What does puppy coat blow out look like?
Thanks, Aurelie |
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| It usually happens around 9 months of age, some earlier some later. I would not think a pup would be changing coat at 3.5 months.
Also, when a pup is changing coat, there are no bald patches on a healthy dog. It just means the grey, coarser guard hairs are coming in to replace the soft black puppy coat. It causes a lot of matting if you are not vigilant with grooming, and often even if you are! LOL It's good that the skin is healthy, however I would still have the vet look into it next time you go. I've never heard of thyroid problems in a pup that young, but that is something else that can cause hair loss or thinning coat. What are you feeding the pup? My girl Sky lost a lot of leg coat when her coat was changing, but that was only because I removed and damaged too much of it while grooming her and removing mats....lol..... |
| Barney was completely gray when we got him at 5 months, so he must have started blowing his coat at a young age... |
| Yes, there certainly are exceptions to every rule... with oes, their rate of growth varies so greatly it's amazing. Dancer started changing around 7 months, but Sky is 19 months old and still has some puppy coat. Dancer's changed quickly once it started, and matted soooo badly. |
| But I would be worried about having bald spots... |
| Thanks for your responses. She must be undergoing her puppy coat transition. I should not have said bald spots as it appeared bald but actually the incoming fuzz is very light grey and a big contrast to the black. It looks like she is starting at her back end and working her way towards her head. Light grey is starting to appear under her black ears. She looked so mangey this week but the black clumps are mostly gone, the grey is filling in, and she's looking much better now.
A suggestion for consideration by the website contributors is to post photos of a puppy transitioning her coat as that might be helpful for other new "first time" OES parents. Again, thanks. I so appreciate the people who contribute to this site. |
It seems like maybe Max is starting to blow his puppy coat, he is 1 year old now and I'm noticing that he is shedding his coat more now, and is matting very quickly. I've been brushing him every day lately and I'm getting a lot of hair in his brush. There are no bald spots and his coat is very thick. His underlayer is very grey, so does anyone know how long it takes to get all grey? I can't wait to see his new look!!  |
| einy must be hanging on to his he is 14 months and still very dark but he seems to be going grey from the toes up and from the nose back
oh well good things come to those who wait zoe and einy |
Aurelie wrote: A suggestion for consideration by the website contributors is to post photos of a puppy transitioning her coat as that might be helpful for other new "first time" OES parents.
Again, thanks. I so appreciate the people who contribute to this site. Here is a few pics of one of my girls, Sky. Puppy, about 10 weeks old I think. 
Then, the first hint of change around 9 or 10 months old. 
Here at about 15 months old (still not done changing, quite a bit of puppy coat left) 
Here at 18 months, still not quite done, though there is less black now basically along her spine.  |
| Great pictures! And of course darn cute and beautiful dogs |
| Adorable! Thanks for posting your pics.
Aurelie |
| Gorgeous photos
Thanks for posting them |
| What beautiful photos!!! Makes me realise I really must get my camera out!
My Monty is just 10 months, and he is grey all over  although he does seem to have 'brown' tinges at the end, is that normal? 
He seems healthy,.... although with help from some wonderful people on this forum, we did manage to pin down his constant scratching when a baby was down to a chicken allergy... He hardly ever itches now (Unless he has been playing hide and seek with himself in the bushes and comes in covered with all sorts of burr and thorns  lol) |
| The brown is likely just the old puppy coat-- it turns a reddish brown over time, from exposure, I imagine. Clyde's never really had a haircut so he still has a lot of puppy coat on the ends and it's starting to get a reddish tinge there. I was going to trim it off but I'm considering cutting him down in the spring so I'm gonna wait. |
| Butterscotch,
thats exactly how it is, sort of a redish brown...... so yes, must be the same. (Glad its not his allergy which is what a freind said) How old is Clyde? (LOVVEE the name!) M |
Beaureguard has that in spots, too. I think from where he was shaved last summer and then spent time outside. I didn't put sunscreen on him (bad mommy!!  ) and I think the sun just turned it reddish/brown. It's now that color on the ends in some places and grey underneath.
I thought about trimming his, too, Jill. But I'd have to use scissors and I'm not too good with them.  |
| Lol. The thinning shears are my best friend, Tammy. They really limit the amount of damage that you can do! I've gotten pretty good at the butt trimming (thanks to Holly's lesson) but I'm worried about trimming his body and making him look unbalanced.
I've also been getting a lot of business about his ponytail lately and we don't like it when he's mistaken for a girl so I was thinking about a trim there too. Not all the way, just enough to bring the size of the ponytail down but I have visions of Clydenstein returning... |
| Now thast really interesting, because hubby and I havee been having a huge discussing whether its too "girly" to put a bow in Montys hair.
But when hes hidding in the bushes (from himself) he gets all green stuff caught around his eye fur and we are worried he will scratch his eye with it. I like the idea of a bow, but hubby wasnt so keen (I suppose its a macho thing, lol) errr....suncream????? oh dear! I am a really bad Mum! what sort of suncream? where? when???? |
LOL...that's a vision I share! 
I trimmed Beau's face a few times - poor fellow!  That's why I'm afraid to try using scissors on his body. And why I'm letting his hair grow out on his face.
But, I may have to investigate the thinning shears. I'm eagerly anticipating Mandy's grooming demonstration at the Philly picnic. I'm a visual learner so seeing it will definitely help! |
| If you notice in my avatar, it's up in an elastic but the ponytail is HUGE. The funny thing is, we'd never mistake Clyde for a girl and never see him like that so it's weird when people ask! |
| I know - he looks like a boy!! |
Yea, Clyde is defo a Male!, lol 
I had to trim Monty under his chin with scissors a few weeks ago, he had got such a matt, we had no choice,.... and so i sort of did round his nose too .... , but he looks ok (Phew)and he seems to be drinking more, i think it was driving him a little nuts as well.
Hes got a couple of bad matts at the end of his ears , but we have left them, hoping they will eventually drop off, as we cant tell where the ear ends and the matt starts he had a really bad ear infection when he was very small, and went crazy if you went near his ears..the vet was very worried he was going to go deaf, at least thats all stopped and his ears r clean (cross fingers) We have been considering getting him trimmed all over,..... but not sure how much it ought to cost, and how do we find a good groomer?. A while back, we called a mobile one out , a collegue reccomended, just to bath and brush him, but she was rubbish! she charged £35 ($65) and was here less than half hr! ...when Monty started barking at the hair dryer, she switched it off and said she couldnt finish him because he was barking!. (yea, and theres another question, lol, how do u stop him barking at haridryers, hovers, etc?) |
| I need to add.... all we got for that $65 was... she lifted him into her mobile unit, put him in the bath,...... gave him a very quick bath..wet him all over really, lol..., (nowhere near as thorugh as we give him) ... gave him a quick rub towel dry... lifted him onto a table,..and started to brush and dry him with the dryer...
He was barking, so she switched the dryer off, said, I cant do him any more hes barking too much,..that will be £35 !! ($65) we were so disgusted she was prepared to leave him like that, still wet , and clearly upset,... We just gave her the money and took Monty back in home, we were just glad to see her go,..so bad experience all round. |
| Where are you at, Mo? Maybe someone in your area can recommend a good groomer.
As far the matts on the ears, they're not gonna fall off-- those ear ones only seem to get worse. With Clyde, it was like one day he was fine the next day they were huge and they just kept getting worse and worse even though I was working on them. I can sympathize with not knowing where the ear starts and the matt begins. I did end up cutting Clyde with some scisors and it bled like crazy. I felt terrible! Now we nip them in the bud. |
| OOhhhhhh , what should i do about the matts on the ears then? try to cut them off???
I am worried hes gonna catch them during one off his hide and seek himself games in the bushes... I am in Leicester in the UK, which is sort of in the middle (Midands), but I would be happy to travel to get a good groom !. but the rubbish groomer was reccomeneded by a collegue..(turns out she herself hadnt used her, a freind had!!) SO....Any tips about cutting those ear matts???, soak them in something first? (not easy!) |
| It's not going to look spectacular, but do you have clippers? You could just buzz them off and not have to worry about cutting his ear. Our groomer ended sort of doing that for Clyde. She cut off most of the hair on the inside and some of the hair under the ear flap on the head. It's helped a lot and he hasn't had a matt there since. His ears lie nicely on his head too. After a few weeks everything grew out a little and looked even better. That's the nice thing about these dogs if you aren't showing-- you can make a major grooming mistake or a drastic cut and, in a few weeks, you can't even tell anything happened! |
| Having made more than my share of trimming mistakes I can say with confidence......it WILL grow back But Jill is right, thinning shears are the best, if you screw up it's pretty hard to tell. |
| Not sure if i am confident enough to have a clipper session myself!!.
We are going to have a good look round for a decent groomer, even if it costs us a lot, hes worth it!
We might visit a few without Monty, see what they have to say, see if we can geta feel for the place. |
| Mo, may I make a suggestion here. If you are able to, make sure the groomer you choose has had experience with oes. Many of them don't know how to trim one and don't like grooming them. But as you have already experienced, will still take your money for a job not done well. |
| Mo, I do things a little backwards from most of the people on here. I have kept my two girls with their coat long for their entire lives. Same for our previous OES. So dealing with mats is an ongoing issue.
To cut through a mat, I start at the base of the mat (next to the skin) and work toward the ends. A small embroidary scissor is often good for getting under the mats closest to the skin (get the ones with a blunter end). I prefer my bandage scissors (availabel at uniform supply stores) with their uneven blades and blunt end on the longer blade. I may have to make several cuts for a huge mat (how does Riley do that overnight?), but I usually am able to to keep most of the length and quite a bit of the fullness. Start on the side of the mat and work toward the middle. Between cuts, I work on the mat with a narrow tooth comb. It can't be too bad, the girls love to be combed out. |
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