June~~2007 Quote: I am desperate for a baby OES....I have emailed various breeders and no one is responding to my requests....HELP!!! I really would like another OES...my lovely OES Pearl is 9 years old and I would love to give her a companion to enjoy. Also, Pearl is a therapy dog and in a couple of years will be retiring and I would love to go through the training with another OES.....Believe me, all the clients just smile and laugh when my "Pear Girl" and I walk in the door.... Please help me!!! VAL After this was posted I did receive 12 responses from the special people who were on the forum in June 2007. And after 7017 posts I still feel a strong connection to everyone who has been or is now on this magical website. I say magical because, due to Ron and his gentle care of this site, I was able to form so so very many friendships from around the world!!! Most of my special friends I have never met in person....however....I feel so very close to all of them, like family..they understand my passion for OES's~~for pet therapy~for the UNconditional support we give each other ~for my wanting to belong. Forum friends have been with me through 2 OES's and 1 quirky Beardie's crossing to Rainbow Bridge. I can tell you all that, without the support of ALL of you through those dark, utterly sad times, I would not have seen the light for a very long time. The empathy on this site is beyond astonishing!!! I would like to thank each and every one of you, for being there for me, with me, through some happy and some sad moments in my life. I am sure many of you feel the same!!!!!! THANK YOU~~RON and all the various moderators through the years..... I will be a more frequent patron of this site from here on out!!!!! Facebook will never be as personal or as close to my heart as this Forum is. |
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Hi Val |
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Hi~~Ron.....missed you....Question...is that a good WOW....or a bad WOW???????????????? |
Just a wow wow. Almost 10 years, 7000 posts, everything. It's been a while too. |
^^^^^^^ Yes...Ron... But somehow, it seems like yesterday.......funny how time get away from you...(me)... |
You know, Ron, folks have drifted away from this forum to Facebook, but I get the sense that many of us miss it terribly and want to drift back. Val in particular was someone who was and is very important to me. So supportive in our early puppy days and onward. We started agility and therapy dog work because of Val and a few others who were so encouraging and this summer, Mady got a fifth place in one of her runs, in a National competition!! That is because of this forum and special people like Val who were part of the oes.org community. David and I drove, TWICE, to St. Louis Missouri because of your OES.org forum, Ron. That is crazy!! Ottawa to St. Louis with three sheepies in a hatchback car! We would never in a million years have done that drive for any other reason than to meet our oes.org friends like Val. That led to the Sheepie Shindig event in Canada. Think about that for a second, Ron. This special community has created friendships and sparked events that cross international borders. We had our honeymoon in a vineyard in Hungary because of someone we met on this forum. For heaven's sake, Gracie and Murphy had BABIES because we met Karen and David on this forum. You are responsible for the existence of ten sheepie babies!! If not for oes.org, we would have just been sheepdog owners, going for walks every day. Instead we do agility, herding, therapy dog work, have friends from all over, every walk of life. Today in particular, I am sick to death of facebook. I want to see my oes.org friends. Ron, the one thing that I think has kept folks away is the ability to easily post photos. Is there anything we can do to fix that? Can we chip in and buy server space somewhere? If there is anything we can do to help, let us know. If not, then I will at least have taken the opportunity to thank you for this forum. I might not always have agreed with every post I have seen here, and indeed there are more than plenty of my own posts that I wish I had never made and could take back, but at its core it is a fine group of people and I am so happy to have met so many of them and I miss them. |
The space issue can probably be addressed, but the software is broken and needs to be fully replaced with a more up-to-date system, and it needs to be integrated into a more current and secure forum system, it's a darn big job and there's a bit of a chicken-or-egg issue with motivating me to do all that; it will take several weeks of full time effort to do it, but why do it if there's not going to be anyone using it? It's not a ton of money, maybe $500 to get a better version of a bulletin board and a photo gallery if I do all the work myself... and I'd do it, but fb is sucking up all of the people and the time they would be spending here. I understand it, but I can't compete with it. That's the truth. |
ok~~~~ FIRST... I need to wipe the tears out of my eyes after reading the sweet post from my friend, Kim (and David) ((((have to say them both together, just like Val and Dino...right Kim...(and David???) What a wonderful tribute to this forum and the people we all have met through our 'membership' here.!!! And Kim~what you say is the absolute truth...we have all benefitted from this forum..from our long distance friendships..and from taking time to travel sometimes far, sometimes near, to be able to meet and put a face with a name (and a sheepie)...most of who have been there through very rough or very joyful times~~~ WHAT KIM SAID??????????????????? DITTO FROM ME!!!!!!! SECOND Ron.... if you set up a gofund me account and put the information on this website, I am sure we can all pitch in something...even $5.00 will help..if we ALL donate!!!!! We can try......can't we?????? one more thing....facebook may have the ease of pictures...but...they do not have all the bells and whistles like color/bold/large font/quotes/and those marvelous, wonderful emojies....... ,,,,oh and.. the MOST important one............................ love you ~`ron.... AM I RIGHT....OR AM I RIGHT????????? Veterans please weigh in??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
I would never argue with you Val |
The go fund me page is a great idea. We can post on facebook, use it for our nefarious purpose of saving this forum! |
Kim...that is what I was thinking....GREAT MINDS... Ron????? the ball is in your court...let us know when the account is set up and Kim and I will take it from there....If 'we' don't get the goal..??? Oh. well at least we tried, right?????(((but I think we can scrape together at least 500.00 with all the forum members old and new~~~ |
I'm still here!! I don't post a lot mostly cause there's not a lot of posts to respond to. Val I was just thinking about you 12 hours ago and wondering what you were up to!!! I hope everyone keeps posting a bit more. I love hearing what everyone is up to. |
Mim wrote: I'm still here!! I don't post a lot mostly cause there's not a lot of posts to respond to. Val I was just thinking about you 12 hours ago and wondering what you were up to!!! I hope everyone keeps posting a bit more. I love hearing what everyone is up to. Wow look nearly 7000 posts and 8 years end of November. I so wish Tiggy and Heart made it to old age. |
Tiggy and Heart would have been grand old dames, wouldn't they? I think about them both often. |
Yes..Mim~~they would have been the model sheepies...full of joyfulness, spunk, vinegar and just a hint of sugar!!!! I think of Heart often..but I know she is guiding Willow from Rainbow Bridge. and that little Tiggster!!!??? I loved her adventures!!!!! |
I still miss my angel girl every day. And yes, grand old dames is the perfect description Kim. |
I'm trying to find my first post too. It was at least 11 years ago. This is a much kindler, gentler place. Here we can engage in conversations instead of sound bites. People may disagree here, but we do it with a cup of tea. And frankly, I'm tired of politics. Here's my first post, from 2004. It was about what has become SheepieFest! Hello, I'm new here--been lurking a long time though. I'm in the NW Chicago suburbs and would love to come to the picnic even though I don't have a sheepie. Yet. I will someday. I live in an apartment and am gone all day at work so it wouldn't be fair to the dog. But could I come to picnic and play ... |
Paula~~~ I love reading your very first post!!!! Kim////Mim////Mark////Ron....and any/everyone else~~How 'bout posting your very first post here..Remember to add the date too!!! FUN TIMES~~~~again.... |
My first post, January 11, 2002 viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3 Ron wrote: 10 Good Reasons to RESCUE an Adult Sheepdog 10) In a Word--Housebroken. With most family members gone during the work week for 8 hours or more, housetraining a puppy and its small bladder can take awhile. Puppies need a consistent schedule with frequent opportunities to eliminate where you want them to. They can't wait for the boss to finish his meeting or the kids to come home from after school activities. An adult dog can "hold it" much more reliably for longer time periods, and usually the Rescue has him housebroken before he is adopted. 9) Intact Underwear. With a chewy puppy, you can count on at least 10 mismatched pairs of socks and a variety of unmentionables rendered to the "rag bag" before he cuts every tooth. And don't even think about shoes! Also, you can expect holes in your carpet (along with the urine stains), pages missing from books, stuffing exposed from couches, and at least one dead remote control. No matter how well you watch them, it will happen--this is a puppy's job! An adult sheepdog can usually have the run of the house without destroying it. 8) A Good Night's Sleep. Forget the alarm clocks and hot water bottles, a puppy can be very demanding at 2am and 4am and 6am. He misses his littermates, and that stuffed animal will not make a puppy pile with him. If you have children, you've been there and done that. How about a little peace and quiet? How about an adult rescue dog?? 7) Finish the Newspaper. With a puppy running amok in your house, do you think you will be able to relax when you get home from work? Do you think your kids will really feed him, clean up the messes, take him for a walk in the pouring rain every hour to get him housetrained? With an adult sheepdog, your dog will be leaning calmly against you, while your workday stress flows away and your blood pressure lowers as you pet him. 6) Easier Vet Trips. Those puppies need their series of puppy shots and fecals, then their rabies shot, then a trip to be altered, maybe an emergency trip or two if they've chewed something dangerous. Those puppy visits can add up (on top of what you paid for the dog!). Your donation to Rescue when adopting an adult pup will get you a sheepie with all shots current, already altered, heartworm negative and on preventative at the minimum. 5) What You See Is What You Get. How big will that puppy be? What kind of temperament will he have? Will he be easily trained? Will his personality be what you were hoping for? How active will he be? When adopting an adult dog from a rescue, all of those questions are easily answered. You can pick large or small; active or couch potato; goofy and/or brilliant; sweet or sassy. Rescue and its foster homes can guide you to pick the right match. (Rescues have many sheepies who became the wrong match as they got older.) 4) Unscarred Children (and Adults). When the puppy isn't teething on your possessions, he will be teething on your children and yourself. Rescue routinely gets calls from panicked parents who are sure their dog is biting the children. Since biting implies hostile intent and would be a consideration whether to accept a "turn-in", Rescue Groups ask questions and usually find out the dog is being nippy. Parents are often too emotional to see the difference; but a growing puppy is going to put everything from food to clothes to hands in their mouths, and as they get adult and bigger it definitely hurts (and will get worse, if they aren't being corrected properly.) Most adult dogs have "been there, done that, moved on.” Most rescue sheepies are fostered by volunteers experienced with the breed, and are evalutated for temperment. 3) Matchmaker Make Me a Match. Puppy love is often no more than an attachment to a look or a color. It is not much of a basis on which to make a decision that will hopefully last 15+ years. While that puppy may have been the cutest of the litter; he may grow up to be superactive (when what you wanted was a couch buddy); she may be a couch princess (when what you wanted was a tireless hiking companion); he may want to spend every waking moment in the water (while you're a landlubber); or she may want to be an only child (while you are intending to have kids or more animals). Pet mis-matches are one of the top reasons Rescue gets "turn-in" phone calls. Good rescues do extensive evaluating of both their dogs and their applicants to be sure that both dog and family will be happy with each other until death do them part. 2) Instant Companion. With an adult dog, you automatically have a buddy that can go everywhere and do everything with you NOW. There's no waiting for a puppy to grow up (and then hope he will like to do what you enjoy.) You will have been able to select the most compatible dog: one that travels well; one that loves to play with your friends' dogs; one with excellent house manners that you can take to your parents' new home with the new carpet and the new couch. You can come come home after a long day's work and spend your time on a relaxing walk, ride or swim with your new best friend (rather than cleaning up after a small puppy.) 1) Bond--Rescue Dog Bond. Dogs who have been uprooted from their happy homes or have not had the best start in life are more likely to bond very completely and deeply with their new people. Those who have lost their families through death, divorce or lifestyle change go through a terrible mourning process. But, once attached to a new loving family, they seem to want to please as much as possible to make sure they are never homeless again. Those dogs that are just learning about the good life and good people seem to bond even deeper. They know what life on the streets, life on the end of a chain (or worse) is all about, and they revel and blossom in a nurturing, loving environment. Most rescues make exceptionally affectionate and attentive pets and extremely loyal companions. Unfortunately, many folks think dogs that end up in rescue are all genetically and behaviorally inferior. But, it is not uncommon for Rescue to get very expensive dogs that have either outlived their usefulness or their novelty with impulsive owners who considered their dog a possession rather than a friend or member of the family; or simply did not really consider the time, effort and expense needed to be a dog owner. Not all breeders will accept "returns", so choices for giving up dogs can be limited to animal welfare organizations, such as Rescues, or the owners trying to place their own dogs. Good Rescues will evaluate the dog before accepting him/her (medically, behaviorally, and for breed confirmation), rehabilitate if necessary, and adopt the animal only when he/she is ready and to a home that matches and is realistic about the commitment necessary to provide the dog with the best home possible. Choosing a rescue dog over a purchased pup will not solve the pet overpopulation problem (only responsible pet owners and breeders can do that), but it does give many of them a chance they otherwise would not have. But, beyond doing a "good deed", adopting a rescue dog can be the best decision and addition to the family you ever made. Rescue a dog and get a devoted friend for life! This article was modified from one published by Labrador Retriever Rescue, Inc at http://www.lrr.org |
Here it is Val. I forgot that this was what I first posted. I still talk about this story. Tiggy's reaction was so funny. 30 November 2008 Mim wrote: Hi All, I have spent lots of time lurking on your forum and have found your info and advice very informative and helpful. And I have finally got organised and registered with your fantastic community. I have a 9 month old desexed, female sheepie (Tiggy) from a reputable breeder and I love her to bits. Yesterday when I was walking over to the pantry she gave me a tiny little nip on my butt. Didnt even hurt really just like a little pinch, but I got such a surprise I yelped. After I explained to my bemused husband why I was yelping we both fell about laughing while Tiggy sat with that look on her face of "what ARE you two going on about " I have read elsewhere that oes are a bit nippy so I thought it funny and as we were in a narrow space that she was just hurrying me along. But at the dog park today another dog owner (not an oes) freaked out when I told them and said she was being aggressive and that I should worry. We do obedience classes and she's really good although goes a bit crazy if other dogs run as she wants to chase. She's good with her food and wont eat till I give her permission and I can pat her head and take her bowl away. She mouths my hand if she's excited but doesnt bite. Is this normal sheepie behaviour that I can laugh at or should I worry and take action? Thanks in advance! |
Ron~~GREAT first post...from the master himself!!!!! Thanks for reposting.. Mim~~Hard to believe that Tiggy was 9 months old when you first posted. And the 'nipping' story is priceless!!!! So...I guess your last question was answered by your time with Tig and now Bebe....???? No worries about a nipping sheepie~~ they are just LOVE BITES!!! |
My very first post was on June 7, 2011. I had just learned about the forum at Teddy's first Sheepiepalooza. Teddy and Charm as puppies was waaaay to cute! 4 my OES wrote: Here is my video from Sheepiepalooza. Enjoy! (I wasn't sure what to use so I did both, embed and the link) My youtube channel is cparks57 if you would like to see my other videos. Cindy |
Too...too cute~~Teddy and Charm!!!! You both were the darlings of that Sheepiepalooza!!!!!! Great times!!!!! |
I love a cute puppy wrestle. What sweat hearts!!! |
I agree! Y'all were so awesome and kind and here for me when I lost Vladimir. I was a mess and you guys were all just so amazing to me. I am so grateful! And I love this forum. Oh, and the sheepie I found (via Facebook, lol)... Zuzu is here with me. I'll catch you up later... And I'll pitch in, if you're still fundraising. |
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