Should we get an OES?
Share with us? Love, Hermann and Karen |
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| If you live in an apartment- be aware of the noise issue. My puppy Pippin is constantly "talking" to us barking, growling, yipping, whining... your neighbors may not appreciate all that noise. also- remember that puppies go through a teething stage- when they chew on everything in sight including you, your clothes, and possibly items in the apartment that are NOT YOURS- like the baseboards or wood trim. Not to mention the potty and poo accidents that go along with potty training.
If you're willing to deal with those major issues... then go for it! If not, you might want to consider an adult rescue instead, that has outgrown much of the behavioral issues puppies go through. |
| I definitely agree about the noise issue. Even more if you aren't on the first floor. Yuki ALWAYS POUNCES on the floor especially when she's playing or excited ...and no doubt the neighbors can hear it. We lived on the first floor and it still concerned us when we lived in an apt. We wouldn't have gotten an OES AT ALL if we were going to be living an apt. long term ....personally. Ours was very temporary. The barking is very loud and piercing imo ...but you may end up with a non barker. It can work though. Those are just things to really consider. You dont' want to get kicked out of your apt, and then decide you're not sure what to do with your dog (if it's hard to find NICE affordable places that allow dogs this size in apts in your area ...as it is in many places)
Another thing was... the size of your apt and/or the willingness to exercise your dog. There's no way our dog would have been happy longterm in our small apt. We had to make sure she got plenty of time on walks. Thankfully there was a duck pond across the street. Every day at 4-5 p.m. ...she would chase the ducks and turtles. haha I think other issues would be at play too, and I don't think I know enough about your situation. I think $$$ is a very important factor in owning a dog. So many are turned in because they cost so much. Then there's the grooming.... |
| Hey.... thanks for the replies (=. Yeah, we were talking about the issues you guys mentioned, like the chewing and the peeing and the poopooing. Well, it's kinda like we can talk about it and say "yeah, it'd come." but we don't know how it'd be like when those things do happen. (= But thanks really. And, we'd tell you guys soon when we get our pup! (= Cos like in Singapore, we have to wait for a pretty long time before one arrives to the farm. We needa order it and all. (= And we were thinking of calling it "blanky"!!! (=  |
That's an adorable name. 
Until you get your OES, you should join in on the many discussions ...and ask as many questions as possible about them here The people here are the most informative about the breed!  |
| I think alot depends on how determined you are to have a sheepie...... Tasker is 10 years old, when he came home at 6 weeks I lives out in the country with lots of land and a huge house. Before he was 4 months old I unexpectedly found myself living in a much different situation. I had no yard and very little living space. We lived there for the next 7 years. It took lots of determination and work but we managed. You'll need to make sure your puppy gets plenty of exercise outside the home and especially if you live in the city walks will be carrying "poop" bags. On the weekends we drove to the country for "outings".
We are now back out in the country and loving it. I'm glad we survived the "cramped and crowded" years  Good Luck with your decision. |
| I think a lot of it depends on the dog. My parents' sheepdog has never been a barker. She only barks when there is a stranger at the door (my parents don't get unknown visitors very often) and she also sometimes barks if she is outside and my parents don't come to let her in fast enough. But that is only a bark every 30 seconds or so. MY sheepdog Barney hasn't barked much either. The first week we had him I didn't think he COULD bark! lol He'll sometimes bark outside, but not often.
When my parent's dog was a puppy she chewed all the baseboards in the kitchen (where we kept her when we were gone) and that was about it for destruction. My sheepdog chewed the tile floor in our kitchen, but that was all his destruction. Sheepdogs can be good apartment dogs because they like the lie around and sleep and watch tv, but they also need exercise, so that would be important to make sure your puppy gets exercise, otherwise they like to use their energy in things like chewing the tiles in the kitchen! |
| you know i heard about caning... does anyone do that? i mean you know, if the dog is all naughty, do you cane it? like give it a small hit or do you just scold it?
and barking... is it all a matter of training? and if so how do you do it? the farm's not replied us yet. =( we don't know if they'd get the oes for us. and we're praying hard!   |
| ABSOLUTELY NEVER HIT YOUR DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Use positive reinforcement ALWAYS. The worst thing you can do is to hit a dog or even to scold it. Dogs learn to be mean and aggressive when you hit and yell. I am not sure what you mean by "caneing", I hope you don't mean using a stick. |
| NO CANING! This dog will be your best friend and you'd never do that to a friend, right? You should have a firm voice with your pup, but DO NOT HIT. Pups need positive reinforcement, nothing negative. Such as if he goes pee in front of you on the carpet, you say "No" or "Uh oh", pick him up gently, and calmly walk outside or to papers to finish his business. You put him down and say "potty" or "pee pee"... When he does his business in the appropriate spot, you should act like it's the best thing in the world! Clap, jump around, say "good boy"..whatever to ensure he knows you are happy with him. Dogs respond to happiness, not negativity. You don't want him to fear you. He lives to make you happy! Please look for some dog training books at your library, bookstore or online. Ron has a great list online with links to Amazon. Please check it out! |
| Hi,
I'd agree with the others...never hit. It will not produce the result you want but turn your dog into an fearful and aggressive one instead. They learn that hands and sticks are to be feared and when an unsuspecting child or adult brings their hand down to give them a pat on the head - it may result in a bite as that's what the dog has learned. It's not enough to teach them to stop unacceptable behavior with a firm NO but to show them an alternative behavior right away. Example: Pup goes to the bathroom in the house...you pick them up with no reprimand ..take them outside..they go...lots of praise,,,good boy! good girl! The positive reinforcement always works far better than negative ones which sadly the dog usually takes the brunt of it as a result. Good luck to you and should you get a dog , we'll be here for you. Just remember pups are a huge responsibility and it will take a lot of work the first couple months. Marianne and the boys |
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