Coyotes
Tasker get positively ferocious and Ty turns into the Tasmanian devil (he really doesn't realise that he's only 4 lbs), the barking and growling is a site to be hold. The coyote yipping and howling is the bone chilling. I feel ike the pioneers must have felt when they were surrounded by the indians!!!! This morning I wouldn't let Tasker out til it was daylight!!!! Anybody have any suggestions for keeping coyotes AWAY  |
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| Yikes! Ginny, can you contact the DNR or whatever you have in New York? They may have some advice or maybe a way to move them. We hear them at night also but I think(hope) they are pretty far away.
Holly |
Anonymous wrote: Yikes! Ginny, can you contact the DNR or whatever you have in New York? They may have some advice or maybe a way to move them. We hear them at night also but I think(hope) they are pretty far away.
Holly That may be how they got there in the first place. The DNR had the brilliant idea of relocating hundreds of groundhogs from up north to rural southeastern Michigan. My mom's property is literally destroyed and it's a daily battle to keep them away. They tunnel everywhere and burrowed under the house and destroyed the foundation-- $20,000 of damage to the sun-porch alone. It's worth a try to call but please put in a good word for them not to drop them off in Michigan... |
ginny, definitely DON'T let Ty out unsupervised unless you know the coyotes are gone. My best friend's dog (a maltese, I think, or something similar) got out one morning while we were in high school and a coyote came right into the yard and took it away. My friend's mom ran after it screaming in her bathrobe and she got the dog back unharmed...But the dog was literally right outside their back door when it happened. Now, canyou imagine the most proper and etiquette-conscious woman screaming down the street in her bathrobe. priceless.  |
I doubt the DNR will be of much help, I am in a pretty remote area surrounded by state land in an area where people prize their hunting land and natural resources for the sole purpose of shooting animals. The solution in this area for most would be to buy a gun  (which most do) but I am anti gun and won't have one in my house. We have had a pretty mild winter which I think is responsible for an upsurge in survival of the coyote population and I expect an increase in population as spring comes and they start to reproduce............. |
barney1 wrote: ginny, definitely DON'T let Ty out unsupervised unless you know the coyotes are gone. My best friend's dog (a maltese, I think, or something similar) got out one morning while we were in high school and a coyote came right into the yard and took it away. My friend's mom ran after it screaming in her bathrobe and she got the dog back unharmed...But the dog was literally right outside their back door when it happened. Now, canyou imagine the most proper and etiquette-conscious woman screaming down the street in her bathrobe. priceless.
Ty NEVER goes out unless he's on a leash, at 4 lbs I think a rabitt could carry him off!!! We have hawks bigger than him and I'm always afraid that even if I'm with him that one will swoop down and carry him off!!!!!! |
Tasker's Mom wrote: I am anti gun and won't have one in my house. Just use it outside and then return it to Wal-Mart. |
| I'm pro-gun for me, anti-gun for criminals. I'll come up and shoot them for you. |
| My Mom had a problem with Canadian geese, the DNR said they could either shoot or poison them |
Maxmm wrote: I'm pro-gun for me, anti-gun for criminals. I'll come up and shoot them for you.
Come on up!!! I'll go away for the weekend and you can shoot em!!! Maybe VP Cheney would like to come take a crack at them.......... |
| Sorry, Cheney can only hit attorneys.
Can't offer help for the coyotes as we are having them move in close too. My Pyrs are getting too old to stand up to them so I bring the dogs in early. Yes, they are barking in the house--sigh. All you can do is talk to neighbors, have them clean up their property, remove food, secure small animals, etc and hope the coyotes move on. Friends are having trouble with coy-dogs; hybrids, who are "friendly" like dogs running up to you and then yipping like a coyote. That's really spooky. Fortunately (?) here they are just coyotes, but still brazen. I expect "George" to start waving when I drive down the lane. |
Quote: Sorry, Cheney can only hit attorneys.
HAHAHA. Kill em. When my parents first moved into their house, it was all farmer field, the coyotes were coming right up to the manmade lake at night to drink. They eventualy stoled the neighbours poodle and killed it. My Dad called fish and wildlife and they said they couldn't do anything until they hurt a human. While there is 90 year old asian grandma's that walk around that lake evey night. My Dad ran one over and dropped it on FW doorstep. I say poison them or get a gun like Ron said and then return it to Walmart. They will take anything back. Protect your animals. Coyotes here seem to be getting braver and braver. |
| I know this probably doesn't need to be said, but be careful with poison. It doesn't always hit its intended target.
I don't even want to share my mom's "final solution" to the groundhog problem but at one point she had this crazy guy she knew come out to shoot them. He was such a tool, he showed up in full camo and face paint. |
Quote: He was such a tool, he showed up in full camo and face paint.
Thanks, now there is tea all over my screen again. |
| Lol. The guy was a tool! He had a crush on me (this was years ago) so he'd come over out of the blue constantly. We called him "The Mole" not because he was like a secret insider but because he literally looked like a big mole (wearing full camo and face paint). I wonder whatever happened to that guy... |
ButtersStotch wrote: Lol. The guy was a tool! He had a crush on me (this was years ago) so he'd come over out of the blue constantly. We called him "The Mole" not because he was like a secret insider but because he literally looked like a big mole (wearing full camo and face paint). I wonder whatever happened to that guy...
Send him on oer to my house, he can have the coyotes and the ground hogs!!!! |
| Do you really????? |
| OMG Jill....How funny!
Ginny, I am sorry I don't have any advice for you. We had a coyote problem in Mission Viejo but they never came onto our property. I did have a run in at the fence once. There When I let Harley and Peanut out the coyotes heard them and they came up the hill. Our fence was at the top of a steep hill. I was screaming for Harley to get inside. He finally turned still barking and came in. Peanut tough guy....stood there for at least another minute while I am screaming my head off. They could have easily scaled the fence but they didn't. They mostly stayed down by the railroad tracks. Luckily here with the blockwalls we don't have a problem. |
casearoo wrote: Do you really?????
Lol. If you mean do I really wonder, no, I'm sure he wound up exactly how I would expect him to end up.  |
| Playing GI Joe with his buddies? |
| starring in a major motion picture about golf? |
barney1 wrote: starring in a major motion picture about golf?
lmao...for some reason I am picturing Randy Quaid. |
Pepsi's Mommy wrote: lmao...for some reason I am picturing Randy Quaid.
Nope, not mole-like enough. Picture a mole head on a Fred Mertz-like body. That was him. If I had to guess, I'd bet he moved to northern Michigan, thumb area, and lives on a bunch of land in a trailer a la Gary Busey in that Chris Farley movie Black Sheep. In fact, exactly like the Gary Busey character only shorter and rounder and substitute the war memorabilia with animal heads. |
| More like Bill Murray! hee hee hee
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... otohosting http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_product ... ie_id=6889 |
| Lol. That was the outfit! |
| well, it's clearly the outfit to exterminate varmints. |
| So is someone offering to come take care of my coyotes??????? |
| Yes, Ginny. You can contact Bill Murray... |
| The Mole might still be available. My mom just called me and I asked her about him and she said she saw him at the grocery store about 6 months ago and that she almost called him Mole without thinking! |
| Gotta love it when you make your parents slip up like that! |
| I know! My mom is such a nice person too, so for her to slip is even better!
Oh, and in case that statement made all of you question, my personality takes after my dad...  |
| Gee thanks guys!! |
| Coyotes in my area caught a killed a goat across the street. Be careful of even your larger dogs! |
Tasker's Mom wrote: Maybe VP Cheney would like to come take a crack at them..........
Seriously though, can't Tasker be like Sam & Ralph the Sheepdogs like in the Roadrunner cartoons? |
| Sigh.....Ginny If I offered to help ...all I'd do is bring em home with me. I'm going to get flack but I like coyote's. We have them all over our area and I live in suberbia. The city even suspects there is a den somewhere in the dog park out of all places. When I was stewart of the dog park I'd always warn people with small dogs not to walk the trails at dusk.
Myself and the parks people once got together so they could inform me about coyote's. One parks person whom is knowlegable about them said. If you are walking down a trail and you see one in front of you...chances are there is another one stalking you from behind as that is their method of hunting. The dog will usually then hear the one behind and turn around, thereby exposing his throat to the one infront. He also stated it's quite common for a female in heat in the group to entice a male dog into the woods away from other dogs or human and then the entire pack goes after it. Even with that said - it's nature and I feel they have a right to live as people have encroached on their land with so many new sub divisions that the space where they can live becomes smaller. They are so disliked as they do co-habitate so close to humans but they've had to adapt. While I do sympathize with anyone with a coyote problem right outside their door. When I take my three boys deep in the woods (it is an area known for many coyote dens) I make sure we all stick close together. I would never walk those woods with just Old Blue and I, as he may become a target. Most animals won't go after another animal if there exist a chance they may have possible harm to themselves . Which is why wolves, coyotes , lions..ect go after the weekest, oldest or smallest. Ginny, glad to hear that little Ty doesn't go out unsupervised as they would target him rather than Tasker whom may look as he'd be a challenge. The parks fellow recommended that if one does come across a coyote to make yourself appear as large as possible, yell and make a lot of noise, and carry a stick. (They post signs now as to what to do in most of our parks.) Ginny please be careful with your boys and wish I could offer a solution I personally couldn't harm them as I have respect for all nature..yes even coyotes. I also catch bugs and place them outside! Marianne |
| We live along a ridge and we had coyotes behind our house about two summers ago. They never bothered us but you could hear them howling it is kind of an eerie sound but i liked to hear them.I don't think I could kill them they look to much like dogs.They eventually moved on so maybe yours will to. A neighbor who owns land behind our house actually saw one with a groundhog in its mouth but I never saw any. I did see a bear though. There must be some way to scare them off without killing them.Hope they go away for you they are probably just hungry. |
| Marianne, I have nothing against Coyotes and actually from a distance rather enjoy the sound of them as evening falls. My property is spitting distance from about a thousand acres of State Land and I would LOVE for them to live happily THERE. Which is why I'm really not serious about having anyone come shoot them. I would just like them to stay off my porch and the immediate vicinity of MY HOUSE . And OH YEAH, if they could not sit on my property line and howel at 2:00 in the morning that would be nice too |
| A lot of farmers around here pay hunters to go cut down the population of coyotes and foxes. They can be devastating to a farm if it gets out of control. |
| Never, never walk you dogs off leash in a known coyote area!! Too many stories of dogs being run off and killed by coyotes. Probably why I'm not walking my dogs right now. You can make all the noise you want to scare them off, but they often circle back if they want your dog. In mean time your dog is going nuts trying to defend you putting you at more risk to drop the leash.
Don't think tall fences and multi-homes protects your small dog. Friend's son was looking out his back window just as a coyote cleared his 8 foot wall, ran across the yard and scaled an equally tall wall all the while carrying some small animal (dog/cat/rabbit) in its mouth. This house is at least a mile from open land. |
| Yep, I have em too. Full moons are worse. They have a path they 'run' and come going south at 930 at night and then back north around 1230 am.
they have killed my neighbors cat and another small dog right out of its backyard last summer. we have a wetland behind the house and farm land on the other side (with prarie dogs) . I personally wouldn't mind erradicating all of them. but my neighbors 'love' the sound of them. Gives me the creapies!!! hair stands up on my neck....... they have even been so bold as to jump into my backyard over the fence. I went to the wonderful HOA meeting (worthless waste of my time) and told them there was a problem not only with them just being here but that kids were playing down by te dens. I worry somone will be bit. I was told it was a parenting issue and the coyotes were here first. Jst wait til the first kid gets bit........................ No one goes outside at my house after dark with out me with them. period. I have installed floodlights (automatic motion sensor ones) to come on at the slihtest movement. And i went to harbor freight tools and bought a 3,000,000 candle hand held flashlight and whenever i hear them i spot them and the run. (i am a light sleeper and they wake me up every night. I think this might be doing some good, but we'll see. oh. the dogs sleep thru them being at my back fence howling! one other thing, if you have a female dog in heat keep a CLOSE eye on her as they will lure her out. AND if a female Coyote is in season, they wll lure your male dogs out and then kill them. ali I have a great Coyote swing coat/jacket i wear this time of year and love!! hmmmmmmmm maybe i could add to it and make it a full length one??? nahhhhhhhhh these guys are scruffy. Too bad. |
| Well, it was a full moon this week!!!
We have put up bigger flood lights with motion detectors ALL AROUND!!!!!! The hand held flood light is a good idea. I want to find some kind of blast horn so that when they are close to the house I can go out and blast them. Tasker won't be out alone, or off a leash after dark and Ty doesn't go out at all in the winter (he has a liter box). I hope it's a pcak that is just moving on through on their way to a better place! |
| Ginny,
Go get one of the air horns. They'd be running for the hills. I have no idea where though.... |
| We got one of those giant super megawatt flashlight/spotlights from Costco recently because I was hearing rustling in the woods behind our house. Very reasonable price, too... |
Tasker's Mom wrote: I want to find some kind of blast horn so that when they are close to the house I can go out and blast them.
OH I LOVE IT!!! My NEIGHBORS wont but I would !!!!
Ali |
| Ali,
Just one more thing to worry about: friend in Taos had a prairie dog pop up in one of her dog yards........Great Pyrenees. Prairie dog was immediate lunch, but now the two dogs are very sick with tularemia. So, if it's not the plague, it's something else
susan |
| Susan, I know. LOL last spring/summer after i moved into this house i was looking out the big window. I didn'thave my glasses on, and i saw 'something' moving in the yard down in the corner...... i thought "oh BUNNY".........went and found my glasses (it's hell getting older) and ACKKK SPFTS ACKKKK It was a wily prarie dog. If I had known where my pistol was packed I would have nailed the sucker........
don't think Zsa Zsa will care too much for that................. Oh was I speaking of varmits?  |
My In-Laws lost a XXL Lab to a pack of Coyotes.  IMO there is never enough caution when you live in area's where coyotes live........ |
rebecca wrote: My In-Laws lost a XXL Lab to a pack of Coyotes.
IMO there is never enough caution when you live in area's where coyotes live........Oh dear |
| how sad, I'm sorry |
| I kind of like having them around. Like the Call of the Wild..being in tune with nature adn that sort of stuff.....I watch out for my dogs, but certainly wouldn't want a coyote to get hurt anymore than one of my pooches. |
| I've been very intrigued by this thread. We don't have the problem here that you do, so it's somewhat fasincating to hear your experiences. I saw the first (& only) coyote ever in this area about a year ago. He was stalking a groundhog across the street from where I worked. I know they were introduced here a few years ago, but he's the only one I've ever seen. |
Ginny- I talked to a DNR guy today, he said there has to be a food source nearby and you need to remove it. No food, no coyotes. Yeah, right, like it's just that easy  |
bestdogsx4 wrote: Ginny- I talked to a DNR guy today, he said there has to be a food source nearby and you need to remove it. No food, no coyotes. Yeah, right, like it's just that easy
hahahahahaha yeah right, I live in the wilds of upstate NY. I have exactly 2 neighbors in 2miles. The food source would be the hundreds of deer and other crittersthat live in the acres and acres of State Land (or any of the wild life for that matter). We have fox, black bear, wild cat and every form of small game you can think of in myback yard. Pretty hard to remove that!!! If he means do we have garbage and such around, not to worry when you live in black bear country you learn to keep your garbage under lock and key!! I wish it were that easy. |
Ali wrote: If I had known where my pistol was packed I would have nailed the sucker........
don't think Zsa Zsa will care too much for that................. Oh was I speaking of varmits? Ali, you are too funny!  |
| We have a bad coyote and bobcat problem where I am at right now. The coyote population will grow pretty quickly so I have been shooting them on sight. They are very clever animals though. It is difficult to get a shot on them since they tend to stay in good cover and they are fantastic stalkers. I killed a coyote yesterday walking through the woods. As a previous poster said they do ambush with 1 coyote in front and 1 stalking in from behind you, that was the scenario I came across yesterday. There really is no way to rid them from your property without "managing" the population. They are alot like feral hogs. To rid your property of feral hogs you have to eliminate around 80% of the population or else they will rebound very quickly. |
| Not to make a joke, but I know paris Hilton's little dog was recently taken by a coyote and never to be found again I would watch my dogs carefully if coyotes are around like you say in packs of five and six. Ou sheepies might be large, but I don' know if they would be good agaisnt a pack pf coyotes!
They sell something called "prediator pee" and you can buy it in wolf pee and larger animals. Fo coyotes I think you would need at least wolf pee or something bigger...The idea is they smell the urine of another larger animal and leave the territory... Gee, I am in downstate NY...I didn't realize we had this problem here in NY...Where are you? way up north? I think they have coyotes as south as Westchester. |
| we have a problem with them and bob cats also. Our Anatolin Shep and Great Prynees have killed both almost on a weekly bases. We also have cougars here and their scream will scare the hell out of you. It will wake you from a dead sleep. The dogs are smart enough to just bark at them and that seems to keep the cougars at bay. |
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I think I like living in Australia where we have no large predators. Worst we get are dingos and they're usuallt pretty shy. |
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And I thought I had a problem with racoons |
| I know this is an old thread, but I'll throw my 2 cents in.
Get a BB or pellet gun. They're non-lethal. I know some people don't like guns, but these can barely be classified as guns. If the coyotes get close enough, or you can get close enough to them, hit them in the butt with a BB or pellet. It won't hurt them, but it may make them think twice about coming near your property. |
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