tounge-tied child
We just moved from the state therapist for the 0-3 program to the school district's therapy program since he's starting kindergarten this fall. We had a meeting with them, and they had a speech therapist, a liason person with the school district, and a nurse in there. Come to find out, Jakob is tounge-tied. It's not an obvious case of it, his tounge just dimples when he sticks it out, but it is enough to affect his speech. So, his speech needs to be worked on. Thankfully, everything else he was tested in (all areas were required to see if he needed therapy for anything else) was above his age level, so I guess I'm doing okay as a mother so far.  That was nice to hear. I've been nervous about him starting kindergarten, and they told me he was more than ready - not to worry.
I was worried because he's so quiet, it's hard to figure out what he actually does know and what he doesn't. He usually won't say his alphabet or runs through it fast skipping a lot of letters, for example. Then, we have something like the other day. We were having storms and were under a tornado watch. Jake said "hope we don't have a tornado" I told him that I hope we didn't, too. Then, he went on to tell me that tornadoes are caused when hot air and cold air fight and make strong winds. Little more detailed than that, but pretty good for a 4 year old. I've never taught him about weather (have a degree in meteorology), he hasn't learned about tornadoes at preschool, so Jason & I are wondering how in the heck he knew that. Maybe he picked up on that in the womb since I spent my last semester of college pregnant with him, lol That's my only guess. My 3 year old is the talker and attention getter of the family. He picks up on everything, so I was worried I was doing something wrong with Jake since things like the ABCs, songs, etc.. come easy to Brandon, but Jake seems to have to work really hard at them. 
Anyway back on topic, since his tounge-tiedness (is that a word? lol) is not so bad, their train of thought is to try therapy first, teaching him to pronounce certain sounds. If that doesn't work out, we're going to have to see a doctor and schedule surgery to have his tounge clipped. I'm hoping the therapy helps, but I want to prepare myself for the surgery also. I was just wondering if anyone here had experience with it, and if so, how terrible is it? I've read it's a pretty easy procedure, but it sounds painful... I'm wondering if anyone here has had/knows anyone who has had this surgery and how it went. I can't find anyone who has experience with this, so apparently, it's not very common.... |
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My brother and I both had our frenenulum linguae cut just before going to kindergarten. I don't know if it is genetic or not. But we are twins and were both born with what was called, back then, tongue tied. "Back in the day" they also called it speaking "dutchy" (that would have been over 45 years ago) they didn't do speech therapy tehn, and all that they did just send you to the dentist, who gave you lots of novacaine and clipped it. I don't remember it being paticularly traumatic or painful. I do remember my parents making it lots of "fun". We got to eat ice cream and popsicles for days and got lots of presents  I specifically remember getting a stuffed white kitty that was covered in some kind of bunny fur and promptly dropping it in the toilet............. |
| Gail, I don't know anything about the tongue-tied condition, but I wish you guys the best.
I'm REALLY impressed that Jake knows so much about tornados. Wow! He could probably teach me a thing or two. |
| I don't know anything about this either, but I'm glad that it is just being tongue tied and not something more serious. The tongue heals very quickly, so I'm sure any procedure that you might have to have done will be okay.
As for Jake being quiet, sometimes that's a good thing! It is just very interesting to see the differences in kids. My older brother is (and always has been) very quiet--in school never made a ruckus, although he spoke freely at home, but is an introvert and always on the reserved side. Me, on the other hand (we'll call it middle child syndrome) I was loud and attention wanting and had to be sent out of class for giggling...things like that...and my little brother is somewhere in between. Of course you're a good mom--I guess it's just nice to hear it from a professional that you're doing the right things! |
Today was a busy day! Sorry I didn't get back to this sooner. It was 80 and sunny here today, so we took advantage of it and spent the day at the park. The boys fell asleep EARLY tonight. 
Thanks everyone. Ginny, if he does need the surgery, I'll be sure to stock up on some yummy ice cream for him. I think he'll like surgery if he gets to eat ice cream for a few days! lol It's usually a once a week treat around here. |
floofdog wrote: Gail, I don't know anything about the tongue-tied condition, but I wish you guys the best.
I'm REALLY impressed that Jake knows so much about tornados. Wow! He could probably teach me a thing or two. I know. We were too. I think we just sat there with our mouths wide open for a few minutes not knowing how to react to it, lol He surprised us the other day adding and subtracting on his fingers, and we're honestly just shocked. I have NO idea where he's picking up on this stuff. I'm still trying to get him to learn his alphabet, much less adding and subtracting. |
barney1 wrote: Of course you're a good mom--I guess it's just nice to hear it from a professional that you're doing the right things! aww, thanks. Yep, I'm always questioning myself. I've been an at home mom, so they haven't had much experience other than being at home with me. I was a little worried about that, and he still seems so little to be going to kindergarten. I'm NOT ready to let him go, lol, but I know it's for the best. It was a relief to hear that he's doing okay though, especially since his preschool teacher had made suggestions that he wasn't... We've taken him out of that program, put him in another, and he's a MUCH happier kid now. I think he just wasn't comfortable at the first place. Jake is quiet, but he warms up to people fast by hugging them, helping with things, etc... It wasn't like him to not like being somewhere, especially around other kids. That and his speech problems were my biggest worries. I feel a lot better about him going to kindergarten now, but I'm still not ready for that major step. |
| Gail,
Ryan didn't start to put together sentences until 3 1/2 yrs old. He started Speech therapy at 18 mos old. He has a Tongue Thrust problem which is causing his to not be able to pronounce L's R's and D's. At 7 1/2 now the kid just doesn't shut up...lol For Ryan's problem I was told he would need an orthodontic appliance to help the tongue move correctly. Ryan won't even get in a chair for the Dentist, I am sure he won't get in a chair for the orthodontist 
I was also told that the problem he has was caused by excessive pacifier use. He finally kicked the habit at 6 yrs old. |
Presents, don't forget presents  |
| Yeah, presents!
One of my favorite childhood memories is that whenever I was sick, Dad would bring home a present for me. I remember a gyroscope, some books, a Whizzer (remember those?), and a Fisher Price circus, my favorite. I bet he already knows his alphabet, he's just tired of being taught it.  He'll probably start writing novels soon. |
| Hello,
I just found this web site. I have been in oral surgery for 9 years and child development for the last 15 I hope you go through with the visit to to oral surgen or dentist to get his toung clipped. It is sore for several days , however the results are so great. I have seen many speech delays, and many are hard to over come, Plase look at it for the long term I wish you the best ,I would like to know what you decision was as to share with other parents. JakobandBrandonsmom wrote: Has anyone had experience with being tounge-tied as a child or a child with it? Jakob, my oldest, has always had problems with speech. He was a slow talker (nearly 3), he pronounces his words a little off, etc.. We've had him in speech therapy pretty much since the age of 2. We just moved from the state therapist for the 0-3 program to the school district's therapy program since he's starting kindergarten this fall. We had a meeting with them, and they had a speech therapist, a liason person with the school district, and a nurse in there. Come to find out, Jakob is tounge-tied. It's not an obvious case of it, his tounge just dimples when he sticks it out, but it is enough to affect his speech. So, his speech needs to be worked on. Thankfully, everything else he was tested in (all areas were required to see if he needed therapy for anything else) was above his age level, so I guess I'm doing okay as a mother so far. That was nice to hear. I've been nervous about him starting kindergarten, and they told me he was more than ready - not to worry. I was worried because he's so quiet, it's hard to figure out what he actually does know and what he doesn't. He usually won't say his alphabet or runs through it fast skipping a lot of letters, for example. Then, we have something like the other day. We were having storms and were under a tornado watch. Jake said "hope we don't have a tornado" I told him that I hope we didn't, too. Then, he went on to tell me that tornadoes are caused when hot air and cold air fight and make strong winds. Little more detailed than that, but pretty good for a 4 year old. I've never taught him about weather (have a degree in meteorology), he hasn't learned about tornadoes at preschool, so Jason & I are wondering how in the heck he knew that. Maybe he picked up on that in the womb since I spent my last semester of college pregnant with him, lol That's my only guess. My 3 year old is the talker and attention getter of the family. He picks up on everything, so I was worried I was doing something wrong with Jake since things like the ABCs, songs, etc.. come easy to Brandon, but Jake seems to have to work really hard at them. Anyway back on topic, since his tounge-tiedness (is that a word? lol) is not so bad, their train of thought is to try therapy first, teaching him to pronounce certain sounds. If that doesn't work out, we're going to have to see a doctor and schedule surgery to have his tounge clipped. I'm hoping the therapy helps, but I want to prepare myself for the surgery also. I was just wondering if anyone here had experience with it, and if so, how terrible is it? I've read it's a pretty easy procedure, but it sounds painful... I'm wondering if anyone here has had/knows anyone who has had this surgery and how it went. I can't find anyone who has experience with this, so apparently, it's not very common.... |
t martin wrote: Hello,
I just found this web site. I have been in oral surgery for 9 years and child development for the last 15 I hope you go through with the visit to to oral surgen or dentist to get his toung clipped. It is sore for several days , however the results are so great. I have seen many speech delays, and many are hard to over come, Plase look at it for the long term I wish you the best ,I would like to know what you decision was as to share with other parents. JakobandBrandonsmom wrote: Has anyone had experience with being tounge-tied as a child or a child with it? Jakob, my oldest, has always had problems with speech. He was a slow talker (nearly 3), he pronounces his words a little off, etc.. We've had him in speech therapy pretty much since the age of 2. We just moved from the state therapist for the 0-3 program to the school district's therapy program since he's starting kindergarten this fall. We had a meeting with them, and they had a speech therapist, a liason person with the school district, and a nurse in there. Come to find out, Jakob is tounge-tied. It's not an obvious case of it, his tounge just dimples when he sticks it out, but it is enough to affect his speech. So, his speech needs to be worked on. Thankfully, everything else he was tested in (all areas were required to see if he needed therapy for anything else) was above his age level, so I guess I'm doing okay as a mother so far. That was nice to hear. I've been nervous about him starting kindergarten, and they told me he was more than ready - not to worry. I was worried because he's so quiet, it's hard to figure out what he actually does know and what he doesn't. He usually won't say his alphabet or runs through it fast skipping a lot of letters, for example. Then, we have something like the other day. We were having storms and were under a tornado watch. Jake said "hope we don't have a tornado" I told him that I hope we didn't, too. Then, he went on to tell me that tornadoes are caused when hot air and cold air fight and make strong winds. Little more detailed than that, but pretty good for a 4 year old. I've never taught him about weather (have a degree in meteorology), he hasn't learned about tornadoes at preschool, so Jason & I are wondering how in the heck he knew that. Maybe he picked up on that in the womb since I spent my last semester of college pregnant with him, lol That's my only guess. My 3 year old is the talker and attention getter of the family. He picks up on everything, so I was worried I was doing something wrong with Jake since things like the ABCs, songs, etc.. come easy to Brandon, but Jake seems to have to work really hard at them. Anyway back on topic, since his tounge-tiedness (is that a word? lol) is not so bad, their train of thought is to try therapy first, teaching him to pronounce certain sounds. If that doesn't work out, we're going to have to see a doctor and schedule surgery to have his tounge clipped. I'm hoping the therapy helps, but I want to prepare myself for the surgery also. I was just wondering if anyone here had experience with it, and if so, how terrible is it? I've read it's a pretty easy procedure, but it sounds painful... I'm wondering if anyone here has had/knows anyone who has had this surgery and how it went. I can't find anyone who has experience with this, so apparently, it's not very common.... Thanks. This post is about 6 months old, and I'm happy to say that therapy is doing him wonders! He's still having trouble with some blending sounds, but he's still in therapy too. This has been ongoing since age 2 for us (he was a VERY late talker - almost 4, but he was a late walker and everything else too), so it's routine. Now...his new therapist says that his tounge isn't tied, so I am not sure. If it is, it's just barely...his tounge only has a tiny dimple when he sticks it out. |
| I can add a little bit.
When I was in high school I worked at the local grain elevator (Stillwater, MN) and my boss had the surgery done. He said it was OK, and recovered quickly. He had a bit of a thick sounding speech before - we (employees) had always attributed it from him being from North Dakota! I'm not sure why he did it in his adult years, but I know that he said it wasn't a horrible procedure, or anything like that. Good luck with Jacob. |
| Kids are amazing....it never ceases to amaze me what they learn and where they learn it from! Jacob sounds like one of those amazing kids...keeps it all in until he has a need to use all that information that he has gathered!
Lisa and I had a ''speech impediment"....the teachers in kindergarten didnt like how we spoke...they said that we sounded like we were from Boston..(sorry Ron). They put me in speech therapy and it corrected both of us.....lol.... |
My daughter is tongue tied and we just found out just before she turned 5. She always had that baby talk and I could never figure out why she was not growing out of it and than my sister told me that her youngest son was tongue tied and she looked at my daughter Mackenzie's tongue and said that she had the same thing.  We have her in speech therepy now and it is helping a little but her therepist thinks it will help a great deal if she has the surgery to get her tongue clipped. |
| My daughter Jacinda is tounge tied. We had her to a surgeon when she was 1 1/2 years old. He said to wait and see if it affected her speech. So we waited untill she started to speak and it didn't affect it. So we left it alone the surgeon's response was why fix something that's not wrong. Well now she is 6 1/2 years old and our dentist reffered us to a oral surgeon who said it needs to be clipped. The reason being that her tounge is attached to the gum line and it pulls her gums away from her teeth and in time could cause problems like gum disease in the future. We are schedueled for surgery in May. We feel that this is the best decision. Now I just had another baby 2 months ago and she is partically toung tied and we are considering getting her done as soon as possible. My sister in-law who works in the OR say's it is more common than you would think and where she works most newborns have thier tounges clipped before they leave the hospital. |
| My cousin, and her daughter (who is now 20ish) both had the surgery. The recovery was quick, and they are both fine now, and you'd never know. If speech theorpy doesn't work, don't shy away from the surgery. OK? |
| My son was born with his tongue tied, he had surgery at two weeks old and has never had a problem since. He could drink a bottle soon after he woke up. When my daughter was born she had a slight case that was fixed in the doctors office with no meds for pain(not needed), she went home and had her bottle. It is genetic, my husbands cousin also had it. Never wait to have it fixed, why put your children through the therapy and teasing from other kids. |
| I have no idea what to tell you other than you're an awesome mommy & you know it! Give the kids hugs for me! |
My little niece Alayna had hers clipped when she was 9 weeks old. Her little tongue wouldn't even peak out of her mouth- and it was affecting her ability to suck. 30 minutes in the pediatric surgeon's office and we were on our way. Ashley- her Mommy and myself cried and cried. Alayna never even whimpered. They clipped it- and that little tongue came rolling out like a frog zapping a fly!  |
| Joan wants to know if "normal" folks like me and short tongued gals like her can get theirs clipped at this age, and how much longer will it be? |
Ron wrote: Joan wants to know if "normal" folks like me and short tongued gals like her can get theirs clipped at this age, and how much longer will it be?
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| Roll your eyes all you want, it was a serious question. |
| My 3 yr old has had speech therapy since he was one we kept putting off the surgery to correct the problem. He started school in September because of his speech problems we had his surgery the 1st week of October. He was in surgery Monday and back to school on Thursday he has been talking alot more and more clearier than before. Surgey was quick and the doctor was great I drove an hour out of town just to find a good doctor I was comfortable with..Good luck! |
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