Head And Shoulders Shampoo
I used head and shoulders on Sky last tme I bathed her because it was all I had handy. I was impressed with the results, her whites came very clean, even her beard was not stained badly. Sky decided to get into pizza, and so I had to wash her beard again this morning, and I am amazed at the results. So white, and no real effort involved. I just put some head and shoulders in her beard after I wet it, rubbed it in, rinsed it out. |
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I have got to try this. your never know what will work. Thanks Stacey for sharing.  |
| Be careful though since human shampoo will dry out their skin and dull their coat sometimes because it doesnt have the nutrients that dog shampoo has in it .... |
| I don't think that's true in most cases. An expensive product labelled for dogs is more than likely no different than what we use.
Many dog show people say the best thing is plain old palmolive dish soap. LOL There is no reason a dogs skin should be any dryer than ours. If it is dry, the solution can be found in nutrition and water, sometimes the humidity of the environment (lack thereof) Less commonly a skin problem may be caused by allergies, more commonly by parasites. |
| Stacey, I do have to agree with you there! I have heard that the ph of a dog is different, but I think it is only very slightly different. So I don't think a shampoo should be any more drying made for people or a dog.
You are rinsing the shampoo out quite thoroughly after all, and chances are you aren't shampooing the dog daily, probably not even weekly. I think there is a bundle of money in putting a 'dog lable' on any product. Just my 2 cents! Shellie |
| And if the hair or skin are dry you can always condition. Oatmeal shampoo or conditioner if the skin is dry or a high protein conditioner if the hair is dry. I was told to always condition the hair after doing any chemical stripping (Bleaching) because it can dry the hair and cause it to break off. Even some of the less intense whiteners can cause dryness. There are even some of the whitening dog shampoos that will cause drying so be attentive especially now that it's colder and dryer. Just like your skin gets dryer and needs more moisture, their hair and skin can get dryer even if you are just doing the same thing you always do. |
Willowsprite wrote: I think I have found a miracle shampoo.... I use head and shoulders to help prevent my dog from scratching, and she has never had fleas.I used head and shoulders on Sky last tme I bathed her because it was all I had handy. I was impressed with the results, her whites came very clean, even her beard was not stained badly. Sky decided to get into pizza, and so I had to wash her beard again this morning, and I am amazed at the results. So white, and no real effort involved. I just put some head and shoulders in her beard after I wet it, rubbed it in, rinsed it out. |
Head and Shoulders???? It's on my grocery list....I'll try ANYTHING to get Hearts beard white like the rest of her......  |
| It is a strong shampoo... be careful... used to remove tar off cars. It actually removes a layer of skin off your (human) head, when you stop using it the layer comes back but also causes dandurff to come back. I would not use it all the time.
Just my 2 cents |
I might try this sometime, though my biggest concern would be that its not tearless. George and I both wind up in the bath, so there's no telling who would get the shampoo in their eyes, me or him or both. Hopefully neither, lol. Getting his large rump in the bath is the difficult part, he takes up the entire tub! Well, it feels that way anyways. He doesn't fight the bath, but he doesn't run to get in either. Although he does watch me while I shower....  |
| The first groomer I went to used head and shoulders shampoo on the white dogs.
George used to come out of there very white. I think I might take some to the new groomers and ask her to use it on him |
| my hubby is allergic to shampoos so we use the head and shoulders sensitive variety it might be worth a look into, its the same cost as all the different one cost the same. it not easy to find everywhere and the conditioner is near impossible to get (i've run out and keep looking)
i had a groomer who use dog shampoo but he said is his clients didn't expect him too he would just us a medicated human one thats what he used on his own dogs and the very first place i used just used johnsons baby shampoo. zoe and einy |
| Mine are due for baths this weekend and I have some head and shoulders hanging around I may try this. I think I may use a richer conditioner afterwards though. |
| I recently was talking to a vet friend that has 4 chows. I was telling him that Abi seems to be itching now more as if she had fleas. He told me that in the winter he only uses Selsun Blue on his chows. Selsun Blue contains 3% Salicylic Acid. This reduces the itching, and eliminates hot spots, in his chows. Head and Shoulders is probably just as safe and if it has a whitening feature.. woohoo... that's a bonus. Unfortunately I bought a gallon of something else at a show and am just starting on it and can't switch yet. I can't wait to try it though. BTW he also told me that a human hair dryer blows hot air and might be drying Abi's skin. So of course for x-mas on my wish list was a good doggie hair dryer. Now I have a dog hair dryer and am waiting to use the new shampoo. Thanks for the post. |
| Well for another 2-cents worth. Our vet recommended Dawn Dish Detergent. None of our dogs itch as much as with the doggie brands and the blue does seem to whiten more than the whitening shampoos. I cannot complain about the price either - cheap compared to doggie or human brands.
I did put the Dawn in a large spray bottle and added same amount of water. I think Carl Lindon suggested this in one of his posts and it works wonderfully. Gets the soap right into the deepest part of the fur. By the way, the Dawn seems to rinse out easier.  Now all I have to do is use up the umteen bottles of other things we have tried.  |
Lemon scent? 
Wouldn't that cause him to lick himself all over, since he would now smell like the dishes? |
Ron wrote: Lemon scent?
Wouldn't that cause him to lick himself all over, since he would now smell like the dishes? Funny, Ron. No, the Blue Dawn, at least the one I have is more flowery scent. Maybe that is why they like to play in the flower beds! |
| One of my girlfriends used Dawn on her own hair recently. She had her hair colored, RED,and apparently, the color took hold of the grey in her hair and instead of being RED, it was shockingly VIOLET. The hairdresser told her to use Dawn, which she did, FOUR TIMES, to no avail. She had to have some light brown added to it to make it more normal looking. |
| Our groomeer mixes Dawn wqith shampoo. I find when I do it myself the Dawn seems to let the hair get a bit wetter quicker - which is always a problem. |
| I just wanted to say that I've used Head and Shoulders conditioner on my dog and the change in her coat and skin condition has chaned remarkably. i get compliments everywhere i take her how beautiful her coat is and how white her white is. So I highly recommend it. And as for the Dawn dish deteregent, the two together are a great, and economical combination. Does everyone know that Hartz and Sargent's products and absolutely the worst products on the market for our animals!? I beg you not to purchase them, do your own research, and tell everyone you know who loves their dogs as much as we do.
thanks, and God bless! |
| How often are you guys n galls washing your sheepies? I am feeling like a really bad owner
Archie hasn't been shampooed in months, I find his whites clean up really nice after getting all muddy then a quick paddle about in the river, once dry and brushed out he is nice and white again, he hardly ever has a scratch. It's not that I am against bathing him, it is just that I found I couldn't get him wetted thoroughly enough before he got bored and escaped out of the bath |
| Hi Debby,
Welcome! |
| I wash Violet OES, China/Asia my Aussies weekly with Dawn dishwashing liquid. Violet is a "snow top" and has a lot of white fur. Her fur never looks stained and I don't have any problem soaking her down and rinsing her out. China, one of my Aussies, is a Merle, but has a white face/chest and white underside. Dawn works great on her also.....no staining. Asia is a Black Tri Aussie and has some white but not much. her legs are "Irish Speckle" so mostly white with black speckles.
I heard about using Dawn through this forum. It was very good advise. Thank you! |
| This popped up at a good time. I was going to do a search to find what people were using to get whites clean. Simon's face and beard are nasty. I've used whitening shampoo's and wasted my money.
I've got Dawn, I'll try that first and if that doesn't work I'm off to the store for Head and Shoulders. |
| I wash the girls weekly; otherwise all their activities leave them dirty and smelly.
I use fancy dog shampoos, and have a mountain of different ones I've tried, and been happy with all. For whitening I like Chris Christiansen White on White and Mr. Grooms Whitener. But I'll give head and Shoulders as well as Dawn a try. Why not; I have to mail order the stuff i use now; it'd be nice to be able to get my supplies from the super market! On a side note; has anyone used their dog's shampoo on themselves? I used one variety (Bio Groom with Honeysuckle scent), and was very pleased with the results. Now if I'm showering after the girls have had their baths, and their shampoo is still sitting on the bath's ledge, I always think about using it. |
| I will have to try this . I have used dog shampoos in the past but lately have been using the sauve orange blossum for moisturizing. I have even used the conditioner and I really like the results with that. They also smell orangy afterwards |
| Last winter, Phoebe took off chasing some deer. When we found her, she had abrasions on every foot from crunching through the ice-covered snow. We put her into the bathtub and I use anti-biotic Dawn on her feet. Was I ever surprised at how white her feet became! The dog shampoo I had used just didn't do the trick.
I wash her feet and face once a week before we go to the nursing home to visit. Other than that, she only gets an overall bath at the groomers about 4-5 times a year. |
| Charlie gets a bath about twice a week. Between the dirt, mud, and slobber from Libby biting all over his head, he needs it!! This weekend, I tried the Head and Shoulders. I was SHOCKED how white his fur came out! I'm definitely going to try adding Dawn to the mix and see what's happening with that. As big as he's getting and needing a bath so often, we go through a LOT of shampoo!! |
| I think I might try that too. We've been using Herbal Essences as it makes him smell lovely for a couple of weeks, with Aussie 3 Minute Miracle on the parts which get matted, I can now leave him for 4 days without him matting.
He gets a bath about every 6 weeks, with his legs hosed down and sometimes shampooed when they get smelly between. |
Charlie does ok until he starts rough-housing with Libby (our other dog) or our daughter's English Mastiff/Great Dane puppy (weighs 50+ lbs. at 5 months!!). His head gets disgustingly slobbery and stinky. White hair goes kind of yellow and it is gross!!  I wish he could stay "pretty" for more than a day!!
I've never used conditioner but wondered about it. He's only had two really small matts--one on his ear and one on his muzzle. I was able to get both of them out with that sweet de-matter that's been talked about on this forum. Do we just use "human" conditioner?? |
| I've been buying all kinds of dog shampoos and conditioners; the ones I am liking best are from Chris Christiansen. But I'm begining to wonder if I'm wasting my money! 4 days without matting is better than I'm doing right now. |
| Hey guys/gals,
With all this talk about using Head and Shoulder's shampoo for whitening being re-started I just want to remind you to be cautious in how you use it. Remember that Head and Shoulder's is first and foremost a dandruff shampoo which is chemically balanced for use on human scalps. This means it contains a number of heavy metal containing compounds, notably, but not only, selenium. Be very careful that your dogs don't try to drink the shampoo/water mix that will inevitably splash over their face or collect in the bottom of the tub. While a single exposure, or even 2 or 5 or 10 won't make your Bobtail sick, unless they drink a huge amount of it, such compounds poison by their cumulative effect. That is they slowly build up and poison internal organs. The liver and kidneys are the most susceptible to heavy metal contamination but they are hard on all organs and in fact the blood itself can become poisoned. That being said I do occassionally use Head and Shoulders (carefully) but find that Cardinal blue diamond shampoo is more effective when used properly. There are a number of other brands which market whitening shampoos and they are probably equally effective when used correctly. Thanks and Cheers Carl |
Darth Snuggle wrote: I've been buying all kinds of dog shampoos and conditioners; the ones I am liking best are from Chris Christiansen. But I'm begining to wonder if I'm wasting my money! 4 days without matting is better than I'm doing right now.
Darth and all, My personal opinion is that many of the "dog" shampoos are both over rated and certainly over-priced. I'm even more suspect of the so called "premium" brands. For general cleaning and conditioning I have always gotten excellent results when using a quality "human" shampoo. For my Bobtails I am currently using the "Eurpoean" brand that I get at Walmart. While it isn't cheap it is far less expensive than most dog shampoos and it gives very good results. I have also used the same shampoo on my Afghans but find Pantene is much better suited to their silky coats - sometimes you just have to try a few of the options before you find the one that works for you and your dog and is readily available. Where I do recommend dog shampoos is for very specific hair treatments for which there are no equivalent needs among humans. For Bobtails that means using a whitening shampoo to get the whites bright and if you are bathing your dog frequently using a "terrier" shampoo (also referred to as "harsh coat" shampoo) to keep the grizzle coat properly textured. In both cases do the "bulk cleaning" with a good quality human shampoo to remover the dirt, then rinse throughly and finally use the specific purpose shampoo. That way you are not wasting the expensive single purpose dog shampoo doing the basic cleaning and their chemicals have the opportunity of reacting with the clean hair shafts directly. Thanks and Cheers Carl |
| Hey Carl! Nice to see you back.
How about a conditioner... what do you recommend? If you had a dog you had to bathe frequently, what shampoo would you use? I'm thinking something pretty diluted for my seasonal allergy girl... just to soothe the skin and maybe remove pollen (if it's even part of the problem ) |
6Girls wrote: Hey Carl! Nice to see you back.
How about a conditioner... what do you recommend? If you had a dog you had to bathe frequently, what shampoo would you use? I'm thinking something pretty diluted for my seasonal allergy girl... just to soothe the skin and maybe remove pollen (if it's even part of the problem )Jaci, Thanks for the kind welcome back! Not knowing what is available in your area it is hard to make a recommendation. The best guidline I can give is to buy a quality shampoo and conditioner of the same brand that is as free as possible of perfumes, oils and other potential allergens. Using the same brand helps ensure that both products are compatible with each other. Again I find the European brand at Walmart just as good a conditioner as it is a shampoo. Use the "extra body" variety to get the most bulk possible and have your Bobtail fully fluffed out. I don't think frequency of bathing is a determining factor in what shampoo and/or conditioner you use. Nor is dilution of any importance. To prevent skin irritation or allergic reactions the most important factor in bathing your dog, especially if they have sensitive skins (often mistaken as an allergic reaction) or a legitimate allergic reactions is to completely and thoroughly rinse all the shampoo and conditioner from their coats and skins. Very often the "skin allergy" is simply the irritation of soap and conditioner residue on the skin utlimately drying it out. When I bath my dogs it takes in the order of 15 minutes of rinsing to remove each of the the shampoos and conditoner from their coats, and that is with a good pulsing showerhead that gets the water very deep into the coat and high pressure so there is a good flow. So if I shampoo, whiten and then condition there is at least 45 minutes of rinsing the coats involved. In fact I will often extend the final post conditioner rinse by 5 minutes or more to ensure everything is flushed out of the coat. I have never had any dry skin or "skin allergies" and this meticulous bathing routine is undoubtedly a large contributing factor in that. However conditioner is about the worst thing for proper grizzle coat texture! The grizzle coat is supposed to be much harsher than the whites so if you want to keep the coat in it's proper texture, and hence retain it's water resistant character you need to strictly limit how much conditioner is used and in fact limit the number of baths the grizzle gets. Too many baths and/or too much conditioner will soften the grizzle until there is barely a discernable difference between it and the whites. If you don't care about proper coat texture then go to town with the conditioner. Anyway, as ever don't hesitate to ask more. Thaks and Cheers Carl |
Hint of Mischief wrote: ....with his legs hosed down and sometimes shampooed when they get smelly between.
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| Thanks for all the info, Carl. So as long as I rinse thoroughly, it shouldn't be a problem? Unfortunately, it's true seasonal allergies from August through December . The vets say it's inhaled and not a contact problem. For the past 4 seasons we've given allergy shots for but they've provided little relief. So I give Darby frequent baths this time of the year.
Quote: However conditioner is about the worst thing for proper grizzle coat texture!
 So I don't have to feel guilty about not using conditioner?
They're on a good dog food, receive oil supplements and thyroid levels are right so flaking and dry skin isn't a problem. We keep them pretty short too for easier/faster bathing/drying. Thanks again! |
6Girls wrote: :phew: So I don't have to feel guilty about not using conditioner?
They're on a good dog food, receive oil supplements and thyroid levels are right so flaking and dry skin isn't a problem. We keep them pretty short too for easier/faster bathing/drying. Well no guilt for not using conditioner on the grizzle coat anyways!! I wouldn't totally dispense with conditioner though. Condition the whites fairly well and give a light treatment to the grzzle coat just to help keep it from tangling before you get it dry. Thanks and Cheers Carl |
| Sorry to sound dumb but...what's "the grizzle coat"?? (Still new to all of this lingo...) |
Charlie's Fam wrote: Sorry to sound dumb but...what's "the grizzle coat"?? (Still new to all of this lingo...)
The grays. |
Ahhhh......makes sense!! 
Thanks! |
| There is a video on u tube that has two OES sitting with a bottle of head and shoulders on the table. It's pretty funny.
As for Obe he gets a bath 4 times a year by a groomer. In the summer he plays in the creek and the winter lots of snow on the ground, so no dirt for him to lay/play in. I can walk him early in the morning and he gets all wet from the morning dew. We walk back up the dirt road to the house he is nasty. A quick wipe off of the paws with a dry towel and off to work. I come home his paws are not WHITE but they are not dirty either. I dont show him so I dont see a reason to wash him 20 times a year JMO. Besides that when we go somewhere walks, bank, home depot, etc. everyone compliments on his coat and asks how do you keep him so clean looking. I say he has self cleaning mechanism built in that removes the dirt. If I did wash him all the time all he would do is go lay in the drive (dirt) or in the yard so I really just wasted my time. His coat does not stink ever, he does not get matted, due to brushing (Dairymaid thanks for the brush works great). I do wash his beard 1 or 2 times a month with #1 All Systems whitening gel works great. |
shon wrote: There is a video on u tube that has two OES sitting with a bottle of head and shoulders on the table. It's pretty funny.
As for Obe he gets a bath 4 times a year by a groomer. In the summer he plays in the creek and the winter lots of snow on the ground, so no dirt for him to lay/play in. I can walk him early in the morning and he gets all wet from the morning dew. We walk back up the dirt road to the house he is nasty. A quick wipe off of the paws with a dry towel and off to work. I come home his paws are not WHITE but they are not dirty either. I dont show him so I dont see a reason to wash him 20 times a year JMO. Besides that when we go somewhere walks, bank, home depot, etc. everyone compliments on his coat and asks how do you keep him so clean looking. I say he has self cleaning mechanism built in that removes the dirt. If I did wash him all the time all he would do is go lay in the drive (dirt) or in the yard so I really just wasted my time. His coat does not stink ever, he does not get matted, due to brushing (Dairymaid thanks for the brush works great). I do wash his beard 1 or 2 times a month with #1 All Systems whitening gel works great. oh dear GOD... I just looked at your photos and Obe is GORGEOUS. FOUR TIMES A YEAR?!? I'm on day 8 since last bathing the girls, and am stunned that they aren't filthy. I don't know how you do it; but maybe its that magic brush? What kind; where do I get it... inquiring minds need to know!!!! |
| I got the brush came from dairymaid here on the forum. Compared to the #1 All Systems pin brush I was using before I'll take this new one any day. Dont know much about it just have to contact him through a pm.
Obe's last bath was in early July. His next grooming visit is Oct 17th. I'm not sure how I do it to be honest other than brushing. He is probably inside a little more than out just because he stays in while I'm at work. Fri- Sun he comes and goes as he pleases since I'm off. |
| Hi,
I agree with carl you really should not be using human shampoo on the dogs, I have just started to use the show season speed dry and i have to say it works wonders with the big double coats, the drying time is halfed. they also do a whole range of shampoo's for every situation. Val |
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