Jumping has gone too far
The jumping went too far this afternoon when he jumped on my 3 year old neice and split her lip with his paw. There was blood everywhere. He is not an aggressive dog so I havn't thought about giving him up, but I can't have him hurting people either. I really don't know what to do. |
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| Have you tried training specifically for jumping with a prong collar? Dancer was really bad for jumping too, and it only took 2 five minute sessions, planned for when my husband was coming home from work to teach her not to jump. She doesn't jump anymore on people.... and I never had to jerk on it or anything, just a gentle tightening of it when she went to jump, two nights in a row, and done.
The thing cost 30 dollars, but it was worth it, even if I never use it again. |
| Thanks for your reply.
I was always afraid to use the prong collar because I thought that if I used it once, he'd have to have it on always. You only had to use it twice? You never have to put it on him anymore? |
| No I haven't had to use it since.... Dancer was awful for jumping on people... and now she doesn't. I think it has been about a year since I used it? I know it looks archaic, but if you go to the store, make sure you get exactly the right size for him, and try it on your arm or leg, it doesn't hurt, it's not stabbing or pinching, it's just pressure. I think to a dog it simulates the feel of a mother dog grasping the neck.
Make sure it is the right size, and ask them to show you how to use it properly, and it should be fine. I can't guarantee it will work for you, but it did for me.... |
| I've also found just holding Clyde at the shoulders until he can sniff a new person coming in has helped. He's 10 months old now and seldom ever jumps anymore except when he's super excited so if I anticipate it happening, I just put my hand on his back and make sure he stays down for a minute, then when I release him, he never jumps. I have no idea if that would work for anyone else but it seemed to work for him. |
| I also know that there is a harness you can buy that prevents the dogs from jumping. It actually makes it impossible to jump. I was going to buy that for Pepsi but for the most part he has stopped jumping.
Good Luck! Elissa |
| I also used a prong collar with Tasker for a very short period to eliminate jumping, worked great. Properly fitted they are very humane. |
| Very interesting. How do you use the prong collar for this kind of training? Put the collar and a leash on the dog when someone is coming in? Hold the leash or put it on the floor and step on it? I've been thinking about using a prong collar for "heel" training, Bailey is getting pretty strong and he tends to pull alot during walks. He'll pull until he chokes and I'm worried about him hurting his throat. |
| What we did is put on the prong collar and leash just before I knew my husband was coming home. That was when she was jumping the most. When he came in, she went to do her usual and I did not step on the leash, or jerk it or anything like that, I just gently tightened the collar and told her no jumping. She immediately sat, we praised her and after a few minutes took the collar off. We did the same routine the next day, and on the third day we didn't use the prong collar just her regular collar and leash but I didn't need it, she didn't jump. |
| Thanks! |
| I would take Tasker to the door with me on a very short leash and have him sit next to me. When the person came in and he tried to jump he could feel the collar and sat back down. I actually put the collar on my own nect to make sure it did not hurt, there was pressure but definately no pain. |
| Im soooo glad to see this post, I was just getting ready to ask also, Bogey's jumping is so out of hand. I figured we would have to break him of it since the people at the shelter would let him jump up on them. but this is ridiculous!!! Im afraid he's going to hurt someone just by jumping on them. |
| I am still struggling with jumping as well, but regarding the pulling and choking described by Bailey's mom, I had the same problem with Max, so I switched to a Sporn halter and it has drastically improved my walks with Max. He never chokes and gags anymore and that was a big concern to me as well. So it's worth trying if you haven't yet, (I did try the gentle leader but Max was like a bucking bronco for a week) good luck,
Sharon |
I just got a prong collar for Beau. He jumps on everyone!!! I hope it works.  |
| Excellent idea, i'll have to do that with Hendrix. |
| ran out and got the medieval torture device (prong collar) and it seems to have worked! ty so much |
| That's great!! I'm going to see if I can use it to settle Chumley down in the car. . . |
| The prong collar, which I think is called a 'greyhound' collar is wonderful. I used it on a female that pulled me while walking. Used it two times, solved the problem.
My neighbors German Shepherd pulled her into one of the parks shelter house wooden poles. Then continued to drag her as he tried to chase another dog. She was badly bruised and injured (had to see her doctor). When she told me what caused the injuries, I loaned her the collar. Worked on him also. |
| I think it's important to point out, and I'm sure many people know this already, that training collars should only be used on the dog when training ( I know, duh!). Leaving it on all the time confuses the use for training not to mention prong collars make some nasty mats. |
| The prong collar is a miracle worker! I as well always was against it! It just looked so MEAN! But after I suddenly had a "new dog" that walked nice with me wearing it, I am now a HUGE FAN!
Might I also add that Gucci George seems to know when he can be misbehaved! If I take him to town without the prong collar he is just unbearable! When I take out the prong collar he hangs his head a little, as if he is saying, "Oh great! Now I have to mind what she says!" As for the jumping, I really found that if we completely ignored him and took a step back and turned around, Gucci George got the idea very quickly. He hates to be ignored! Colleen and Gucci George=>to all my sheepie brothers and sisters, we might as well listen to the uprights, you get more cookies that way! |
I'm wondering if I could use it to train Genevieve not to jump over the gate?? 
She's a charmer, that girl, but I've really got to figure out a way to keep her inside the kitchen while I'm away. She jumps the gate as if it isn't even there. Fortunately, so far she hasn't caused any real trouble. My only other option is to keep her in the crate, but it just doesn't seem fair since Beau is "free" in the kitchen. Do you think if I used the prong collar on her it might work for this type of jumping too? |
Beaureguard's Mom wrote: ....... She jumps the gate as if it isn't even there. I have a baby gate up at my kitchen door also. My old gal would shove it down (don't have it screwed into the wall - won't stretch that far).
What I did was shove a chair in front of the gate. Place my black, winter robe over the back of the chair (draping it on the gate some) to block her from seeing through it. Seems to be working fine. I no longer find the gate on the floor, and her waiting at the front door when I come in. 
I really can't see how the prong collar would work since you're not there at that time she jumps. I've heard of dogs being on chains in the yard, falling off the porch and choking themselves to death. Horrible stories!!! Be careful with the collars. They do make mats, along with turning the hair gray. Good luck. |
| Without going back and reading the posts I don't think anyone is recomending using the collar unless you are standing right there and certainly NEVER as a "tie out". If the issue is jumping on people when they come to the house the collar is a useful tool. The prong collar should never be left on the dog unless you are with him, there is a risk of it catching on something. |
We had a dog that used to jump the gate while we were at work. Made for a messy home (poop ALL OVER the house, he would jump over the gate, the other dog would stay where she was supposed to be and the dog that jumped got nervous and pooped) This happened 3 times and we just installed doors to the kitchen. Another (cheaper) option is to use 2 gates...One on top of the other. Good luck 
Hugs |
| Thanks for the suggestions! Sorry I didn't make myself clearer. She actually does jump over the gate while I'm standing there...LOL. Not just when I'm out. My thought was to try it while I'm with her. I would NEVER just leave the prong collar on her.
I tried the chair thing, she just shoved them out of the way and jumped over. I thought about the second gate on top of the first one, but I finally decided the best idea was to crate her while I'm away. So, I bought a nice BIG crate a couple of days ago and now when I leave, she's in it. I think she actually likes it. She's only been with me for two weeks. And unfortunately, for this entire week I've been gone 12 hours a day. So, I really haven't had much time to work with her. I've had my SIL and my neighbor baby-sitting them and grooming them. But, it really needs to be me that works on her indoor manners. My schedule calms down some after Sunday, so we'll be able to get into a good routine and start working with her. In the meantime, it's not bad for her to be crated a little while. It's really only for a few hours in the afternoon and overnight to sleep. I guess in my sense of fairness, I didn't want to crate her while Beau was "free" in the kitchen. But, in a way, it's probably good for them each to have some alone time, too. |
Tasker's Mom wrote: Without going back and reading the posts I don't think anyone is recomending using the collar unless you are standing right there and certainly NEVER as a "tie out". If the issue is jumping on people when they come to the house the collar is a useful tool. The prong collar should never be left on the dog unless you are with him, there is a risk of it catching on something.
Sorry, I didn't mean they were. Of course, if you're there when they're jumping gates, it would be useful. I just remembered the stories I'd heard years ago of what some people thought was an innocent act, that turned out to be deadly and mentioned it. I've also read where a dog had on a collar (not the prong), dug to crawl under the fence, caught the collar on the fence prong and was strangled when it tried to bring its head back inside the hole (which it had not dug big enough.) When I mention these things its not for the so called "experienced" owners, but perhaps for someone that may not think of it until its too late. I wasn't refering to anyone's post. Sorry for any misunderstanding. |
| No, I mentioned it too, just as a safety precaution. Sometimes you just don't think about that stuff being potentially dangerous-- not to mention causing the most evil mats ever-- just ask Bentley, Jil's dog! |
| I put the prong collar on GG a couple of days ago (it was still sized for when he had a full coat, he is naked now) and turned around to get the lead from the closet, turned back to find he had the collar, prongs down in his bottom jaw! I almost had a heart attack! That was a prime example of why we must never leave them with it on! I've resized it (took a link out) so my point is to make sure that it is fitted properly as well! I initially had our obedience trainer fit it for us, since I had not ever used it before, and didn't even know how to put it on!
I'm so glad that the crate is working for you! I hope Beau doesn't tease his sis too much! Or maybe he is jealous that he doesn't have a den! LOL Well anyway, it sounds like the problem is solved! YEAH!
Colleen and Gucci George=>I watch Animal Planet on the couch while Mommy is at work! |
Beaureguard's Mom wrote: ......I tried the chair thing, she just shoved them out of the way and jumped over.........
Sorry, I failed to mention the chair was on the outside of the gate, where she couldn't push it aside.  |
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