Nana from Peter Pan?
But I always thought it was a Newfoundland. Anyone know? |
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| I always thought she "looked" like a Bearded Collie myself. |
Nah, Nana was an OES  |
| I just am getting confused. I did tell Mr. J the other night it was an OES. I just can't find anything online (peter pan type resource) that says it.
In the movie (not cartoon), they used 3 Newfoundlands. Then a literature network on James Barrie's work, there's a question about what the dog was. The replies (scroll down to the person who asks what kind a dog it is, directs you to a link with 8 replies) http://www.online-literature.com/barrie/peterpan/ In the replies, someone says they quoted from the story. Their reply: Quote: From chapter I:<br><br>Mrs. Darling loved to have everything just so, and Mr. Darling had a passion for being exactly like his neighbours; so, of course, they had a nurse. As they were poor, owing to the amount of milk the children drank, this nurse was a prim Newfoundland dog, called Nana, who had belonged to no one in particular until the Darlings engaged her.
http://www.online-literature.com/forums ... eadid=7046 |
| I always thought Nana was a Newfoundland. |
| Well everything I can find says newf... I always thought it was on oes....lol.... oh well, an oes would have been better! LOL |
| I agree that OES' fit the description! I always thought it was an OES too. |
| In the Movie "Hook" Nana was an OES. I thought that was why they were called Nanny Dogs. |
I think every movie would be better with a sheepie...but that's just me!  |
| What's funny is I found a company selling a plush toy (w/DISNEY label) that had a description saying it was a St. Bernard. It got me curious, so I decided to browse through the Disney Store website.
Here they sell a Peter Pan "nana" spinner. In the desciption, it says: Quote: A dumbfounded Nana looks on as her charges, the Darling children, fly away to Never Land on this spectacular gold-finished spinner pin. The lovable Saint Bernard is featured at center, while behind her the silhouettes of Wendy, Michael, John and Peter Pan soar against a starry night sky on a separate, rotating layer. This captivating collectible is a limited edition of 500 pins. Pin was developed by Disney Auctions and features a Disney Auctions backstamp and card.
http://disneyshopping.go.com/DSSearch.p ... chstr=nana They have a picture of remake of Peter Pan (not cartoon) and the dog here. Is it not a St. Bernard?? http://movies.about.com/library/weekly/bl121303j.htm |
| Let's not forget the recent "Finding Neverland" where the dog was a Pyrnean Mastiff (different that a Great Pyrenees). |
| I think the directors of each various movie choose to make the dog whichever large fluffy dog their chosen trainer has available at the time. Of copurse, disney animators COULD have chosen to "stay true" to the book and draw a Newfie, but lets face it, the general public of the time probably found St. Bernards more recognizable of a breed then Newfies. I can't even remember what sort of dog they used in "Hook" if there even was one.... anybody remember a dog in Hook?! That's one of my favorite reincarnations of the peter pan story! Does anyone know of a movie version of Peter Pan where they actually used a newfie?
Karen |
| The only thing I can find is from the same source I posted above:
Basically saying that it's been a St. Bernard since the beginning. Quote: In the text of the play "Peter Pan" she is described as a Newfoundland dog. However, since the play first opened in 1904 Nana has traditionally been portrayed with the same colors & pattern as Barrie's own dog in real life. Cf. "The Peter Pan Chronicles" by Bruce Hanson
http://www.online-literature.com/forums ... eadid=7046 |
I'm too much of an English major to swallow that! If the book and play say newfoundland, then it should be a newfoundland.  I can't help myself
Karen |
| I feel the same way.
yesterday I found a movie premiere site that said they used three newfoundlands for one of the movies. It had to be a typo. I'm having trouble finding it today. In Peter Pan they used 3 male St. Bernards. |
| I have a 1st edition of The Plays of J. M. Barrie published in 1928. In the dedication it tells about a dog like Nana in The Boy Castaways and belonged to a pirate named Swarthy...anyway, the dog ends up in Peter Pan and is a Newfie. However after I read a few pages, it liked to head butt the kids and run around with the kids items in her mouth. She also collides into Mr. Darling with a wet sponge (it is one of the kids bathtimes) and soaks his pants....hmmm...sounds like a sheepie to me!
I thought they used a bearded collie for The Shaggy Dog? |
| i thought it was a st bernard? |
| She's a newfoundland "a prim newfoundland dog called Nana" (a quote from the book) |
| I thought it was an OES but there are paintings on the web which actually show it as a brown and white newfoundland!! |
Sir Gucci's Mom wrote: I think every movie would be better with a sheepie...but that's just me!
I feel the same way.  |
| wow - how wrong have I been for years! |
Well don't tell our Nana that she wasn't named after a famous OES.  |
| OES in Hook...St Bernard in the Disney cartoon...Newfie in Finding Neverland. I always remembered it being a St Bernard...but a Newfie looks the same to me. I think Newfies have the better temperment though. The Shaggy dog was an OES until the newest one. |
| She was a St. Bernard on the Peter Pan for TV with Mary Martin |
| Finding Neverland..........that ain't a Newf! http://www.ohjohnny.net/neverland/neverland.html
Not all Great Pyrs or Pyrnean Mastiff's are 100% white. The coloring is perfectly acceptable as long as it's not more than 50% A friend has one who is about 51% grey and biscuit.......sometimes she got points, sometimes she was excused from the ring. |
| the newfie people claim ( I haven't verified this) that Barrie's own dog was a Newf and hence the character in the book. Problem is Hollywood don't know one dog from another- oh need a BIG DOG here , anyone will do |
| Nana was a Newfie but the St B confusion comes from
Quote: Barrie based the character of Nana, though not the breed, on his dog "Porthos", a Saint Bernard.[12] |
| Yes, I thought OES too...wrong again, deb! But! In little mermaid, Prince Erik's Max was definately an OES! (I cry everytime I watch that movie!) |
| Yes it says newfoundland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Darli ... _character)#John_Darling |
| Barrie specifically said that Nana was a Newfoundland dog but confusion entered when Disney portrayed her as a St Bernard. Where you all got the idea she was an OES, I have no idea. |
| Wait - The Peter Pan movie with Mary Martin had Nana as a sheepdog - But it was a sheepdog costume with people in it. The link below is a kind of slide show of stills from the movie, but the dog is in them.............I also remember her being called 'Katie Nana' (?)
http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/107/ ... GbRTCy.jpg It was a very realistic sheepdog, actually - Huge bouncy and goofy. This is the only Peter Pan I remember well - I've watched it a hundred times. |
| That's the one I remember too and have watched 100 times |
| Yes Nana is a Newfoundland, I played her in Peter Pan and Wendy last year. |
| My mistake...They did use a different breed in Finding Neverland. I was thinking Landseer Newfie. |
| when they were making the last remake of "the shaggy dog" I had a call from the producer in CA wanting to know if they could use my whole litter..... but wanted me to leave the tails on them. Told them nooooooooo that if they wanted a OES, it wouldn't have a tail. They said due to the AR groups they had to leave them naturally. I told them no would not leave the tails on. I din't now anyone at that time that WOULD leave a tail on...... that they needed to go w/ a bearded collie. Lo and behold that is what they did..... I didn't believe when they called it was a real call. fooled me wrong! oh well still wouldn't have left tails on a whole litter just for movies. |
| I can't believe you didn't post about this when it happened! That's really cool. I'm curious as to why they just didn't go with another breeder. If an OES is what they wanted, I'm sure it would be an OES they would get. Not sure why they would care if the breeder was on a referral list. ...and there had to be 1000 breeders with nice looking dogs that would breed once with tails for them to be in a movie and get $$$$$. |
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