grooming aggressive dog

Hello all! It's about that time here in O.K. for my pups to get their summer hair cut. For those of you who don't know- Buckley (2 yr. old, 90 lb, pound puppy) has aggressive issues and though he had gotten MUCH better around us and friends, grooming is still a big issue. Because he has made such good progress, I want to make sure I try to re-introduce the groomig thing as gently as possible so that we don't have any set backs. For the last couple of weekends I've put his mussel on then make him lie down (treat him) then have him roll over on his side (treat him) then manually (with scissors) cut the hair on this belly and around the "privates". Generally I'm petting him with one hand and cutting the hair with the other. This will usually last about 10-15 min. before he gets tired of it. SO- should I continue as is and just stop earlier (i.e. stop on my terms not his)? Is the mussel good/bad (I don't want him to think he's in trouble- I do treat him a lot while it's on)? His feet are getting matted and I've put this next step off as long as I can (last summer we had to have the vet sedate him and shave him down!) Any advice will be greatly appreciated. My ultimate goal is to be able to shave him with the clippers (right now the noise scares him and he tries to eat them), but at least for this summer, if I can the "hard" parts with the scissors I'll be happy.

Thanks in advace for all of your advice!
Cindy and the Monsters :D
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Hello fellow Okie,

How ya'll doing in T-town? :lol: I am not sure if I will be of any help for you, but we went out of town once and Jack and Annabelle stayed at my moms. It was the first time they had ever stayed out there and they came back to us with a lot of stickers in their fur and between their pads. They have always been good at grooming, but in this case they were not at all, because it was painful. Anyway, to make a long story short, we called our vet and told them we were having grooming problems and they right away got us some meds to relax them and we gave them one each and let it get into their system and started getting all the stickers off. They didn't give us a bit of trouble and even slept as we groomed. I don't know if this is something you would want to do, but it did help us once. Oh, what about just leaving the clipper on for awhile so the noise becomes just background noise. Then as you bring the clippers toward them, give them a treat as you go. I hope you are able to get it done without much of trouble. Stormi
To answer your questions, sounds like you are doing what you can so far. You should always make sure YOU end the session and not the dog. But now that you have been going 15 minutes at a time for a while it is time to extend that time.
Wish I lived closer. I think he just needs a strong hand to guide him through his fears. I am not sure putting a muzzle on him is a good idea, because YOU feel you need it, which means YOU have some fear ... which the dog will notice.. They are great at reading body language.

The treats are a good idea, but give them for specific reasons. Tell the dog to sit (while the clippers are on somewhere in the vincintiy). Give him a treat. Bring the clippers closer and have the dog LAY or give you his PAW. Give a treat. Leave the clippers running nearby and go through his hair, looking for all the mats .. fool with him, clean his ears. Have a goal, I will get his ears clean and wipe off all eye buggers and have the clippers running the whole time. Then do it. With luck nothing will go awry and you will have confidence he is not going to bite you or anything.
If he has bit you, do correct him if he even looks like he's going to do it again. If he is just grabbing at your arm, stick one of his toys in his mouth. Feel free to berate him in a scolding tone if he doesn't allow you to complete your task. Keep him on leash and lecture him, but NEVER just let him run off. He doesn't get out of this, no matter what. Since you have already establish he can get treats, just establish it can go the other way too.

But at the same time you try to anticipate bad behavior and re-direct it -- like shoving toys in his mouth and making him do things for treats. YOU can always stop and make him do something else ... like any tricks ...and you will still be in control.
I don't know you or the dog, but it sounds like you two are still butting heads. I wouldn't sedate him and I wouldn't muzzle him unless he deserved it .. it just adds to the discomfort. I would keep him on leash and get someone to help hold him. I personally would just trim him up, and if he tried to bite me I would give him a severe scolding and make him stay there for at least 5-10 minutes more before trying to finish up. And he wouldn't get any treats for a while either.
No dog LOVES ALL grooming. Pulling your short hairs on the back of your neck hurts, and it hurts the dogs. If you have daughters and have tried to put their hair up you know just how FUN grooming can be. It always goes better when they and you are relaxed and just fooling around --- not in a hurry or rush. Not tired or irritable.


Working with a scissors is admirable, but it is actually faster and safer to use a clippers. I would work on getting Buckley used to clippers, vacuums, lawn mowers ... just make sure he gets used to it all by having it going in a very friendly game of fetch, chase, or doing tricks. If you are persistent you will prevail. Stick with it. Maybe run a hair dryer while using the clippers?

If he never calms down around the clippers then there are several things you can give hime to calm him down ... but you have to wait 30 or more minutes before you can start. And the dog may "wake up" groggy and depressed. Not a good combination when you don't trust him to start with. This is not the way to build a trusting relationship and has side effects in the long run.
When we were horse shoeing we had to drug some of the horses and it made it a lot harder to deal with the horses overall, and it always took longer. Usually a firm but fair hand is much better and less scary.

I know i have read even better advice here. Maybe you could search for other threads, but make sure to check POSTS and not topics. we go off topic here all ot the time, as you know.
Good luck! Whatever you decide is what is best for you and your dog. i have an extensive background with all types of animals, but my experiences are limited to me, and my OES experience is limited to my 5 year old Abbi. I have read a lot of better advice from others here, so .... maybe a few will give better pointers.
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