Show grooming?
For showing do they need to have their eyes covered with their hair? OES always do in shows and the judges always seem to pick dogs with sweet experessions but you can't tell the oes experesion with their eyes covered?! Just curious. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! |
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| I'm surprised a rescue would allow her to be adopted out unfixed?
If you have her papers you should have no trouble entering her, as long as her papers are in your name. For a comprehensive list of shows all over north America, go to www.dogbiz.com Also, the hair needs to be kept completely full for show, with trimming only on the rear and feet for cleanliness, but even that is something that needs to be done very carefull for the look required for show. |
| Thanks for the reply.
I didn't get her from a rescue. I got her from the first owner who got her as a pet but she got "too big". So I got her at a great deal. Her family has all showed and done very well. They are through the Winston Line? If that means anything to you?! Her papers are in my name. People always say I should show her. The person I got her from is unreachable and I have tried to track down her breeder with no avail. So maybe I will email you and get moredetails on showing if that is ok. I know she fits the show standards due from books and vets and internet. |
I am not very experienced as far as showing goes just yet, still learning. 
If you keep posting whatever questions come to mind there are a few more experienced members in this area. |
| I'm not sure your location but for US shows you can find out scheduling and can register through http://www.infodog.com
I would also suggest attending dog shows and perhaps trying to find a mentor there to help you groom for show, it is a lot of work. I would say you need to devote around 4 hours a week to keep a show coat looking up to par. Also find your local kennel club and enroll in dog show handling classes to teach you & your dog about the ring. Frank is my first show dog but I've learned so much in the last several months by just getting myself out there. Don't be afraid to take constructive criticism either and please don't get discouraged. |
Thanks for the responses. I did go to one show in town and talked to people. Some where very nice and some were kinda rude and told me to talk to the breeder. I will continue to go and signing up for the kennel club was a good idea! Thanks!  |
| Definitely keep going to shows! You need to meet someone who can mentor you and can help you with hands on learning. This is one thing where book learning will only take you so far.
If you're in the US the OESCA has a mentor list on their website. Contact one of the people who are in your area and ask them for help or if they know anyone who is near you to help. If you're in Canada, the OESCC should have a similar system. If you got a catalog at the last show you were out, the contact info for everyone entered in the show is in the back. Look at the names of the owners under the dogs entered and crossreference. Ask if they'll be at any shows coming up and if you can at least come watch. Nothing, nothing, nothing will compare to getting your hands on a dog and being there when the "magic" happens. Leave your dog at home and practice on someone else's that way if you screw it up....... There are also some good web references out there. Check this one out: http://www.tolkienoes.com/Seminar_Index.htm It's a great teaching tool for really understanding the physicality of the OES and it'll help you understand what people are striving for in OES. The Stein's, they own Tolkien OES, have been showing since before I was born and have some nice dogs. (Don't pay too much attention to the hairdressing section. We competed against them this weekend and I didn't want to overdo the teasing and hairspray but they do it too! Just keep in mind that structure is always more important than windowdressing.) There is also a judge's seminar on www.oldenglishsheepdogclubofamerica.org Pretty good, leaves a little to be desired for novice people. Needs more plain language but some good examples. Once again, I'd stress getting out there, meeting the people, getting involved. Also, you never know what tips and secrets you might overhear when you're out there getting your feet wet. Good luck and make sure you have some thick skin before you even start! |
| Tolkien is a great kennel. Angela Stein was kind enough to help me out with Frank since she's only 20 minutes from me vs. our breeder who is 3.5 hours. Their illustrations of the physical sheepdog standard are probably the best out there right now for the breed.
Hey Mandy? Will you be at the Philly Kennel Club show? We'll be there Saturday and hopefully Sunday if Frank does well being benched all day. |
| I believe we are registered for Friday, Saturday and Sunday in Philly. Maybe it's just Friday and Saturday, either way, we'll be there for some of it. What class is Frank in? I would laugh like crazy if they're in the same class.
If anybody else is in the Philly area next weekend, come to the show and look us up. I'll be the one with the psychotic sheepdog who likes to run! |
Maxmm wrote: I believe we are registered for Friday, Saturday and Sunday in Philly. Maybe it's just Friday and Saturday, either way, we'll be there for some of it. What class is Frank in? I would laugh like crazy if they're in the same class.
If anybody else is in the Philly area next weekend, come to the show and look us up. I'll be the one with the psychotic sheepdog who likes to run! What weekend is it happening? I'm out of town this weekend but it it were the following weekend, I would love to see it. |
| Thanks for the links, Maxmm. What a wealth of information for a novice like me. Although I have no interest in conformation showing, I want my dogs to look their best. |
| Val, the official Philadelphia Kennel Club dog show is Sat 11/19 & Sun 11/20. It is a benched show which is nice for spectators because the dogs can't leave after they are exhibited which is cool if you're there to see a particular breed. Here is the link to the show http://www.philadogshow.com/ . It's really geared towards families because they have obedience and I believe agility events. Not sure what time the sheepdogs are exhibiting yet and it looks like only 11 are entered on Saturday. The show on Friday is not a benched show and even though it's at the same location in Fort Washington, it's hosted by the Philly Dog Fanciers Association.
Mandy, Frank will be in the open dog class. Toby's still in puppy class I'm assuming? Still working on getting the puppy coat out so Frank's coat will probably be looking pretty scrappy unless it all changes over in 2 weeks.  |
| Yup, Toby's still working the puppy class, especially since he's decided he likes to run and act like a spaz in the ring. Hopefully it'll only take a little while for him to grow out of it.
We'll see how he acts at class tonight.  |
| Very cool. I am going to try and bring my 9 yr old nephew. He is pleading with his parents for a dog and I'm sure he'd love to see the varieties, the tricks, etc. . . |
| Thanks for all the info!! What a great start. I wish I was in Philly I would check you guys out! Good luck in the show ring! |
| I would suggest you find a conformation class. It's a good way for you and your dog to learn together, they may also have fun matches you can compete in, no glory if you win but lots of fun and good experience.
Hey, you guys should all enter Cobo in March. It's a bench show and the Jill's and I will come every day to cheer you on It's a major! |
| Absolutely, I'd go. Heck, I'll go anyway but it wuld be eeven better to have someone to cheer for! |
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