growling

for the first time ever, truman just growled at me.
he ws on the bed, i was trying to shoo him off.
he growled...i've never heard him growl before...right in my face.
just seconds later he tried to hump my leg (unneutered 1 year old male) so i know he was trying to be in charge.

scared the hell out of me, honestly...not that he would hurt me but that he would even try to bite me or be agressive to me.

what should i do?!!
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To be honest, I'd like to get a straight answer to the same question! Woof is the same age, and we have similar incidents...

I've found that (for once) a sharp, angry "NO!" will stop Woof from humping (it may be me but he even looks a little embarrassed, and will even "make it up to me" by snuggling at my feet!)

As to the growling / agression thing - I've been advised in equal parts to:
a) Ignore it / Turn away
b) Behave like a whimpering pup (he's supposed to realise you've been hurt)
c) Growl back (as the parent would, as if to say "behave")

I tend to use a) and (rarley) c), depending on the situation....
Wow! I would never whimper with a growling dog...that would show he had won. Growling and humping is indeed a dominance issue. That must stop immediately! You are the boss. NO! and leaving is a start, but you may also need to get a few squirt bottles and keep one hand (even on your belt) and give a blast in the face along with the NO! Just water please, no vinegar or other stuff.

NO! and then leaving him alone on the bed would indicate to him he had just won the bed.....not good.

Learn to praise rather than punish. Whenever your dog does something good, praise him. Teach the dog the difference between Bad and Good. Bad is for minor transgressions and then quickly show him the good action and praise with a simple "good."

Save the NO! for serious and immediate problems. Of course no physical violence....the squirt bottle is as aggressive as you dare get.

Discipline is a good tool. It's like a time out--the dog should be sent to a neutral corner and made to remain there.....in full view of you but without your interaction. The neutral corner should not be his kennel or crate.....that's his private cozy den. It is never used for disclipline.

Save the yelp for when the when puppy chews fingers in play. As soon as you yelp, stop the play and leave the puppy alone completely. Just as with his/her litter mates, when play gets too rough, play ends.

Wow! Have I confused you? You should invest in a few doggie training books. Try Communicating with Your Dog by Ted Baer.

sheepieboss
How old is Truman?
When Shanti was came home (10 weeks old) one night he growled at me. He had eaten something and he vomited it. He was soooo little, He was eating his vomit very hastlily I approached to clean and he growled at me. The day after I had to go to the vet. I commented him what happened ... and he said to me: You never leave him to growled at you - You are the Boss. With your forefinger smoothly hit in the snout (again -very smoothly) and dile not at the same time. After that, never had never growled to me. :lol:

Note: I don't like violence.... I don't know how to discribe the "hit" or use the term in a English sentence... it is mainly a smoothly touch with your forefinger...
Hope helps.
We had a problem with our OES (Ruby) that started when she was about six months old. She would become very protective and guarded a wide variety of objects. The most important thing we learned to do was first figure out what those situation were and try and prevent them from happening in the first place. Beyond that though, it must be established that the dog is not in charge. Growling will happen on occassion but the problem cannot be allowed to escalate. When Ruby would growl we would make her do something (sit, down, high-five, stand, etc). This usually snapped her out of it. Obedience training is a must in order to be able to diffuse the occassional outburst that the breed seems to have. It's worth the effort though, Ruby is the coolest dog around.
Buckley started growling at us after he had been with us about 4 mths. We didn't do to much about it and it progressivly got much worse. Here's what we were told to do and it has worked wonders!

When he starts to growl or do something you don't want him to do stare him down (Don't look away first!) and if he still doesn't move grab his "waddle" (that waggy area under thier chin). Grab both sides with both hands, he can't bite you in this position. Usually once you grab them like this, it gets their attention then give him a command and make him follow through. It's very important that you don't let it get worse. They HAVE to know that you are the boss, not them.

I don't know if I really explained that very well- Feel free to contact me privately if you'd like more info.

Good luck!
Cindy & the Monsters
and it worked
was:
the deal was he was getting on the bed and when i tried to get him off he growled at me. i did not whimper, by the way.
so i got off the bed and he got off, too...he does everything i do, thats why he wanted on the bed in the first place.
i said stay, loudly.
then i got back in bed. he got in, too. i got up, said stay, got back in bed.
we did this a couple of times and eventually he started coming to the bed and putting his head on the edge, and maybe one paw up and staring at me to see if i would say no. and i did. and he went to his bed and layed down.
end of trouble, no growling. yay!
I agree with those of you who said that growling is not allowed EVER. I think a couple of you are talking about un-neutered males between 1 and 2, and my advice is that if they are not going to be bred, then neuter them immediately. There are plenty of health as well as behavior problems that can be avoided.

It also sounds like some of these sheepies need to have a 'who is boss' refresher course. Along with humping, growling -- they may be challenging you by not getting off the bed/furniture, going through doors ahead of you, staring you down, etc. Back up your training and start over with the basics. The dog must earn EVERYTHING it wants by obeying a command given by you. Not a cookie, not a dinner, not a toy, not a pat on the head, not a snuggle, not a playtime is free -- the dog needs to obey you before it gets anything fun.

Every trainer I have read, or studied with, has always said "no dogs on the bed" and I've always hated that rule since I enjoy those cold mornings when all the dogs are piled on the bed. However, the master's bed is a valued "resource" as far as the dog is concerned, just like food, special toys, etc. Dogs associate bigtime status with sleeping in the master's bed, and some even take that as a sign that they are the alpha pack leader.

For any dog that is exhibiting aggressive behavior, it is not a good idea to allow them to sleep on your bed and it's important to enforce that rule. There are also some vets who feel that when a dog starts behaving in that challenging fashion, you should make sure his diet does not contain too much protein (you need to look it up, I forgot the percent, might be less than 20%).

Good luck.
will be picking out our first oes in about a week. still trying to decide male or female? i have read several notes about the males humping but the breeder we chose says hers have never done this. also about the growling? we were tending to choose a male as we have female dogs (all altered) and thought this would curb some fighting. is this behavior common to all male oes?
We have a female OES. She is about 9 weeks old and growls each time she is picked up. We have tried the "smack" on the nose but she takes that as a sign that we are playing and attempts to bite at me (play bite) or barks at me. We will be sure to try some of the ideas suggested here.
justamy wrote:
for the first time ever, truman just growled at me.
he ws on the bed, i was trying to shoo him off.
he growled...i've never heard him growl before...right in my face.
just seconds later he tried to hump my leg (unneutered 1 year old male) so i know he was trying to be in charge.

scared the hell out of me, honestly...not that he would hurt me but that he would even try to bite me or be agressive to me.

what should i do?!!


1 week ago the same happened with Shanti... :( What that it means unneutered 1 year old male? I couldn't find it out on the dictionary... :oops:
an unneutered male is one who has not been altered or as some say fixed. for females it is spay.
thank you to everyone who has replied. seems bossiness goes with boys and girls. temperament will be the deciding factor for us when we go pick out our baby.
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