still confident that all will work out in the end although I know the top dog position is a biggie and will not be immediately solved and it may take as long as several months or up to a year to be peaceful around here. I'll continue with doggie obedience for Merlin and will also enroll Robin once I get to know him better. I will try to get my pictures developed (sorry no digital) and have them posted. Bye for now Marianne |
| We praise you Fairy Godmother to all OESes!!!
It is great that Robin is so cool, but now I wonder how he was treated in Hong Kong? As I have told Marianne, during our hour together, Robin was not aggressive, only missing his owner. However, when I spoke to his last kennel handler just before he departed and his comment was "Robin is one vicious b%@#*d" and "who'd want him, the person must be insane". So are the breeder, 2 vets, kennel handlers, foster parents, etc. all doing something wrong??? or did they really ship the wrong Dog hehehe |
| When I bought Winston into the house it was bedlam for about three months. I was totally exhausted, at one one point I just sat down and cried. After this Ben and winnie began to settle they grew to be inseperable and spent the rest of their lives together happy and protective of each other I remember when ben passed on winnie was devastated I am sure winnie pined for him until he passed on. I always remember the way they played together had fun together and got into mischief together.
I am so pleased to have Dougal now he has filled such a void and bought back so many stunning memories of Ben and Winnie. Best of luck with all the chappies. luv pepe |
| Marianne
It was good to see you on line again. I knew you were having your hands full with the boys, but I was getting worried and this morning I still didn't see a post on my email, so i just popped in quick, and there you were! Now I can get some work done today. Been worrying about you, but knew you were probably busy and exhausted.
Glad to hear that the boys are just being boys right now. Hopefully, it will remain this way. Odie was my counter surfer and I ended up putting pepper along the counters and eventually she stopped the habit. She also loved to take plastic dishes and cups out of the sink. Have you seen how many hits this story has taken  AMAZING!
We all love ya kiddo for what you have been able to do. Take care! |
| what a nice update! walter is jealous... he told me that mariannes house sounds way more fun than this house (he only has two birds to play with who dontl ike him much).
i am just so glad that robin is doing so well, it just goes to show what a little love can do for these animals. its also nice to see how much youre doing to make sure that merlin and blue feel comfortable as well good luck and keep us updated! |
| Lennon & Sofi are exited about the outcome of the story too... I know how hard it is to acclimate dogs to a new environment, and for what I hear, what Robin needed was just the love Marianne provides him now.
Congratulations Marianne, for all the effort you're putting trough to make shure that everyone in your family stays happy... Keep us posted! |
| WOW... that's all I can say. I began reading the thread a couple days ago and it left me on the brink of tears.... I'm so glad everything has turned out, and Marianne, I applaud you for your generosity, opening your home and heart to this poor boy, and to everyone who has had a hand in rescuing him. I'm not really surprised that he hasn't shown aggression, or the behaviours that were mentioned. I think that animals, even those, or maybe even especially those, who have lived through abuse, can sense when a person really loves them unconditionally, and is not going to hurt them. I know that sometimes an animal can be past the point of recognizing a person who wants to help and reacts badly to everyone, but I'm glad Robin doesn't seem to be at that point. I wish you and your family the best of luck.
One suggestion I have about getting the boys to get along, a friend of mine had a similar situation with great danes, a male pup they had sold got brought back to them via a rescue, he was badly abused and neglected and they were heartbroken that he had ended up like that, they took him back and kept him, but had a tough time getting him to be accpeted by their other 3 dogs, a boy and 2 girls, one was his sister. The males especially would fight, and that got the girls all riled up and fighting, so what these people did was gave each of the dogs kongs (rubber toys) with peanut butter in them to gnaw on when they were in the house together. It seemed to work, they all were being distracted, and all learned to lay quietly in the same room working away at their toys. She said it seemed this gave them the first calm minutes together to realize SHE was in charge, not them, if they started growling, she'd take away the kongs and only give them back when they quieted. Anyway, congrats again! |
Raggamuffin wrote: Marianne
It was good to see you on line again. I knew you were having your hands full with the boys, but I was getting worried and this morning I still didn't see a post on my email, so i just popped in quick, and there you were! Now I can get some work done today. Been worrying about you, but knew you were probably busy and exhausted.Thanks for expressing that Raggamuffin, I thought I was the only neurotic one out there could hardly sleep until I read her post/email. |
| Hi Everyone,
While I can't deny I was grumbling this morning as I found my toothbrushes lying in a heap in the bathroom in tiny pieces..LOL thanks to Robin! I found a success today although it's minor and I keep telling myself for every step forward it's usually two steps back but here goes. Last time I had all the dogs meet one on one..Merlin and Robin, Blue and Robin. I realized the dynamics of having all three together would cause Blue a lot of anxiety and Merlin would bark, bark, bark ...causing more anxiety. It's all trial and error but I'm also relying on gut instinct of what feels right. I realize having all three in the backyard at the same time is too soon , I have to be patient and only have two at one time. Returning home from work I took Robin for a walk, past the doggie park again on the outside of the fence. Then home for Merlin where it was his turn but we stopped at the dog park for an 1 hrs play. Then Blues turn around the neighborhood. ( Puff, Puff) Each had one on one time with me and each behaved wonderfully. Returning home it was allowing Blue and Robin in the backyard with me supervising, Merlin had to remain in the house. Although there was only one "moment" when Robin attempted to jump on me that I could see made Blue upset the 10 mins in the backyard went pretty well. I ended it on a successful note. Then Blue in the house and now Merlin's turn with Robin. These two are comical and Merlin is in heaven having found a dog that loves to chase him!! (His favorite activity at the dog park) as he usually does the chasing but prefers it the other way around. It would be so much easier I admit with only Merlin and Robin but ...there's Blue in the picture as well,which makes it a bit more challenging. I have only 2 more days to go then I'm off for a 4 day Easter Break so will have a few more hours to spend with the boys. Lastly I'm thinking of putting out a video tape called Buns of Steel and starting it with....first get three dogs......ha ha! Marianne Thanks again everyone whom offered advice! |
| Dear sheepie angel AKA: Marianne
Glad everything is going that way....you sound very exausted but I know in the end you`ll have a beautifull reward 3 loving dogs! thank you very much for keeping us updated on Robin and your boys. |
| It's me and can't believe an entire year has almost gone by since Panda aka Robin came into my life unexpectedly. Ha ha! Buns of Steel...forget that!! I'm the only woman that complains I no longer have a butt..nyuck nyuck..nope skinny..from three walks a day for a year.
It's been challenging but so rewarding to see this beautiful dog just thrive in his forever home. I've said it many times but something about this dog is special, perhaps the fact that he saved my son's life when he wrapped his body around him when he had a seizure. My teenage son stayed home from school one day and I found him unconcious and vomiting. I heard strange thumping noises and raced upstairs to find Panda had prevented my son from laying on his back by literally wrapping his body around him and frantically licking his arms. Or the way he looks at me or how everyone that has met him instantly fall in love with his friendly personality. At the offleash dog park he runs up to everyone with a full body wiggle, men, woman and children. He kisses the cats on their noses and will only give chase if Merlin starts it. He's the best behaved out of the three dogs and is the friendliest out of the bunch when meeting new buddies whether large or small. He's a gently giant. If he has any bad habit it's his barking when Merlin and Blue rough house as he's not welcome to join them. :O( Don't worry big guy it will happen eventually and you've come so far in a year. I love you Panda and so happy you came into my life. Mom |
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