Farting Dog
I suspect the result is her Acana food (she's on the Puppy and Junior variety), but I can't be sure. We switched her over from Iams puppy over a 2 week period, so as of December 24th she's basically been on Acana only. Since then every evening she just has non-stop flatulence that literally makes my breath hitch. Does anyone else have any experience with this? The ingredient list is below: Chicken meal, steel-cut oats, deboned chicken, whole potato, peas, chicken fat, whole egg, deboned flounder, sun-cured alfalfa, chicken liver, herring oil, pea fiber, whole apples, whole pears, sweet potato, pumpkin, butternut squash, parsnips, carrots, spinach, cranberries, blueberries, kelp, chicory root, juniper berries, angelica root, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, lavender. Supplemented: Vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, niacin, riboflavin, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium yeast, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product. Because she has a UTI, we feed it to her with a nice big dollop of natural greek yogurt and a probiotic (acedophilis or something) and a glug of cranberry juice. For treats she basically gets exclusively dried cow or pig liver. Any ideas?! I'm ready to try switching her to Fromms, since their food also seems to be really high-quality with a similar composition, but I want to avoid switching if at all possible. Are there any tricks? Should I skip the yogurt? Feed her earlier? Add something? |
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Such a delicate subject  Poor Daisy. Where there is excess putrid flatulence, there is probably rumbling and cramping for her  You didn't mention stool issues, hopefully no problems?When does it occur? That may give you indication of dietary culprit. How long has she been on probiotic and yogurt therapy? The digestive system needs time to adjust and gas may be temporary. Or, eliminate them one by one from her diet over several days. I suppose you could do away with everything but food and slowly reintroduce as well. Good luck in treating her successfully and getting your sweet smelling girl back!! Car rides must be a joy right now  |
| I would bet dollars its the yogurt. I have had the same issue with yogurt and a couple other dairy things in my dogs. Eliminate it for a week and see what happens. Shellie |
| Did you wean her from one to the other or just a fast change? Sometimes fast change is too much. A 2 week weaning often helps prevent tummy times. Yogurt is a good call........some just can't do it. With all the veggies in her food, that might be a problem. You might want to try some Slipper Bark Elm capsules (health food store) as it coats the intestines with a mucilage and soooooths the gut lining.......more often for Big D problems but might help here. Yes, I've had Blue Cloud sheepdogs......but it was soy that was causing the problems. |
| Thank you all for your suggestions. We did the switch over really slowly (it was over 2 weeks from start to finish), and started by adding only about 5 pieces of kibble to her food. We've decided to revert completely back to Iams off Acana, and last night her...problem...was a little better. I've also stopped the liver treats completely, and we've gone back to broken up milkbones instead, just to try to keep things really easy on her tummy. I've still got her on the yogurt in her breakfast and dinner, but am using less and have cut it from lunch. She won't go near the food without it and I'm too much of a wimp for a fight, and we're down to one probiotic a day. If it doesn't resolve completely then I'm nixing the yogurt completely. And, in a really frustrating turn of events, after telling us that they did see bacteria on the slide the vet's office now says that the lab we sent the urine to in the US to get culture and sensitivity can't find any bacteria (and that lab did the uranalysis again and it came back clear too), so maybe there's NOT a UTI after all.  We've stopped her on the antibiotic, but I'm a bit irritated that we had her on it when it might not have been necessary. I think the culprit for the UTI symptoms might have actually been the Acana as well as it's relatively high in protein (32%) which can contribute to struvite crystals apparently. All in all, we are having no luck with Acana at all! So now she's back on Iams puppy, but I'm still anxious about the ingredient list and recalls, especially when she's growing so fast. I will stick with it for now, but am considering Fromm puppy, which is 27% protein, so only a tiny bit more than Iams (26% protein) and much less than Acana (32%). If I do go with them, I won't begin a change for at least another month or so. http://frommfamily.com/products/gold/do ... puppy-gold Thanks again for all the advice. |
| Sounds like you are on the right track. 32% protein does seem awfully high. If she really likes yogurt and you find it is not the problem, a teaspoon isn't going to be a problem. I made kefir for years, the guys loved it.....just different types of cultured milk bacteria. |
| Hi, I have the same problem, was just going to post a new topic when found this. And yes I mine sheepie is also in Acana food. I heard it's one of the best in the market and he after trying 3 types of food he loves this one. But every night he lets releases some gas that stink. His stools are normal, well not normal because he has this thing that poops fine and a second time a bit of mousse but the 2 weeks his pooh was fine he was eating the same Acana food. Oh no, really didn't wanted to change food again, he is just 5 months old and before switching to Acana he was on 4 different types of food. To change again will just upset his stomach. Don't understand I supposed Acana was a very good food. |
| It can be the best food in the world but if your dog is sensitive to an item in it, then there's going to be a problem. Most of my sheepies could not tolerate soy in any form, some also couldn't handle corn. Pups normally have some bowel issues from time to time as they are growing so quickly. You may have to cut back on the amount, modify exercise (good luck on that), watch how many treats he gets.......and consider kibble with the can food (?) We've all played the food game. Some of use regularly change brands......like every 6 months.....it's a balancing act. |
| Thanks for the advices SheepieBoss, I have to buy food order food next week. So I will try a different one. Could you recommend some brands? And you seem to know what your talking , in your opinion what ingredients should I look avoiding? Thanks for the help  |
| When you change foods, do it very, very slowly. Sudden shifts will cause problems. Plan to make the change over a week or so. I know dogs who can jump from one to another without problems, I have one of those steel gut dogs currently. Others have been more delicate. I know many here feed Fromms, Iams, Ultra, Merrick, Blue Buffalo. I feed Kdog either Solid Gold or Canidae no grain and some weird protein; salmon or duck or alternate among them. Sorry don't know exactly which one as I'm not usually paying attention to brand as I know exactly where it is in the store. Shame on me. Why the alternate protein? When she first came to us she was a sick dog! and had a tender tummy, massive meds, etc. The lighter protein was kinder to her system. Now that she is healthy, I'm sure she would gladly eat anything.........and does judging from what she mooches from us. I've never had a dog bark to me from the kitchen, "Come now, it is time to make dinner and I must taste EVERYTHING!. Very few things are rejected, carrots being one. If you think there's a problem, look for sensitive tummy foods. If still have problems you may have to start an elimination diet, starting with one protein and one carb and feeding that. If there's no problem, add another protein and carb and so on until you have a nice mix that mimics a kibble. I've know a few sheepies who had massive food allergies. I hope yours is not one. Doesn't sound like too bad a case, hopefully it doesn't get worse. |
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