Are OES Girls "Bitchy"
I get pick of litter from a beautiful litter of seven pups. I have always owned a boy and have had three of them. They have always been in a good mood and happy go lucky! I can't decide if I want a girl, though I haven't ever owned one, I have been around girl sheepies. Some seem a little moody. Also, are their heats messy? My dogs are allowed on the furniture. Opinions please. (BTW, we have one girl left, they are 5 weeks old) |
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| We have 3 girls. A mother and 2 of her daughters from different litters (7 yrs, 3 yrs, 1 yr). We have had zero issues with a pack of girls, they are all exceedingly sweet and loving. We've travelled huge distances in a small hatchback with all 3 packed in the back and no issues. Only the 1 yr old is not spayed currently (and no plans to do so), her first heat was my first experience with that. It really was barely noticeable. I don't know how much it can vary between dogs (or between heats, we've only had the 1 so far!) Our furniture is all very dark coloured, but I'd think you'd want that regardless of heat if you allow dogs on the furniture! |
| Lily's sweet, silly, cuddly, happy, bouncy and social. If lil sees an opportunity to climb in someones lap, she is there! Lily has been in heat twice before I got her spayed. She was very clean and there wasn't any change in personality. |
| We've had 5 OES girls and 1.5 boys. All the girls have been fine, loving, but also a bit independent....especially when compared to the boys. We've also had scads of other dogs: Pyrs, Newf, Siberian, Irish Wolf, Bearded Colie and the males go out of their way to please.....me, Mum. They all were true momma's dogs where as the girls were loving but not silly about it. Bitchy. Nope. Willful, often. As for heat and mess. One of the OES was a real mess. She had to wear pants and pads and when outside (without her clothes) the concrete would get stained. Others weren't bad. Most keep themselves clean. |
Kim wrote: Help me out fellow OES owners. I get pick of litter from a beautiful litter of seven pups. I have always owned a boy and have had three of them. They have always been in a good mood and happy go lucky! I can't decide if I want a girl, though I haven't ever owned one, I have been around girl sheepies. Some seem a little moody. Also, are their heats messy? My dogs are allowed on the furniture. Opinions please. (BTW, we have one girl left, they are 5 weeks old) Both depend completely on the line. Ask about dam, granddam, sisters of, etc and you should have a pretty good idea. Some bitches are hell on wheels, but generally not because they are bitches, but because they have temperament issues. (Can't get along with other bitches, for instance - completely unacceptable in this breed) I prefer bitches, by far. But they do tend to be a bit more independant than the boys, and on average about twice as smart  Both of which can make them a bit harder to train, though still fun to live with. I barely notice their seasons. Mine are obsessive about cleaning themselves. Need to wash face and butt a bit more frequently during that time, but that's about it. Some of mine become super-bitch while in season - able to leap small buildings or at least A-frames in a single leap. Absolutely jumping out of their skin focused and energetic. Great fun to train during this time. Others get a little clingy and mopey and need lots of sympathy and some cheerleading <g>. Some have no changes whatsoever. And those are variations among closely related bitches, so there is a range even with bitches who are related. But none of them ever get crabby. Kristine |
| Me? I LOVE MY BOYS!!!!!!!! They are more dependent than the ladies, but also more laid back. Oscar takes the term "velcro sheepdog" to a whole new level, as he follows me so closely that he walks on the backs of my shoes.  Not so fun in flip-flops or mules! Even though he's "velcro" he does not suffer from separation anxiety. He's my Tweetie Pie!  Laurie and Oscar |
| Bitches twice as smart? I bet they can't park very well! |
| hahaha Archie!! I definitely think they aren't the word you used... but the traits of one are there. I don't think they have mean bones in them and nothing is done to seek revenge in our home.. but we do have someone who is very bossy ...has to be in control of things/first in line ...has to tell everyone when they are out of line but only the line mommy and daddy defined. ...so she is a stickler for the rules ...much smarter than the males I meet but I don't think it's the capacity to learn more or anything ...rather imo ...the males have a different track mind. They're too busy daydreaming or wondering why you're waving your hands around or just thinking about ANYTHING else other than what the words out of my mouth mean ...to be up to speed with the females I see. I would get a girl again in a heartbeat ...........but everyone else in my family is "more sold" on the males. |
| Thanks for the replies. Though I thought more people would respond to this. I have to decide by this Wed. Come on sheepie owners! I want to hear from you. And I forgot to mention that I own the sire of the litter which earned me pick of the litter! I can't wait to get my new pup! |
| we are on our second female. our first, panda, was truely independent, smart and at times, aloof....but still a mommas girl. lola, plays dumb, has no use for independence and thinks aloof is supposed to be awoof.... according to pandas time markers....at the age of two, girls ''get'' it....before then, panda ate everything metal....then..poof...she was ''perfect''....i figure i have about another year for lola falola hoover toot toot to become perfect too.... |
| When we got Nelson, we did so because he was the calm guy out of the litter. We had a 11-1/2 yr. old female (anything but bitchy) and preferred a dog more compatible. At almost 8 yrs. old, he's always been that way. A great therapy dog and companion. Having him has been a joy. With Lyra, now only 14 weeks old, she was the wildest one out of the litter. What a pistol! She'll take on any dog regardless of sex or size. Definitely one that will require a lifetime of work but also the one with more show and/or performance potential. The girl has attitude! I agree, it really depends on the lines your pup comes from. To me, it doesn't matter if male or female, they all have their endearing qualities and their annoying ones. Don't turn down a great puppy just because you wanted one of the other sex. It's really a matter of personal preference and to me, what's most important is a dog that will fit your personality best and what activities you plan to participate in with your dog. |
| i have always had females -5 of them..to be honest my last one was a true bitch.. from day 1 i truly loved her but not sure if she ever really cared she was a daddy girl .so about 5 yrs ago i got a boy now i have 2 they are the most loving sweet sheepies i have ever owned. my dreamer might be too loving he demands hugs all the time lol i really don't think i would ever now get a female but also has to do with the breeding .. good luck |
I have a girl & she is a loon. Every place I go she is behind me. When i am away she stays with Lori but when I am back see you Lori. Lori calls her a turn coat  . Cleans is a under statement no issues with the season and very bright & steals food out of peoples pockets in the park also she wants to be the boss cannot wait till the new one arrives & that's going to be fun |
| In my adult life, I've only had one female. I prefer males. No offence but I've always said that females are called bitches for a reason. I think its just personal preference. |
Simon's Mom wrote: In my adult life, I've only had one female. I prefer males. No offence but I've always said that females are called bitches for a reason. I think its just personal preference. It is. Very much so. Though I have to say I've met more bitchy neutered males or even bitchy spayed bitches than I have bitchy (intact) bitches. Maybe when you remove the hormones they get all confused. Kristine |
Kristine is that like all females  |
| I got my BOY! Welcome Cody!! Couldn't be happier, he and Daddy are romping all of the time. |
| Congratulations! Pictures please!!! |
Parwaz wrote: Kristine is that like all females Missed this... And could be <g> Kristine |
Kim wrote: I got my BOY! Welcome Cody!! Couldn't be happier, he and Daddy are romping all of the time. Congratulations, Kim! KB |
 I couldn't remember if I can download it here, but I did add them in my photo gallery. Click on the camera to view him. |
 Cutie!!!!  |
| oh my... look at that pup! |
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got sheep wrote: Cutie!!!! Dark! Love it!!! Good thing not a bitch. Masked bitches are in a category of their own  Kristine |
| yah, the dreaded "zorro bitches" lol |
| Cody is adorable!!! Congrats! |
| What a gorgeous guy!! Know you've made your pic and I didn't weigh in earlier. We picked a female and she was hell on wheels as a puppy. She's still darned independent and bossy. Time and again I've wished we'd picked a boy! Enjoy the puppyhood and more pics, please! |
| Thanks for posting the pic. He is such a sweetie. He's already learned how to sit at 9 weeks old! I was curious when his little BEhind would start wiggling when his tail wags. It started yesterday at 9.5 weeks...too cute! He and daddy are having much fun romping. |
He's adorable! Have fun! |
Kim wrote: Thanks for posting the pic. He is such a sweetie. He's already learned how to sit at 9 weeks old! I was curious when his little BEhind would start wiggling when his tail wags. It started yesterday at 9.5 weeks...too cute! He and daddy are having much fun romping. Beware that wiggle bum, they can command you with that cute little wiggle!!!! |
| Awwww! Congratulations! Thanks for posting the question - it has helped me try to decide sex which I would choose. Well, I'm still confused, but I got to see everyone's "preferences" anyway - leaning toward a male now. Have fun with yours, he is toooo cute!! Sandy |
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