A hairy eye question
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| I always check Dex's eyes when I put in a topknot, if he has a surprised look I loosen it to make sure he can close his eyes. Using a topknot to open their eyes more sounds a little cruel and unnecessary. |
| A picture of him trimmed would help us see how you trim...but from description it sounds ok. So not really sure why or what they wanted you to do in addition. And if you cut the hair off, how can you pull the hair back?? |
Like putting their top knot so tight they look like this...  lol |
| I'd forget about the side view .......don't clip to tunnel vision, remember they can see more to the side than we can. |
txbart wrote: I always check Dex's eyes when I put in a topknot, if he has a surprised look I loosen it to make sure he can close his eyes. Using a topknot to open their eyes more sounds a little cruel and unnecessary. Ditto. My trainer's requirement is that Benson is able to see. Whether I do that by putting in a topknot or trimming is entirely up to me. But forcing his eyes open with a tight topknot? Does she make the people with Beagles staple their ears back and tape their eyelids open?  |
| That's silly! I always loosen Eevee's topknot to make sure she can blink comfortably. I also have to make sure I don't catch her eyelashes in it! |
| Just because they have long hair doesnt mean you need to tie up the bits that you trim regular so they can see anyway, There should be no problem. think you trainer is having a laugh. Last week at dog training we did whisper commands, I tied billies ears up so he had no excuse |
| Thanks for that. You have confirmed what I thought,not needed. Yes, I do chech side view so he can see all round. I think they just like to find something to "by the way,you really need to do...." I don't have the tech to put pics on here,daughter did his baby one for me,will see if she will find time to put pic of his face on for me- I used to joke that if his tail got in the way I woud clip it over his back to his collar,maybe I should clip his ears up as well. Seriously tho thank you for your comments, I have always trimmed so have no experiance of topknots and the tightness.x |
| Leonard will fuss over his if it is too tight- it does make them look really awake. Luckily I am getting the hang of it and no longer make him look like he is shocked. Our trainer used to make constant comments about Leonard's eyes so I ended up putting a regular 'sheepie tale' (which i use a clear elastic usually) and a bright coloured mini clip so she could SEE that his hair was pulled back. There was no difference in the amount if hair pulled back but the visual of the clip stopped the comments. I think because they aren't the most common breed but are well known everybody has something to say about their big furry faces. |
| Monty may see better with long hair tied back than trimmed hair as there are no short bits to partially block his vision. I haven't noticed any OES that have small eyes that need to be pulled more open  Monty becomes really cocky and obnoxious if all his hair is tied back and he is running off leash. He chases dogs and barks and air snaps. For a lot of the walks we do not tie his hair back. He can still see as he is running around like a lightening bolt and his hair is blown out of the eyes, but interestingly when he chases dogs with his hair not tied back he does not bark and air snap. We've come to the conclusion that he is overly confident off leash with his hair tied back. At home and at agility we tie it back so he can see well. We don't trim his hair. |
MontyQs wrote: Monty becomes really cocky and obnoxious if all his hair is tied back and he is running off leash. He chases dogs and barks and air snaps. We've come to the conclusion that he is overly confident off leash with his hair tied. My mum said their first OES was like this, the first time they cut her hair in front of her eyes She was like a different dog. |
| If you shave them nose to stub, creating a greyhound, they really go nuts. The can see, they can move, great fun to watch. They also sunburn so be careful. MO loved her greyhound look, becoming a wilder and crazier girl. Jack would eat his hair when longer, something to suck on, chew on. He was better in a puppy cut at all times. With all the shrubs in their yard, I had to keep their eyes as unblocked as possible. One very close to the eye "poke" warned me the hair can be dangerous. |
| That's why we started to trim with our first pup,30 odd years ago as Shep would misjudged door openings and ran into a concrete washing line post. I am sure he can see in all directions ok-he never misses a thing. He does get mucky eyes,I wondered if the wind irritated them more without the hair there?x |
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