how much is that haircut in the window?

hw much do you guys usually pay for a groom? i have paid 50 and i have paid 80. frankly, both places did a less than stellar job.
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I just had Truman groomed yesterday. I must admit he had to be cut pretty short as he had some mats we were unable to comb out. With the clip, bath, etc. it was $65. This included triming his nails, removing the hair from his ears and from his foot pads, expressing his anal glands (ugh!), etc. They also gave him 1/4 lb. of free cookies from their bakery. I think the price was pretty average for the service we got. Like you, I wasn't exactly overwhelmed by the trim job but that was partially because it was so short. Our cat didn't recognize him and freaked out!
at petsmart i pay around 65 but his beard is never clean and they do a bad job with the big mats.
the professional groomer he went to once charged me almost 90 dollars because he was so matted (thats because he was in bootcamp there for 2 weeks, when i visited him he was a mess... and the lady acted like it was my fault)
at the dog grooming school i pay 30 and they bathe brush cut and brush the teeth. but hes not allowed back haha

so im looking into a new place that will treat both me and walter with respect
I think you guys have it easy.....I paid £60 (that's roughly $120)!!!
I guess things here are a lot cheaper than up there for you guys in the states and the UK I pay 20 Soles roughly $7 dollars and they do a wonderfull job on Pisco, bath, brush,nails clipped,ears cleaned, paw hair cut and some treats....and if I`m not there on time they will keep him or bring him home for me.They gave him a raw hide bone for X-mas and a bag of doggie treats for Valentines...and I can tell they just love him a lot there.
Vero
I pay $45 for Maggie + 10 tip. I live in Los Angeles, I'm surprised it's so much cheaper than other places. This is for a bath, clipping around butt thingy, nails and everything. Interesting. Her coat is about 2" all over right now, maybe more when she fully grows out.
No one down here wanted to groom my Abbi. They charge $75 for bath, brush, ears and nails. $90 if I want her cut too. One of the independents told me it would cost $100. Petsmart quoted me $85. We have a groomer shortage down here I believe.
When I was in Bahia Blanca they would always charge me $35 - $45. I guess I was getting the ex-pat rate (je-je).
I bought a hundred dollar Oster trimmer (A5) and three blades ($45) years ago for my standard poodle.
After I had left Abbi at a groomer for a trim, picked her up and she had a cut tendon that cost me $120 to have sewn together plus antibiotics, I have groomed her myself. That was about 3 years ago. Wouldn't even let the vets comb her out afte hearing that the only dog that ever bit the groomer was an OES. It costs me about $12 per year to have the blades refurbished.
My daughters combed and brushed Abbi for me today. I was thinking, why would I ever take her to a groomer? We all have such fun messing with her hair. She's a real fuzz ball at the moment. Guess I should go check her ears.
My OES, Daffy, costs $90 and upward to groom. Once I found a discount groomer that charged $45, but it appeared that Daffy was mistreated in the process. So, I have not taken her back to the discount groomer. Now I do most of the grooming myself. However, the only challange face is shaving her b/c commercially available dog clippers seem to be ineffective. Does anyone know of a brand of dog clippers that works well and are affordable? Thanks! :lol:
I found a web page a while back supported by a lady that raises sheepies. She stated that she has found that "people" trimmers work better her than pet trimmers. When we first acquired Puddy they wanted to charge me $65.00 just to "shear" him (he was an awful mess). So off I go to Wal Mart and buy a fairly inexpensive pair of trimmers. We managed to get him shaved down in a couple of days (sooo much hair) and have not had any trouble out of the clippers. Does anyone else use "people", or as you would say, trimmers for the uprights?
£60 is expensive i pay £35 for a bath ,hair cut and a nail cut .i thought i was been robbed paying that.
wow!

Here in Mexico we got it cheap then! We paid $12 for a bath and haircut!!
Saulmr: People come to your door and give you sheepies and then it only costs $12 to get them groomed.
Guess it is time to move to Mexico .... :lol:

Aswering previous posts now: Yes I have used people shears on both my poodle and my Abbi. But my Oster A5's are faster for the big jobs and some very nice blades that will regulate length and closeness of the trim can be purchased. The blades need to be sharpenned every year, but last for years when cared for.
If the Andis or Oster blades are not cutting your dog better than the people clippers then you either need to get the blades sharpenned or if they are brand new, you need to take of the plastic coating by running them in kerosene, blade wash, or some other solvent. You will hear a chane in the hum of the clipper when the blade protectant is finally removed ... takes a minute or two usually. Sometimes even new blades need sharpenning ... usually there will be either a Barber supply place that will sharpen them, or sharpeners will attend fairs, rodeos, or visit pet and human salons on a monthly basis.
I still have one people's clipper around to clean up Abbi's face quickly, but it is my 2nd pair. The first pair wore out and the blades could not be repaired.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Maybe it's time for you and Abbi to take a break under El Paso sun and get a haircut at the same time.... You're welcome any time!
Saulmr...maybe we can make a sheepie bath/trim and clipping tour....LOL
Here it is also very cheap...and they do it very well...at the most it costs $10 the whole deal....and if you are a regular you get your frontline for free :D
in buenos aires, i pay 10 dollars. The groomer cames to pick Shanti up twice a month. am I lucky, or what? :lol:
So I drive 15 hours to my mother-in-laws in El Paso, go visit Saulmr's groomer, check out the open market, park my car and fly to Lima, Peru, visit Vero on the beach and say hi to her groomer, then I would fly to Chile because it is cheaper to go in that way (and I have a friend there I would love to visit and eat crab with), take a bus over the Andes to BA or maybe Bahia Blanca, just to say hi to some friends down there, grab a flight back up to BA have some facturas and mate with Danik (and go talk to her groomer), then grab a quick flight down to Puerto Madryn to see the whales and penguinos at Punto Tombo, then fly up to Brazil, because I want to see its coast this time, see if I can catch a flight to Cozemel or Belize and do some snorkeling, then fly back to El Paso, tired but deleriously happy to have met three groomers who could do Abbi for $10 - $12. Then drive back through San Antonio so I could do some spelunking at the Landbridge caves, then head back to the Gulf Coast to say hi to my family. Think my family would go for it?? :wink:
Frankly, I do not think even Abbi would go for it.
I could drive to El Paso, drive down through the interior of Mexico, cross Central America, stopping for some snorkeling there, then go through Venezuela cut across to Peru (staying well away from Columbia), Say Hi to Vero, keep going west and catch a charter boat to the Galapagos Islands, then continue to Chile, cross the Andes to go to BA, then fly to Bahia Blanca and the Patagonia, then back to BA for the car, then head back through Brazil's rainforest, stop at Lima Peru again, then go back through Central America and then go up Mexico's east coast, through Matamoras and back home again. Should only take about 3-4 months. Sounds like a retirement adventure!! And I could stop at all of the groomers along the way and save money. Wait until Victor hears about this.
I will let you all know as soon as I can pencil it in my schedule....meantime, poor Abi will have to grow some hair to groom I am afraid. She lost it all a week or two ago ... now she's miss cool dog.
8) in a sheek new slim style that is so in for this summer!
Aging,

You just TOTALLY EXHAUSTED ME ! :lol:

Keep in touch on your travels ! And don't forget you must make it to Saratoga in August for the Thoroughbred Horse Racing! :wink: But the grooming is way too expensive here and they usually only want to give summer cuts all year round ! :roll:
Saratoga is in New York? or are you referring too Cananda ....?. Went to Vancouver and Victoria once a few years ago. Never got over to the North or Northeast though. Would love to see the Glacier Park in Alaska. Been to Ushauia (have to look up the spelling) Argentina/Chile. Took a tour on the Strait of Magellan, but did not make it to the big glacier north of Teirra de Fuego..... maybe next time.
Horse Racing, haven't participated in years ! Used to be a groomer on the LA tracks when I was trying to get into vet school, a few decades back. Helped train a couple of cheap track winners ....
We have horse and dog racing here and in LA ... and it is warmer. But some day I may just go north. The girls would like to see some snow, and I would love to see the color changes of fall again ...used to live in WV a few decades back too, sigh!
My husband says if I make my grooming "road trip" with him it would be ok, but he wants a fifth? wheel, a nice shiny truck, and loads of touristy stops (uhg!). And he wants me to wait until I am older, like maybe in 6-7 years. He just wants to retire with full benefits, don cha know! I have always wanted to do a trip like that though. Would love to see some things we missed while we were down there.....
Saulmr, Vero, and Danik think you will be around in 6 years? I know Abbi would be an old lady by then ....
Uh-oh, to keep on topic, I had better ask if the groomers will still be in business too?
I`ll be here...Pisco as well ...probably with another pup around and hopefully with some uprights of my own!....
Groomers...sure :)
My family is actually interested. But they don't think Abbi will like meeting different groomers. She really did not like any of her groomers ever. Another reason we do it ourselves.

Vero ... that would be neat! Love to see some people pups too. They are just as adorable as OES and get into just as much trouble ... although none of mine has eaten a whole roast of lamb :lol: !

What a trip!
In my area there is only one groomer who will even think of doing an oes, lol and there are olny 3 oes in our area that I know of, city with a population of approx 100,000 people... that groomer charges 100.00 canadian, so about 130 american right now. I've never gone to her though, I always clipped my first oes myself, I was too nervous they'd hurt her, after hearing stories of a friends standard poodle coming home with a cut up in the skin where the ear joins the head that tooks months to heal and left a bad scar. I have oster clippers, they are amazing, and if the blades get dull I send them to my mother who lives a couple hours away but has been a hair stylist for 40 years and can get them refurbished much cheaper, only costs 6$. The clippers themselves are expensive to buy, but you get what you pay for, these are fairly quiet, and does the job quickly, they were about 160$ but that was 8 years ago, and they still work great. I have never clipped Dancer, but I still give my boys buzz cuts when they start looking like sheepies...lol
100CAD = about 76USD right now.

(100USD = about 130CAD)
oops :roll:
Well Agingright, hopefully Lennon and Sofi will be here by the time you start your trip. It'll be fun to watch them chill in the park and you can always chill at our home.

My wife told me that our $12 groomer may close 8O He was asked for the place he was at and now he's thinking about moving or closing down... Nooooo!!!!
When I come, I will bring my clippers and blades :wink: ! Will I need to bring the converter too? I forget if Mexico runs 110 or 220 now?
Chillin in Mexico with some chicken flautas, sandia, and a glass of lemonade! That would be grand right now! My mother-in-law sounds like she needs another visit ....
Wow! That is great. Here in North Carolina they charged me $69 just to get her shaved and that was after shopping around a while. First, the groomer at my vet wanted to charge me $89 to start. I said forget it.

Question: Since she was shaved pretty close to her skin due to mats, how long does it take for her hair to grow back out again??
Depends on their age. When they are growing their hair tends to grow more too, or at least Abbi's did.
Now, at 5 years old, if she has a complete shave, I mean less than a half of an inch, it will take 9 months to get her hair back to about 2 inches. If I shave her only once a year she's back at about 3-4 inches the following year.
Last year I gave her a lions cut intead of a shave, nine months later she had almost 5 inches up front and about 2-3 inch long hair on her back and legs. I did a bit of trimming during the year, so .... she may have had longer hair in the back if I hadn't kept it at no longer than 2 inches for the first 6 months.
Below is a set of before and after photos .. disregard the April Fool's memo, she did not lose her hair, I shaved it with one of my hands tied behind my back (not really, but one of my hands was in an ace bandage due to an injury ...which lead to a closer clip than I meant to give her ...)
The before (first couple of photos) pictures was with her front hair grown out after 9-10 months from a half of an inch.
The last 2 photos are after I had shaved her ... which she actually seemed to like. Took me a few days to get used to her new "look" , bu tAbbi has had more energy than ever.
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I had taken my boys to 2 different groomers. They wanted $70-80 for a bath and brush and $90+ for a clip down. With 2 and now 3 OES, that is a pretty hefty tab. When I started showing Oliver last year, I also started doing all the grooming. I invested in a tub, a stand dryer and clippers to clip my other dog. They have paid for themselves 10 fold. The clipper I got was an Oster A5 (I think) that runs cool. I have invested in 2 different length blades so I don't have to clip so short. The first couple of cuts were awful but I just clipped Winston yesterday, and he looks pretty good. There aren't any funny lines and all the hair (except for his head which I keep longer) is the same length. I can't believe the international pricing -- but really, the prices I have paid are outrageous. Particularly when I keep my dogs groomed and mat-free and especially if they were going to the groomers I would be sure they had no mats. You'd think that would give me a price break. Guess not. :o
Sandy, Winston, Oliver and baby Bentley
I agree. The groomers all said they would give a price break, but they never did. Abbi was always mat free, except maybe around the neck area, and those were just tangles more than mats.
Only one groomer gave me a break, and even she shaved Abbi when I wanted a puppy clip.
You are right about the clippers paying for themselves. With 3 OES self-grooming would be the ONLY way to go. Besides, Abbi and I developed a lot of inter-species communiction that way. A few things she was doing was because she was irritated in various areas. Like she was overgrooming and getting hair balls. It was due to her armpits getting irritated or stuff caught in between her webbing ... sometimes she would just lick the whole paw. I did not know she had things caught up in her hair between the toes. But when you do ALL of the grooming you catch on quick. Then you pay extra attention when you are brushing and combing. The whole grooming scene because less tedious because you know you are helping your dog to be comfortable, not torturing it with excessive or overly aggressive grooming.
My A5's are fairly cool running, but I still switch blades ever 10-15 minutes to let them cool off. That's one of the reasons I have collected a few more than 2 blades. The blade/clipper maintenance guy shop is 45 minutes away, so with an extra set I can leave off one set and still have a couple to trim with; then pick up the sharpenned re-furbished set when I get back up to Houston.
The shop owner keeps kidding me that one of these days he will just close up shop and take my blades .... but he's just joking. He would sharpen them while I waited, but he likes taking his time and I don't mind. He usually totally refurbishes them instead of just sharpenning them. I collected all 7 of my blades because I couldn't find anyone to sharpen blades except at fairs and rodeos. Also I like having the various lengths. They only need sharpenning, grooming just one dog, about once a year. Probably less if you keep the blades in an air-tight container.
I want to mention Blade Wash and Cool Lube, both by Oster. The blade wash can be used to rinse the clipper blade if it gets clogged with hair during a haircut but mostly for cleaning the blades after clipping. Each blade should also be lubricated with oil to ready for the next use. The cool lube is a spray that I use very frequently when the blade starts to stick or get warm. It helps to keep the blade cool and running smoothly. Don't know if you use these or not, but if not check them out. They make the job much easier and help with the overheating of blades. :)
Sandy, Winston, Oliver and baby Bentley
Max and I are really lucky! The groomer I take him to is about 4 blocks from my house and she only charges me $40 ! Max is now only 55 lbs, so that may increase, but she does it all - wash, dry, comb, clips his nails, cleans the hair out of his ears, paws, butt area, etc. She does a great job too and Max seems to like it there. They also have a dog store there too, so Max loves the treats he gets - Greenies :P .
Vero wrote:
Saulmr...maybe we can make a sheepie bath/trim and clipping tour....LOL
Here it is also very cheap...and they do it very well...at the most it costs $10 the whole deal....and if you are a regular you get your frontline for free :D
Free - I groom my pets myself :)

Our shop charged $40 for a sheepie sized dog...that's shave & the works. Would have been $12 for a bath, brushing out, etc...
I just took Benny to the groomer yesterday! I take him to the groomer at the kennel that I use. I paid $50 for bath, brush, ears, nails and a trim (paws, tail, eyes, and to even out the rest of him). He is sooo soft and fluffy! And he smells great!

I was suprised at the price (I was expecting to pay more). The groomer told me that he was in great shape. I guess brushing at least every other day pays off!!
We do almost everything ourselves but I do take Carl to the groomer about every 2 months for his trim and shaping. They charge about $80 but the lady who does him owns and used to show sheepdogs. What more could you want?


My parents pay anywheres from $125-$150 in NY or FL to get Paddington groomed!
Our groomer charges me $25- $30 for a bath, brush out, nails, ears, trim around eyes, feet and butt. A little more if they are matted. $40. for a shave-down. She is wonderful with our sheepies! And she must love them because she has cut her clientele down from over 200 to about 80 customers and kept us on the list. Maybe it's because Liz and Cooper each go once a month! :lol:
My goodness! I didn't realize the geographic diversity on this discussion board! Wow! Very cool!

In Washington DC, there are 2 types of groomings you can get: Electronic razor or hand/scissor cut.

We pay $120 to get our OESs done by hand on a quarterly basis. We could go to PetSpart for the more expedient method but I worry that they a: don't have experience with grooming bobtails and b: don't dry the coat out well enough. I picked up Teddy once and his was still dripping wet.

Farley hasn't been done professionally yet but will within the month. He needs his pads trimmed and butt better groomed than I can do.
We pay $120 as well. I think I need to find a new groomer in the Wilmington, Delaware area. My groomer always makes me feel like a bad dog mom when I go to pick Maddie up. After paying so much money, I shouldn't be reprimanded. On top of that, I take very good care of my girl as well.
I took Clyde in at about 4 months for his first real grooming. I was thinking that since he was small, he wouldn't cost as much as my Bearded Collie. I was right, but sadly only by about $10 so the two of them together, with tip, wound up costing me a little over $200.

On the plus side (or negative depending on which way you look at it) Clyde has been a monster to potty train. He's been getting much better in the last few weeks but he had been peeing on himself a lot so he's gotten used to regular baths at home. Now he loves the bath and getting groomed so I'm just going to keep doing him myself. I optimistically hope that he will even come to enjoy the dreaded between-the-toes trimming!
Maddie's Mom wrote:
We pay $120 as well. I think I need to find a new groomer in the Wilmington, Delaware area. My groomer always makes me feel like a bad dog mom when I go to pick Maddie up. After paying so much money, I shouldn't be reprimanded. On top of that, I take very good care of my girl as well.


If you are willing to drive, there is a place up the Blue Route near Philly, that had been highly recommended to me in the past. We don't permanantly live in the area anymore, but I can trust the recommendation:

Kimie's Animal Art: 839 W. Lancaster Ave., Bryn Mawr 610-527-4677
Thanks for the tip El Gato. I will check into this place. I don't mind driving at all because I have friends & family in the area so it would be perfect.
I'll continue to make you guys jealous. My $12.00 groomer closed, but we found a better guy that does bathing, nail clipping and hair trimming for $15... He even gave us a free bath this week because Lennon will be on his TV show this weekend!

(Doing my happy dance....)
OK. I am really jealous now. $12. Unreal! You are very lucky. I pay more for Maddie's hairdos than I do for my own and that includes cut, color and blow dry. Good grief. My Sheepie is more high maintenance than I am ;)
I have a 9 year old OES named Newman in Wilmington Delaware. We use AAA Animal Service on Lincoln Street and pay $35 for 6 week grooming sessions and about $50 for a clip. The owner is a huge fan of Newman. On another note, have you ever had to kennel your OES in Wilmington? I am looking for a cage free kennel or care in someone's home because we are putting our house on the market and Newman won't be able to take all of the in and out because he just started treatment for severe hip problems.
I would suggest contacting your local kennel club, or your breeder. My breeder is the only one I would trust to watch my dogs, and she will be caring for them in her home for the long weekend in July this year. If it were anyone else I would do nothing but worry, and I don't want them in a kennel either.
Wow- the parent's of sheepies can really 'talk' grooming- Holy Cow!

I would aslo strongly suggest looking on "Angie's List" ( if you are not familiar- Google it) I found a fabulous groomer in Chicago on the list.

Not only do they put up with Chelsea's , erhem!. "issues", but they also do the bath, the trim,the nails, the comb out, and the hind end (glands, etc) for between $60 and $75 per session (of course I tip big, so it's usually more like $80 to $90) And that's in the big city where things tend to cost A LOT.

They listen to me, and if I instruct them to bathe and leave a few matts for me to work on, they do, so she is not always perfect, but the answer isn't always "to shave" .

The best part though is that they make it an all day experience, we drop at 8am and pick up at 4pm (sometimes later)- they take it easy, she gets to play with the other big dogs (becuse she is social) and she gets lots of breaks 'cause she is tempermantal, but they don't mind, they just keep her all day and when she's done she hangs with the other dogs and they play. She comes home exhausted, but happy.

As an aside, I am moving to Mexico.

Up.
Really? Moving somewhere hot and sunny sounds wonderful to me right now...lol
I'm a newbie as you know.....and a groomer. This has been an educational thread.
We always try to deliver what the customer wants...hand scissor...no problem....bath/brush/comb.....short strip/long strip....whatever they want. I generally charge anywhere from $50 to $100. It will depend on the condition of the coat and how much hand scissoring is asked of me. We don't have price add on's. The nails, clean the ears that is all included.
These are Canadian prices so in the US that would be....not sure....quite a bit, I think.
I don't like the horror stories that I hear about....gives people like me a bad name.
I guess Mexico is out of the picture for me....$12! WOW! I'd like to move to Arizona (spelling?) wonder what they charge.
Hello. Thanks for the tip. I'll check out AAA. I haven't been lucky enough to meet another sheepie in the area ;)

I wish I could provide you with a recommendation on a kennel. I have visited several in the area but have not boarded Maddie. Instead, I've left her with a family member.

There is one place that I did find but unfortunately like I said have not had any direct experience w/ them. It's called, "Playtime Doggie Daycare." They do have boarding. From what I understand, the dogs are allowed to romp around freely during the day but when it's time for bed, the dogs are then crated (you bring your own). Here's the link to their site - http://www.playtimedoggiedaycare.com/

I hope this helps!
uppetybup wrote:
As an aside, I am moving to Mexico.


You're always welcome to como over and visit us. Lennon and Sofa don't have too many playmates. :( Maybe we should get together and go to my groomer's place to get a group discount :lol:
Thanks for the tip about Doggie Daycare in Newark -- I will be calling them at 7a.m. when they open to see if they have any spots available.
I hope AAA works out -- we love it. Do you take your sheepie to Rockford Park to play?
Good luck w/ Doggie Daycare. I hope it works out. It sounds like they may be more in line w/ what you are looking for. We have never been to Rockford Park but we'd certainly try it out. We normally visit Carousel Park's Bark Park b/c it's so close to our home. Do you go to Rockford often? I wonder what Maddie would do if she saw another sheepie like herself ;) I am going to call AAA today and set an appointment. Thanks so much for the recommendaation!
At the grooming shop I work at we start at $40.00 and up Canadian for grooming an OES. The price depends on what condition the coat is in. If a customer brushes out their dog on a regular basis and they just come in for a bath and scissoring...we give them a discount of the regular price. Some thing like a good dog owners discount :D
The grooming I work for is a National Cetified Master groomer and also grooms for show. To get mats out (unless they are really pelted) we just lather the dog up in the bath tub and use a special rubber bath brush to brush out the mats. Its wonderful how easiely they can slide out, of course that depends on how pelted the dog is. We have a policy of humanity before vaniety so if a dog is pelted the groomer will work at these before the dog goes into the tub. Since the groomer and all us employees own big coated dogs we never make a customer feel as though they are evil for a coat that may not be in the best of condition. We try to educate them by kindly showing them how to properly brush out a big coated dog. Its surprising how many people buy these dogs and have never had any one explain to them that it takes work to keep their dogs coat looking like they do in dog books. :lol: I also can't believe how many dogs I have bathed that have whole feces in their pants 8O and these are indoor dogs that sleep with their owners! 8O
I love your post guest...lol.... especially the last bit... too funny....
I was at a dog event with Carl last weekend, he was in all of his long coated glory. I am absolutely shocked, amazed, stunned at the amount of people, there had to be at least 30, who stopped and asked if I had to brush him a lot. Most of these people said that they always wanted an OES but didn't want to brush all of the time. Others figured it wouldn't be that hard because they themselves had long hair at one time in their lives, right!
One woman even said that they would be getting a sheepdog but wouldn't be brushing him, just letting him grow out. She stated that they didn't need brushed at all if you were letting them grow "natural", a friend had read that somewhere and she was pretty sure it was true. My mom almost had to pull me off of that woman.
From all of the discussions that I had with people, you'd think that I was on an anit-OES kick. I told them everything bad about sheepdogs, from their size, to their strong wills, to their grooming and constant herding. I had them run their fingers through Carl's coat to see how dense and hard to work with it was. (Didn't do much for his appearence but did help people realize what they would be up against.) The general answer that I got was but they're so cute! People kill me.
Maxmm, I feel your pain. I'm always going an extra mile to discourage people from getting an OES. I tell them how much care they need, the space thay take, how they like to hog the bed and how hyperactive they are.... They look at me with weird faces and ask me then, how come I have 2 living at home and care for a third... They must think I'm crazy :lol:

Everyone thinks they are soooooo cute and a lot of people stops me in the street to ask me if I sell puppies, sometimes they even give me their phone number to call them as soon as puppies are available. Knowing that more than half of these sheepies will end up in the shelter because people could not stand their crazy nature :( , I'd rather discourage everyone I meet.
Just wait until "The Shaggy Dog" comes out. You will be saying stuff like that a lot.
I feel your pain on this one. I get the people that get that OES and discover how difficult the job is! All the other owners coming in to pickup are saying the exact same thing. "oh I always wanted one of those" "oh look it's a Mr Muggs Dog!" "Can he see?" Meanwhile we are doing our best to wedge through the matts on this poor beast, keep him as comfortable as possible and cursing the owner for neglecting the dog in the first place. I'll bet that the OES is one of the most neglected dogs of most of the breeds. It's really sad.
I think I need to check into how much a groomer costs for Momo with a full coat - just in case. But if it's going to be a shave - I think I'll just do it myself. :? I just don't feel like paying some guy to run a razer over her butt when I have the same ability. :lol:

Although I might pay them to trim around her face if needed.
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