I am Furious
As I've stated before Simon is having some problems with weaves...he pops out early. Not all the time just most of the time. Its a problem we are working on. I've entered a trial, Hounds for the Holidays. Its a week and a half away. I took Simon through the weaves before class started tonight and he popped the last one. We were doing a circut during class and I explained to the instructor, Joanne, that he is popping out and if he does, I'm just going to keep going. Well, teaches me to keep my mouth SHUT. She made a big deal of it and told me I should just skip the weaves. No way to do it unless I wanted to run half the length of the building. So I took him through and he popped the last one. I kept going and made a non deal of it. After class, in front of everyone, she told me I should drop out of Hounds. She listed all the reasons why I should...none of which matter since we have a week and a half to work this problem out. She asked me if a Q was so important to me.  That to me was very low. I told her its not important AT ALL but the trial experience is. She than went on to say that she see's beginners(me) do this all the time. Letting their dogs make mistakes and then having to re-train them.This women drives me insane. What happened to building people up instead of just putting them down. I have a week and a half to boost this dogs confidence and get the weaves right each and every time. WE are going to weave pole boot camp in the back yard so I can shove this women's words right down her throat. |
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| I wish I had something helpful to suggest for Simon. However, the trainer was SO out of line to humiliate you in front of everyone Is this her norm? Good for you to persevere and get those darn weaves with Simon  Will be looking forward to the results of that trial, GOOO TEAM SIMON  |
| Boy, is she an idiot! The only one that looked foolish was her and I don't think she realized it. Keep us posted on how her words tasted to her!!!! |
Simon's Mom wrote: This women drives me insane. What happened to building people up instead of just putting them down.. Pam - request to be moved to a different class for January. I got so frustrated with the instructor in question - tell you about it privately some time, not even sure if I lasted as long as you did  - that I asked (nicely, since she's in charge of the class schedule ) to move me. That's when I instituted an "I will only take classes with Sue" rule. That said, I'm in another class with Mace Tuesday nights, and though I don't get as much out of it as I do in Sue's class with Sybil, instructor is very NICE. E-mail me. Seriously - before next Tuesday for sure as there's a possible drop-in and that can get you calmly back in the weaves. And if you need to vent call me this weekend. Been there, done that. Didn't realize you were in her class or I would have warned you. So sorry.  Kristine |
| Just keep at it and stay positive!! |
AnInnocentEvil wrote: Just keep at it and stay positive!! Yeah, keep at it with a different instructor. Then she can return to being positive. Life's too short to put up with know-it-all instructors who know nothing and you don't remain passive in a situation like this; you remove yourself and work with someone competent who understands your dog and your goals and takes you seriously. I spent a decade loving agility more than almost anything else and this woman reduced me to wanting to quit in less than 8 weeks. I took a deep breath and said to myself I'd be damned if I was going to let her take that joy away from me. I wasn't the problem. She was. Made her history. Problem solved. Some times being positive simply means removing the negatives from your life. Pam will handle it. She's tough. Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: AnInnocentEvil wrote: Just keep at it and stay positive!! Yeah, keep at it with a different instructor. Then she can return to being positive. Life's too short to put up with know-it-all instructors who know nothing and you don't remain passive in a situation like this; you remove yourself and work with someone competent who understands your dog and your goals and takes you seriously. I spent a decade loving agility more than almost anything else and this woman reduced me to wanting to quit in less than 8 weeks. I took a deep breath and said to myself I'd be damned if I was going to let her take that joy away from me. I wasn't the problem. She was. Made her history. Problem solved. Some times being positive simply means removing the negatives from your life. Pam will handle it. She's tough. Kristine I figured you already had that covered in your previous post. This was more of a cute, funny, cheer up, stay positive. Did the video not show up on your end? |
| How does this woman continue to have anyone in her classes if she trains this way? I'm so lucky to have a great trainer. She not only makes agility so fun, but she is a lot of the reason I've decided to try obedience and rally since she teaches that class also. Cindy |
4 my OES wrote: How does this woman continue to have anyone in her classes if she trains this way? I'm so lucky to have a great trainer. She not only makes agility so fun, but she is a lot of the reason I've decided to try obedience and rally since she teaches that class also. Cindy Because dog training instructors are just regular people - some styles and personalities will work for you, some will not. I'm the one who suggested to Pam that she try working with my instructor, while holding my breath, as only the confident and strong will survive HER <g> She has reduced some people to tears. She has also taken me to a whole new level as a handler - nothing you do is ever "good enough", very little of the nandy-pandy hand-holding (though she can turn it on if need be as long as she knows you're trying your hardest), and the better you are (or the faster you improve) the harder she will push you to push yourself even further. She also, once you get to know her, has an exquisite sense of humor, and I quickly learned to give as well as I get. We respect each other. As it turns out, Pam can hold her own. People who don't question (think) or who have dogs that fall into the other instructor's realm of understanding/experience do just fine with her. I found her pedantic, unimaginative, ridgid, condescending, incapable of thinking outside of the box and, frankly, not the sharpest knife in the drawer. People capable of thinking for themselves need not apply. She doesn't treat everyone like she treated Pam (or me, or others for that matter). Just the ones that don't subscribe to her narrow world view. But some will find her methods reassuring and follow her teachings religiously, whilst my instructor would probably scare the hell out of them. Most instructors are much more middle of the road. <g> But the longer you stay in the game, the more you will come to see that not all instructors are created equal. My first couple of instructors were very, very nice - I'm still good friends with one of them, the other passed away a year ago, but we were also friends. They just weren't terribly effective FOR ME as instructors. You eventually find the people who work for you. But as it turns out the (truly) wrong instructor can really ruin the game for you. And it's too much fun (or at least should be) to tolerate that. KB |
| The thing that got me most Pam, was the fact that she humiliated you in front of the class. Any instructor may or may not be making the correct judgement call about you and your dog and training techniques. But her method of delivering that message was totally uncalled for. |
| Ok, honestly I was wondering if I was going just a little over board on this...once I thought about it. I can see "I" was right. Kristine, your faith in me..  Sue is tough, but a good tough. Yes she pushes but look how far we have come since we started. She did reduce me to tears once, though it was my fault because I did not stand up for myself. Swore I wasn't going back and look where we are now  I'm a little bit tougher and even have her laughing at me at times.On a good note...Simon did all twelve weaves two out of three times today. Dh took him through once and he did all twelve. He's also going fast again. A good sign. Tomorrow will be even better! |
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