Does anybody know?
 And I wondered if any body knows if there is a similar page for the Bearded Collie?
I don’t think that I will met such a great bunch of people there 
But just reading these pages is helpful  |
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Tove, can ot answer you question about the beared collie forum, but its people like you that help make this forum so great.  |
| We owe this whole site and forum to the efforts of Ron, due to his love of the breed! If someone like Ron has a bearded collie and the love of the breed like Ron does of OES's, then they would have a site and forum like this, too! But there aren't too many Rons around!!
BTW, Ron, I was always curious - what gave you the idea to start this site? Chris |
| I belong to a bearded collie chat group in Yahoogroups.com They have over a 1,000 members! I'll get the exact name and come right back..... |
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeardieList/
While it is a big group, it is not as well run as this! OES.org is in a special class!! |
| Hi Tove Just Google a little and you find a lot, like: This Ring A German one A Norwegian Randi |
SheepieBoss wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeardieList/
While it is a big group, it is not as well run as this! OES.org is in a special class!! Thanks!
I have sign in on this side, but an other group, this one was bether but it is´t like this forum. RON you hav done a great job! I love it (you)
I did´nt find out of it, and it was´nt sosurveyable and well arranged as this one.  
So if you can handle to here about some lhasa and bearded now and then, I want to stay only here!!!!!!!!!! |
| Tove, I tell stories about my horse (I don't have a sheepie yet) so Lhasa and Beardie stories are just fine. And Beardies are almost sheepies. |
Drezzie's Mom wrote: BTW, Ron, I was always curious - what gave you the idea to start this site? Well....
I wanted a nice site about OES as a hobby/fun thing to do. Then I really wanted to be able to get information out on the web about OES, as the OES-L info is locked away behind a password protected barrier and can't been seen by anyone except the 700 members there, and can't be indexed by the search engines. So I started the forum. I tried working with OES-L on a couple of occasions in a couple of different ways to get their archive on the web, but nobody there was interested. One person told me that she had been in IT for 26 years and taught classes on it, and based on that plus surveys done on people's surfing habits, people prefer to use an email list over a forum, and that dogs in trouble could be missed on the forum, and that having both the forum and the List would dilute both. OK. Then the list was put into moderated status because of a couple of flame wars. I offered to help out with moderation of the list to get it up and running again (even while running oes.org) and I received no reply. The the list was shut down because a moderator got unhappy and decided she didn't want to take abuse from the members anymore, relating to moderation so she shut off the list completely. I offered again, and this time actually received a polite no-thanks. Following my strong urging (but perhaps not because of it) the new moderator re-opened the list from being moderated to being open. Things have gone well there since, so I'm told. A year or so ago, the company that gives OES-L it's server space and bandwidth decided that they were going to pull the plug. I again offered to help and was simply ignored; not even responded to. OK. I decided around then that oes.org needed to be financially self-sufficient so that should the forum become wildly popular and/or server expenses increase dramatically, and/or I was no longer able to either operate or afford to operate the site, that someone would be able to take it on without a financial burden. That's when I started to accept advertising on the forum, and on the "other half" -- including the light-weight (low bandwidth) search-engine friendly extracts from the forum. I am happy to say that the website does indeed pay for its own operation now, and in the way things are going, even as the membership and the search engine popularity of the forum increase, the revenue should also increase to keep pace. Cross your fingers! The way things are going, in a couple of years hosting costs alone could be around $3,000 a year, perhaps more. Did I go on too long? |
At least it didnt happen as a result of the "incident"....  |
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