wolf/german shepard mix??
 He ended up being neglected, so i took him to live with me, now he is a happy well adjusted, trained and socialized doggy. My dad knows a lady that has a wolf, pure although i haven;t seen any papers, and she looks more of a Siberian Husky to me, who wants to breed te two together!!! She has a cross like that now, he is uper old, so i guess she is just wanting another cross like that for when Gus crosses the rainbow bridge. I just am not sure about it. SHe hasn;t wnet into heat but... SHe used to be a police woman here in Abilene. SHe actually was on the K9 unit with Gus(the wolf /german shepard mix). She has trained both her dogs with the tactical training of the police force dogs, and has offered to train King(my german shepard) if i let her breed zoey(her wolf). Gus is a great looking dog, very very unique looking. I am just not sure about everything i need to check out. Any advice would be great. B/c for all intents and purposes King is mine, and i don;t want to do anything to hurt either breed
Shannon |
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| Shannon, just out of curiosity, why would someone want to breed a wolf with a dog? Wouldn't it be kind of scary to a have a part wolf animal in your house? |
| that's what i thought!!! But i have met her wolf and she is very very smart and well trained. I think her mannerism are a lot like the siberian huskeys that i have met, her coat is gorgeous. But apparently Gus her german shepard and wolf mix is about 14 years old and they just live day by day with him. She wants to experiance another "Gus" is my understanding?!?!?
Shannon |
bestdogsx4 wrote: Shannon, just out of curiosity, why would someone want to breed a wolf with a dog? Wouldn't it be kind of scary to a have a part wolf animal in your house?
Actually wolves and dogs are the same species, the EXACT same species. However, wolves have natural instincts intact and are not meant to be pets. |
srw808 wrote: My dad knows a lady that has a wolf, pure although i haven;t seen any papers,
A wild animal wouldn't have "papers" |
| I have heard of many people that breed wolf hybrids and in parts of the country this is extremely controversial. Wolves are not domestic animals and there are many cases where they hybrids have been extremely aggressive. In many areas, I believe they are prohibited and recently heard about a shelter in east TN or NC where they take in the dogs that have been abandoned by their owners because they cannot handle them. This is a large area WAY out in the middle of nowhere.
I think they are beautiful and once thought of having one, but after all I have read, and having had one very aggressive german shepherd that didn't like anyone but me, I wouldn't consider it. Like all dogs, I'm sure with the right owner/ handler they are very loving, obedient and like I said before, beautiful animals. |
| Aside from my sheepdogs, I have also bred and shown Alaskan Malamutes. There is a clause I as well as many other reputable breeders put in our contracts- and that is my pup shall never be bred to a wolf or wolf hybrid.The Alaskan Malamutes as well as the Siberians are usually the breed of choice to be bred to wolves. There is a reason for this clause in my contract. First of all, there are laws against this-which vary by Country/State/Province. Wolf hybrids are unsuitable for a usual household pet setting due to their hereditary hyperactivity, destructiveness, dominance and predatory behavior toward animals and people (especially children). Rabies vaccination protocols have not been proven reliable in wolves and hybrids. These are just a few reasons I have, and again just my opinion. |
| Hi,
Thanks for taking the time to ask our opinion. I'd say a big NO. In my province of British Columbia, this was very common to do and sadly the consequences were horrible for the outcome of many of these dogs. I am very suprised someone with her knowledge would even consider breeding wolf hybrids. They are not suitable as family pets and have been known to rip apart a couch and dig out the contents to create a den like atmosphere. Wolves by nature are very shy and are not suitable for any police training let alone living with humans. I love wolves but they belong in nature and not kept as a family pet. Wonder what she would do with the other pups? They may go off to others that wouldn't spay or neuter them and the cycle begins. The link which I've listed below is pretty graphic so be forewarned as to what happened when the demand was up for wolf hybrids. Out of the 50 dogs seized in one case...8 months later after being kept at the Humane Society only 3 were deemed to even be socialable enough to live with humans..eventually 47 were put down. http://www.animaladvocates.com/beaverdell-topaz.htm Thanks so much for asking our opinion and you already know what your gut instinct tells you. I'm hoping you make the right decision. Marianne and the boys  |
| I used to pet sit for two wolf hybirds. Sweet, beautiful girls.. You have to have a special license to have them in Mississippi now though. These girls were socialized extremely well, well trained, etc... so I don't know if they were exceptions of what to expect or not. |
| just passing through, don't know if this topic is still being discussed, but I would like to add.
Wolf Dog crosses are in trouble. In many states they have been banned or regulated. This due to PEOPLE, not the animals. Bad greedy breeders with no knowledge of genetics have flooded the dog world with animals that don't go to qualified homes. The biggest differences with these dogs is that they grow fast, are smarter than most breeds, stronger in many cases, require special diet, experienced large animal handling, escape proof containment, and a lot of patience. If you raise them successfully, a Wolf Dog will be as loyal and committed as an animal can be to it's caregiver. The first 3 years they are definately a challenge. Anyone who has owned a Wolfdog for it's life will testify that there is nothing like it and will likely do it again. They should be regulated by people who know. Bred by qualified breeders only, and owned by qualified owners only. All large breed dogs are plagued by uneducated groups of lawmakers. In the 70's it was the Doberman that they wanted outlawed, then the Rottweiler, and Pit Bulls get a bad rap everywhere because of the PEOPLE who own them irresponsibly. Recently in Florida, a child was mauled to near death by a Yellow Lab. FAULT?? The mother of the child who allowed her to wander into her neighbor's yard. FAULT, the owners of the CHAINED dog. Unless you have a clue about breeding Wolf dogs, I suggest you DON'T. my website with links to more info. http://www.sjblues.com/chillispage.cfm |
| You can now get a wolf looking dog....
http://www.tamaskan-dog.com/Information/info.htm They are in no way wolves, but look like them. They are a cross of German Shepherd, Husky and Malamute |
| Many years ago I had a wolf she was 100% pure from Alaska. They are a bit hard when they are pure to take care of. Yet when I later on in years had a mix breed husky and wolf it was a good dog. He was the best dog I have ever had. He was great with my kids, and he was great with us. He was very protective of his family though.
We loved Nikki and hated to put him down but he was old and we finally had to have him put to sleep. I now have what they called in Maine an American husky. Which is smaller then a Siberian. But I have been thinking about getting another hybrid. Where we live now we need a good protector and Raina my husky isnt it. She is very calm and quiet and will let anyone in my house. When you have kids and know there lives could be in danger you know you need a good protector that will be there companion for life. To me that is a hybrid. Pits are not good for my kids.( my now 7 year old lost half of her face to a pit when she was 2) And my daughter saw me be attacked by a German shepard when she was 4 years old so she is scared of them. So that left me with finding the right dog I believe that a hybrid is the only way to go. But if anyone has any other ideas please add them. Thanks, Hilda |
| Why not get your GSD neutered so you don't have to agonize over "doing the right thing"?
Breeding your dog with a wild animal sounds irresponsible and totally unethical to me. |
| My old roommate had a hybrid and he was a great dog, very protective of the house and us. Never once heard him bark but he would howl like crazy. you just have to have a lot of land for them to roam. Also a very tall fence. Not sure i would breed though. By the way how can a pure wolf have papers??? |
Quote: Why not get your GSD neutered so you don't have to agonize over "doing the right thing"?
Now there's a thought. You are having reservations.......something is bothering you. Is it you don't want to be part of contributing in making a litter of wolf dogs for that lady's convenience when you aren't sure the world needs more wolf dogs or what will happen with the rest of the pups? Good concern. Too often wolf dogs are not adopted by people knowledgeable in their care and they end up being euthanized or (if lucky) in a wolf dog rescue facility. Are you feeling pressured.....then back off. Let your "gut" tell you want is right. |
| As some folks on this forum know I have a GSD and have been very involved with GSD rescue (Mid Atlantic German Shepherd Rescue) I know the breed very well. My thought NO! NO !NO !NO! NO!!! and no. Why not take your sheepdog and breed it with a pug??Could be the same but wolfs are wolfs, some states ban crosses and owning wolfs. We have had some crosses come through our rescue and they were nice dogs but hard to contain. Why ??they had wolf in them. If your dog is bred so well and has "what it takes" then why would you want to breed with a wolf????? This may seem rude but I don't know why you even ask, please get your dog neutered ,aside from considering to breed to a wolf there are health reasons to have this done. Wolfs do not have papers. I am glad you asked before considering this but sigh.......................Want more opinions check with local GSD rescues and GSD clubs. |
| I just wanted to point out that the original post was in March 2006. |
| Wolvs and dogs are NOT the exact same species. They are very closely reated but not the same. Wolves are Canis Lupis while dogs are Canis Domesticus.n They are members of the same genus but not the same species. Sorry the biologist come out in me at times. |
| I appologize my son just informed me that I was wrong about dogs they are canis familerius not Canis domisticus. For those of you that care the red fox is not even a canis, the red fox is Vulpes fulva and the coyoye is canis latrans. I guess that I qualify as a geek. |
| Nerd alert! |
| The key differences from what I have read about wolves and dogs is that, domesticated canines typically have less of an adrenal response to fear, as well as evolving to look for and understand human facial expressions as well as hand gestures. There was an interesting study done in germany on wild foxes. They would separate and breed based on level of aggression. The passive ones were easier to train therefore easier to domesticate, and within a couple generations of breeding they began to take on physical differences from their wild counterparts, such as curled tail, and white patches of fur. The wild foxes were black. I would think that since the root of the domestic dog is the wolf it would actually be imperative breed them with their domestic counterparts just for the simple reason that inbreeding has cut off a certain amount of genetic diversity. Genetic diversity seems to be a good combatant against genetic defects, wich are becoming increasingly prevalent with many popular breeds. For instance the german shepherds hip dysplacia might be able to be stamped out by providing some genetic diversity, then close the loop. There is an interesting thing about dogs and their genetic memory. Pointers are a good example. What they are doing is counter to a dogs nature. There major command is to not intercept food but to only alert of its location. A very unnatural thing for an animal who is driven by survival to do. This trait has been so ingrained into the breed that a pointer, who practices its trade can have a litter. The puppies will begin to carry on those traits without training. I think that is a good example as many of the puppies who exhibited this were separated from the parent. Obviously some breeds will be more difficult to breed with wolves, I just think we should do what we can. Like with Labs and Shepherds I think the cross would be easy. |
| Also to note. A hybrid would be a very high energy animal and would require vigorous exercise to inhibit bad behaviors. Like a ranch dog they will be highly motivated. Idol hands are the devils playground. Even for canines. |
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