Avalon almost choked Faith to death with the collar.....
Someone suggested those breakaway collars but since the groomer lost Merlin 2 years ago I am weary of using anything but a conventional collar. Here is the link to the collars I found.... www.cole-co.ca anyone have any suggestions for me? Thanks |
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| Kim,
I have Pippin's collar and leash hanging up on the hook next to my keys. When we go outside, he gets his collar/leash put on. When we come back in, it comes off and gets hung up. It takes about 2 seconds to get the collar on. He never has it on unsupervised... And it is easy to remember where it is, as it is always hung right up by the door. Would this work for your situation? |
| That wouldnt work for us here. We dont take the dogs for walks. I have only one dog that would ever want to go on a walk and now that we moved to the counrty there are no sidewalks to walk on. Since Merlin got lost a few years ago, he is terrified of cars and tries to bolt if a car drives by while he is on his leash. Faith just crumples into a ball if you even put a leash on her...we think she was hung on a leash by her previous owners. Avalon is the only dog we could walk but she cries if we take her and not the other 2 dogs.
Since we are in the country and on a very busy road, I really would like if all 3 could have a collar on at all times. Since Merlin got lost by the groomer without a collar on I am paranoid about the dogs. The link I gave is a good idea but what if you have to grab the dog? then the breakaway thing would release the collar and that might be a bad situation all over again. So you see my dilemma.... |
| Breakaway Collar, Microchip, Tattoo? |
| I just got the breakaway collar for all my dogs... My sister's dog choked herself to death a couple of months back. Both of my dogs are microchipped, but I want them to wear a collar just incase they get out of the yard. They work wonderfully.
There is a link for it on this post http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?t=4488 |
| I've heard too many stories about collars choking dogs. Both Tasker and Ty's collars (actually Ty wears a harness) come off as soon as they are in the house. I never leave a dog alone with a collar on.
That sounds REALLY scarey!!!! In the house you can remove the collar, I don't know wht you do if you are outside and they are playing. |
| I also live in the country, no sidewalks, busy road. My dogs only get their collars on when I am taking them out. In the yard and the house they have no collars on.
Once one of our foster homes had a rescue dog bolt on them, and she was lost for 2 days. She was found by a swamp, all tangled up in some bushes, by her collar. They only found her because she was thrashing and frightened when she heard the searchers. That terrifed me. Then one day Dixie got caught on some metal fencing at the dog park. Other dogs were jumping on her and she could not get away. She or Bosley no longer were their collars at the dog park. Mind you, I have all my dogs micro-chipped. |
| I am so glad they are OK, thank goodness you were home to hear them outside.
I have no collars on them for that very reason. Inside and outside, but I also have 7ft fences in the yard so they are safe outside to play without collars. They are both microchipped just in case there ever is an escape. |
Ron wrote: Breakaway Collar, Microchip, Tattoo?
Both Merlin and Avalon are tattooed... and Kim is looking into the breakaway collars, but as she mentioned, what good are they if you need to grab a dogs' collar fast and it breaks? Merlin and Avalon are so much like Dancer and Sky, so I think they are not likely to bolt out the door, but the point to a collar is "what if" You just never know, it's not often a dog takes off, gets lost, gets scared and bolts, or sees something irresistable to chase, but it happens..... so I too would want to at least feel more secure about being able to grab a collar if necessary, or if the dog got away, at least a collar provides identification. Microchips are useless for the average person who finds a dog, and really, a tattoo might not be much help either. A collar shows the dog already has a loving family and gives a simple phone number (vet's) so one would *hope* they don't just decide "awww it's so cute let's keep it" because they have no ability to scan for a chip and may not know what the tattoo means or how to track it. A tag I would hope at least nags at their conscience just a little bit. |
| If person finds a dog with no collar they should bring it to the nearest vet or shelter and have it scanned. If they don't , well, they are the type that wouldn't have even if it had a collar. They would take the collar off and throw it away.
In the house or out in the yard there is no reason to "grap a collar". That is how people get bitten. It is so important for a dog to have good recall. That takes training, and can save a life. There are many people on this forum who live without collars on their dogs in the house, with no problem. When I need to get a hold of Bosley I get a handful of fur, and if I need to get a hold of Dixie I put my arms around her little, scrawney neck and hold her by her chest. No problem. Easier than fumbling through a bunch of Bosley's fur looking for a collar, and I would be so afraid to hurt poor Dixie grabbing somethign around her neck. A collar is for tags and for walks on a leash, when off your property, as far as I'm concerned. I guess folks make their choices, and mine is that if my dog ever got loose he/she would be able to run from danger and not be trapped somewhere and die a slow death. |
| I'd guess that 90%+ of the dogs on the forum aren't under perfect voice recall control, including (especially?) my Mulligan.
I'd guess, and it's a pure guess, that it's more likely around where I live that my dog running free would be struck by an automobile rather than being caught by his collar at a tree and attacked by a coyote, although we have all three (cars, trees and coyotes)  .
Also Mullie is shaved so there's not much to hang onto. Hey! There's a great reason to ban docking! 
So Mulligan has a collar that can be grabbed, though I'm thinking breakaway might be in the cards. I haven't decided yet! |
| I have never heard of a breakaway collar.....links anyone? |
| http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?p=83806#83806 |
| You can grab and hold the dog by the breakaway collar. It only comes off if it is twisted, like during a struggle.
Also for walking you attach the collar to the two d-rings and it will not come apart under any circumstances. I have a 6 ft blockwall around the property, but god forbid the landscapers leave the gate open and my dogs get out they will have identification other than the microchip. |
| That's good to know... I knew it had the two rings to use for a leash, but I wasn't sure how much "give" exactly it has... in an emergency it is not likely the dog is moving slow, otherwise it wouldn't be an emergency.... |
| I have grabbed Pepsi by the collar when he is up to no good.
It does not release very easily for an inline release. It does release much easier when twisted. |
| My dogs are not 100% reliable on recall. I would say that Merlin is 90% but Faith and Avalon have a LONG way to get anywhere near that. And Avalon and I went to dog school. Somedays I think Avalon doesnt even know her name. (can dogs have ADHD? because I am certain sometimes there is really something wrong with Avalon's attention span) Faith being an abused rescue and being new to us is still learning that we will never hurt her and becoming more trusting of us every day.
My dogs never leave our back yard. We used to take them to the park for running but since we now have lots of acreage the park is unnecessary. We are in the process of fencing in the play yard and have a temporary dog run set up at the moment but by the end of the weekend the dogs will have 2 acres to play in supervised. If I can't be with them outside they are in the dog run. When I have to go out...the dogs are crated. Two of my dogs are tatooed, the other is microchipped. Having gone thru the worry of a lost dog....I wouldnt want to go thru that again. A collar with the tags that is reliable to use for every day and yet still be safe enough that the choking wont happen again would be wonderful. Thank you Elissa for letting us know that the breakaway collar really does work. I will be contacting the canadian rep tomorrow to order for my dogs. |
Glad that you found something that will work for you Kim! Let us know how it goes!!! |
Bosley's mom wrote: If person finds a dog with no collar they should bring it to the nearest vet or shelter and have it scanned. If they don't , well, they are the type that wouldn't have even if it had a collar. They would take the collar off and throw it away.
In all fairness, I do think there are a lot of people, particularly older people, that may care about animals but not even realize that microchip technology exists so they wouldn't even think to have a pet scanned. I don't like keeping collars on my dogs at all. Bear and Clyde don't wear them except on walks. Lucy wears hers only because she freaks out of she has it off. Hers is a solid buckling collar that can't adjust as easily as the snap collars. On the rare occasion that I have to grab them, I never use the collar, I usually just grab the whole dog. Clyde and Bear are great on recall but, to us, it was most important to teach them not to bolt. (Lucy's too old to care what's at the front door most of the time!) When the front door opens, they stay seated. Clyde is pretty good but Bear still needs work on consistency. My guys can't jump so no worries about them going over the fence if they're in the yard, or under it since we reinforced it and they're way too big. Plus, they're almost never outside unattended. Especially now that I have Bear, I can't rely on anything involving strength because he'll probably weigh more than me by the end of the year. Add in Clyde and Lucy and really good training is the only chance I've got! |
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