Collar Mats

I bought Monty a lovely new collar called an angel collar.

It is made of leather has a metal buckle and has two metal loops for leashes or tags. The one metal loop is by the buckle and the other metal loop is on the opposite side of the collar.

The metal loop by the buckle is always at the bottom of the neck because go the weight of the buckle, so the opposite loop is on the back of the neck which is great for leash walkng as it is really easy to clip into and stays at the top of the neck.

I keep the tags on the metal loop next to the buckle so there is no danger in clipping the leash into the ring of the tags by mistake.

The only issue is that I think the collar is causing more neck mats than his old webbing collar. I seem to be brushing out neck mts every two days.

Has anyone else seen a difference between different types of collars.
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Any collar will make mats. :(
Unless the coat is kept short, it's best to not have him wear a collar except when needing it for hooking the lead onto.
Mine only wear collars when going to class, or out to therapy dog visits, etc.
Ditto with Dawn. So much easier just not wearing a collar. If you absolutely must, then thin and loose, remove daily and brush out the area.
Oscar only wears his collar when he leaves the house. His collar is permanently attached to his leash.

No collar, no mats. :D Aren't I helpful?????

Laurie and Oscar
[quote=No collar, no mats. :D Aren't I helpful?????

Laurie and Oscar[/quote]

Ha ha! Yes you are :lol: I will take the tip of permanently keeping the leash on the collar and get in the habit of taking the collar off after our walk.

Just have to get my husband into the habit of not automatically putting the collar on. He says "they are not dressed with out there collar" :) I think he is worried we might loose them with out their collars on, but they are chipped.
MontyQs wrote:
[quote=No collar, no mats. :D Aren't I helpful?????

Laurie and Oscar


Ha ha! Yes you are :lol: I will take the tip of permanently keeping the leash on the collar and get in the habit of taking the collar off after our walk.

Just have to get my husband into the habit of not automatically putting the collar on. He says "they are not dressed with out there collar" :) I think he is worried we might loose them with out their collars on, but they are chipped.[/quote]

Tanja - I had exactly the same learning curve with Todd! It really has taken him a LONG time to get the hang of it. Of course now when he meets me in town with the dogs, he brings dogs and forgets the collars at home.... :phew: I guess we are still working stuff out. :lmt: :wink:
We too are a 'no collars at home' home. Zoey's tags are on the clasp on her lead and Caitlyn's are on a ring and ALWAYS in my pocket. I do this because we show her she is rarely not at my side so therefore her tags are always in reach if needed. When we all go for walkies or out and about, I always have Caitlyn's lead as she's more rambunctious and a little more unpredictable. This makes her a bigger handful for Jen who suffers from arthritis. Zoey is a better walking partner for her.

Vance
We do the same. The leash is permanently attached to the collar, on the hook right next to the mudroom door, so she never goes out "naked."

With a long coat, we knew Benson would have terrible matts if we kept her collar on all the time. That's exactly why she's chipped!

:wag:
My friend warned me about collar mats (she has a Chow who had to wear a cone for 3 weeks and the dog's coat is still recovering). Leonard is still young but I try to leave his collar off as much as possible. have also heard from a doggie "expert" that the jangle of tags is super distracting to some dogs and after hearing it all day they will "tune out" all sounds; including prompts from their owners. Yikes!

I keep Ru's license tags in my pocket too :) both dogs have our phone number written clearly right on their collars; prevents noise. We did have one of those tag quieting things for Ru but it kept falling off so we just took the tags off all together.

As for dogs without collars getting lost; when we first got Ru and he still very anxious he heard a loud noise when we were out walking and he slipped right out of his (well fitted) collar and ran away into the night. Given we had only had him a week and he had a terrible and transient history I was crushed and figured he was lost forever. We looked (as did many of our neighbours) for hours. When we got home he was hiding behind our fence in the back yard waiting for us, so even without a collar a dog can find their way home.... This happened again this summer when he was out for a walk with my husband and got spooked, this time he managed to yank the lead from my husband's hand and run away. He ran straight home (from over 6 km's away) and was sitting at the door when we got home. We don't walk Ru at night any more! Anyway, that's off topic. Boo for collar mats!
Our concern is if the meter man doesn't close the back gate properly and the dogs wonder out of the yard with no tags. Monty is so cute someone might keep him. :cry:
When I brush, I take the collar off...and don't put it back on.

Dh finds the collar and puts it back on. He says if the dogs get lost, their tags are on them. They are chipped but he feels better with the tags. I won't win this fight.
MontyQs wrote:
Our concern is if the meter man doesn't close the back gate properly and the dogs wonder out of the yard with no tags. Monty is so cute someone might keep him. :cry:

That is a good point... Our gate was left open once, luckily we live on a bay with little traffic and Ru is a scaredy cat who sat at the back door howling to let us know that the other dog (my brother in law's dog) was exploring the neighborhood. I am so paranoid about this that now I check the gates every morning and afternoon when I let my boys out. It is a scary thought for sure and a good reason to keep collars handy.
Simon's Mom wrote:
When I brush, I take the collar off...and don't put it back on.

Dh finds the collar and puts it back on. He says if the dogs get lost, their tags are on them. They are chipped but he feels better with the tags. I won't win this fight.


I feel the same, not that Charm would ever "get lost" but I feel safer and just brush.

who said "today my dog will get lost"~~no one ever
MontyQs wrote:
Our concern is if the meter man doesn't close the back gate properly and the dogs wonder out of the yard with no tags. Monty is so cute someone might keep him. :cry:

I have pad locks on both our gates. The meter people now read the meters at MY convenience. When I explained that I didn't trust the college kids they employ and that I'd hold them responsible for the loss of a pedigree dog, they happily agreed. I was polite and diplomatic and it worked.

Vance
I have debated locks for our gates, we have 2 gates and neither opens in the winter due to the snow. I have until Spring to think about it.
I purposely built our dog yard with NO GATES. The only exit/entry is at our house door.
Sometimes it's inconvenient, but I really love knowing that there is no way a gate might be open when I let them out to potty or play. :D
I can see both sides of the collar/on, collar/off while dogs are in the house argument. We used to leave them off in the house.
Now I have gone to wearing collars all the time. Everyone is micro-chipped, but I just feel better with them wearing tags. If, God forbid, they did get out to wander in the neighborhood, I think a neighbor would return them more quickly if they had their address and/or phone readily available. Otherwise to read a chip they would have to go to either the animal shelter or a vet to have it read. Soooo... now they are wearing collars I offer the following suggestions to those who choose to have their OES wear collars.

Buy a rolled leather collar. Get the thinnest one possible for the neck circumference you need. The leather is round and does not lie flat on the coat. They cost a little more but will last the lifetime of the dog or more. It causes less tangling. Use the smallest tags possible that you can fit your info onto. They tangle coat. Remove the collar when brushing out the neck so you can do a thorough job. Brush out the neck more frequently than other parts of the dog. When brushing the neck, spritz with a little silicone based detangling spray such as "Ice on Ice" or "The Stuff" to help prevent mats. Hope that helps.

Linda Z
auntybren wrote:

I feel the same, not that Charm would ever "get lost" but I feel safer and just brush.

who said "today my dog will get lost"~~no one ever


So I have become a convert to the collars on all the time and daily brushing of the neck area; lots and lots of lost dogs in our area lately. They aren't sure what's up* but this quote about lost dogs made me think about it, there is a higher chance of him coming home if he does get lost if he has a collar on. Many people don't check for tattoos apparently and he is not microchipped. We are also considering locks for the gates when the snow melts.

*There is a Rumor going around that people in our province are stealing dogs for baiting in dog fights, there are over a hundred missing dogs in the last month and many stories are posted on the local lost dog alert fb page. It seems they are being stolen from people's yards, the police can't do anything about it- just terrible. A collar won't protect them from these monsters I know. We have been super careful when we let them outside now and are extra watchful.
We too only have Cloud wearing his collar when out and we have a padlock on the front gate. Delivery guys etc. are happy with this and just put everything into a box on the inside of the fence.

Debs
Our girls never have a collar on unless they are going outside on leash. But we are overly-careful with our dogs, they are basically never outside in the backyard (or anywhere else outside) unsupervised.

bruuruu wrote:
*There is a Rumor going around that people in our province are stealing dogs for baiting in dog fights, there are over a hundred missing dogs in the last month and many stories are posted on the local lost dog alert fb page. It seems they are being stolen from people's yards, the police can't do anything about it- just terrible. A collar won't protect them from these monsters I know. We have been super careful when we let them outside now and are extra watchful.


:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: Honestly, if this happened to one of my girls, I would lose my f**** mind, I would find one of those damn dog fight places loaded up with guns and ammo and I would try and kill everyone there.
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