co ownership
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| Is this a dog who is no longer going to be bred? If that is the case it is basically your dog, and there isn't much to it.
If the owner still wants to breed the dog it can be more complicated, but still a worthwhile venture, as the dog would be part of your family, your pet, the breeder just may need to "borrow" it occasionally. |
| That and the fact that you will not be able to neuter him until the breeder OK's it. So if you take him in, be prepared for him to mark, and also go crazy when bitches in heat are around, and all the craziness that goes with that liake trying to run away etc. He may get testicular cancer, so you may want to be prepared for that, and maybe the breeder can be partly responible for the treatment, if there is any.
Also, the breeder may want to "borrow" him to ship him away for periods of time...Just make sure you know, understand and agree with what you are responsible for and what you are agreeing to. Being the owner of a breeding dog also puts an onus on you, to some extent, for the temperament of puppies produced. There is always the chance of a puppy being sired by your dog, sold to someone, than biting someone and you getting dragged into a law-suit being the co-breeder. Something at anyone breeding dogs needs to keep in mind. Just a slight chance, but it is there. |
| it is a bitch we are thinking about - we had called about puppies - by the way this is a yellow lab for my son who wants to show in rally & agility, I can't talk him into a sheepdog and our's is definately "mom's dog". At this point I think we are leaning towards the puppy which are due 1/20. |
| I'm not sure if the breeder "OKing" a neuter is a Canadian thing. I know here in the states, well at least NJ, they don't require any paper work to spay or neuter. |
| I don't think there is too many problems in Co-Owned dogs, most of the time a breeder wants to keep the rights for using a dog at stud or producing a litter from a bitch for all the right reasons and to stop willy nilly breeding by just anyone, and sometimes to keep their family lines going, but unable to keep as many dogs on their property to do it. My Brie is co-owned by the breeder in New Zealand, she is supporting and guiding me for later on when I want to have a litter with her. I got her due to being unable to get my Kelsey into whelp and she is heavily related to my other girls. I have had no problems with co-ownership at all in any activities I have wanted to do with brie, AND most importantly we talked about everything, my plans and what I wanted also before taking her on here in Australia.
So make sure everything is out on the table as they say and you should have no problems then.  |
Quote: I'm not sure if the breeder "OKing" a neuter is a Canadian thing. I know here in the states, well at least NJ, they don't require any paper work to spay or neuter.
What I meant is that if someone co-owns a retired show dog, I would assume it was so that the breeder could still use him for stud purposes. So the timing and authorisation would have to be OK with the breeder, before neutering. But in this case it is a bitch, so not the same thing, but ultimately, things can go wrong during whelping, so one would want to make sure who is responsable for what, if that happens. I have heard of a disagreement where a dog was having a difficult birth and the owner wanted her to have a c-section and the breeder did not. Can't recall the outcome, but it was ugly. |
| Most importantly get everything in writing, signed by both you and the breeder and if there is any dispute down the track you only then have to pull the paper out to resolve the issue. Make sure that if the breeder wants to use her for a litter that the contract covers the breeder for all expenses & responsibilies etc rather then you, also include how many times they and you want the bitch bred from, here is Oz we have breeding contracts to help with Co-ownership stipulating that, once the bitch has been used by the agreed no. of times (that is worked out by yourself and the breeder) then that is the end of it, then ususally you can have a bitch de-sexed. Most of the times here it is just for one Litter!
Just a few thoughts on Co-ownership hope this helps? |
| Our family dog when I was growing up was technically a co-owned bitch. The situation was a little bit odd though... The gal we co-owned Eve with had bought my moms kennel when she retired from breeding shelties, so the dog was from my mom's dogs anyways. But anyhow...
Eve lived with us, we were responsible for all the regular "ownership" responsibilities. The only time she was away from home was when they took her out to her one breeding. The co-owner was responsible for finding homes for the pups, but they all came to our home to meet us and the puppies, and Eve. It was a great experience, Eve was an awesome, awesome dog, and she adored my mom. I'd make sure that the contract you sign is very clear about who is responsible for what, esp. if there is an emergency situation, who has the right to make medical decisions, if you want to get her spayedafter so many breedings, can you, if you are unable to care for the dog will the co-owner take it etc. Other then that, best of luck!!!! Karen  |
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