New pup arrives soon
I am new here and so am trying to get my way about this site. Took me a while to find this. Our Old English ( Our 3rd OES) died in July. We were heart broken because Murph was such a wonderful boy. We are now getting a pup. However we have NEVER had an OES pup before as we usually got Rescues and Murph was the youngest at just 18 months when we got him. He was still a pup in many ways and not full grown! He was 7 yrs old when he died suddenly from Heart cancer. We should be getting our new boy on 24th Nov he will be 12 weeks old. I am more than a little worried as we have not been able to see him in situe with mum as he is coming from a very long way a way. OES dogs are on the rare breed list and very hard to get a Kc reg pup where we are. So we have had to rely on the breeder the Kc and photos. Not ideal at all but it is hopefully going to work out ok. The pup is Kc reg, vaccinated and miccrochiped I would post a pic but I can't work out how - someone called vance on the Rainbow bridge thread put one of him in the gallery Oes |
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| How exciting for you!! The wait seems forever doesn't it??? Congratulations on your new puppy, we will be anxiously awaiting the arrival too(pictures)!!! Have you chosen a name?  |
Here he is! Vance |
| He's a cutie. Congratulations |
Vance wrote: Here he is! Vance Ohhh thanks for posting the puppy!!!!! I couldn't work it out and I didn't think you would be on this thread? How do I post a pic???? I am so worried about the little man. You know all those things that go through your head - is he healthy ? Does he have a good temperament? Will I have to be real firm with him or will he be a bidable boy? Will I find half of my soft furnishings shredded? Will he steal food from the work unit? or push the toddler over to take her biscuits? You know all the things we kind of already expect will happen but secretly hope they wont! Having had three woolly mamoths before I am more than aware of the tricks they can get up to!!!!! I remember my first OES x Wolfhound Molly - beautiful dog! She was a terror and because of her size she could easily clear your kitchen work tops! Her favourite things were eating all the butter! Drinking out of the dirty bleach filled mop bucket and stealing any food that was unattended! Including a friends entire basket of beef sausages, a massive banoffee pie that was meant for the youth group and an entire plate of donuts she managed to reach in the middle of the dinningroom table! Needless to say she was with us 12 yrs and we broke our hearts when she passed. These are things that now we look back on and laugh. Murph was a charactor too in his own way - I only got really mad at him twice. Once when he bit someone who was trying to get his paw out of the fence he had managed to trap himself in! and the other time when he shredded the chair pads from the garden furniture! So I am a bit worried about this tiny whirl wind - and what he might do to my house??? My heart!!!!! If he comes at all of course? It isn't real until they are in your arms is it? Oes |
auntybren wrote: How exciting for you!! The wait seems forever doesn't it??? Congratulations on your new puppy, we will be anxiously awaiting the arrival too(pictures)!!! Have you chosen a name? We have been thinking of names. When we got our first OES x Wolfhound the kids took one look at her and called her Molly Mop! So that stuck. She was about 4 yrs old when we got her and she was arround 15/16yrs when she died. Pollyanna came to us after that. Her given name was Dolly. - But it kind of reminded me of a certain cloned sheep! She was a beautiful thing but had massive issues. My little darling - she had been beaten so badly when she was a tiny pup they left her brain damaged and blind. She was "rescued" by a dog rescue but they just stuck her in a cage and because she was a cruelty case they could not re - home her for 2 yrs. Consequently she behaved like one of those disturbed bears you see and would constantly pace up and down. After the 2 yrs were up a lady was allowed to adopt her but the lady only had her for a few months and simply couldn't cope with her issues. Molly passed away and we heard of her and went to get her. SHe was lovely so I thought she deserved a pretty name. I chose Pollyanna because it was similar to Dolly and she wouldn;t get confussed. I liked it because of the film Pollyanna. - We used to play sheep dogs because she was blind we had to play chase the person not a ball, the person would clap to show her the right direction! I also used to play polly here and polly gone. Covering her eyes with her ears! She passed away only 3 yrs later because she had wobblers degeneration of the spine due to the beatings when she was younger - also her mental state deteriorated and she would "forget to eat" unlike a normal dog that would clear a bowl we would have to leave her bowl out all day long and eventually hand feed. The vet made the call when her spine finally gave out and she collapsed and couldn;t support the back legs. - I was so mad because she deserved much more time of a good life as over half her life she had either been beaten and tortured or in doggy jail! Then we got the Murph and his name just fitted - so I really didn;t have much of a problem. Sometimes you have to meet them to know their name don't you? We were thinking something like Baily???? Anyone suggest anything else??? But hay remember I need ot actually have him in my arms? I might go to get him and he might be all wrong!!!! Oes |
| Welcome to the forum - and congratulations! He's adorable! Benson was our first honest-to-goodness puppy (though we did have a 6-month old at one point). You'll find this forum is great for advice as he grows up. My favorite feature when I joined quickly became the "Search" link (at the top of the page).  Here's a link to the picture posting instructions: viewtopic.php?t=1119 Everyone LOVES puppy pictures, so you'll have to post lots and lots and lots! |
| I went there before and got totally confused so will have to try again or no one will see any pics of the pup! oes |
| Print down the instructions and set them by your hand. You have to have the pictures in a program that will interface here. They will go into your "file". When you want to post you have to draw it out of the file. Not the correct technical words but it helped me figure out how to do it. The instructions were needed for quite some time. Don't commit to a name before you've had the pup a few days. Then something just seems to stick once you get to know him. There have been a few rescues I wanted to call *&^%@#!! until a few days later when we smoothed things out. |
| What a cute puppy! |
| Cute pup - and welcome!! |
| Welcome! Your puppy is adorable! |
| OMG - I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited as the day is so near!!!!!! We got a phone call earlier to tell us how the wee man is doing and an update. We are travelling to get the wee fellow on Saturday morning. Bit of a long trip but I hope it will be worht it all. We will be getting him at a Kennel club dog show. The breeder will be up for the show and he is bringing mum and is showing Dad and is also bringing both of the pups he still has. So we get to see them all which is really good. Sad a bit that we can;t see them at home but it is the next best thing. Of course we will get to go round the Dog show too which will also be a good day out. It will be nice to see other folk interested in the Oes breed too. What do you all think of the tail docking? Do your Dogs still have bob tails or not? UK rules say they can't now be docked unless for medical reasons. Our lad is comming from Southern Ireland and so his tail is docked. I am not sure either way. Molly had a massive tail which was like a big windscreen wiper! She used to batter it of things and to be honest if she was sick she would end up showering poop everywhere NOT NICE! and if she got too excitable she would actually bash the tail so much she would make it sore, it was indeed a magnificent thing to behold but I don;t know if it was worth the pain? Murph never had a tail and it never seemed to bother him though I did often tell him if he didn;t behave I would steel his tail! Of course he didn't have one to take!  but it was a bit of fun. I am sooo excited about the baby I really am and so worried about it too? Why am I so worried when I have had 3 massive woolly mamoths in the house before and yet this tiny wee man scares me so much! only 2 days to go? Oes |
| The picture...I am in love. What a beautiful baby. All the things you are worried about, probably, but it won't seem so bad because you will be so in love. That beautiful pup will have you trained in no time, LOL. Read through the threads and you will realize you have all the information right at your fingertips. We are all here for any worries and the antics your baby will get into. Prepare for some sleep deprivation and remember this too shall pass. The crate is a wonderful thing and if you can, put it next to the bed or close so your baby will know you are there for them. This worked great for my last two dogs so I only had to get up a few times a night for potty instead of listening to a crying baby all night in a different room. Once they are secure, you can move it to a spot of choice. For pictures, yeah print it up so you can follow the directions. If I can do it, anyone can. It just takes some practice. Tomorrow's the BIG day, I'm excited for you!!!!!! |
| I am worried!!!!!! I do hope he is lovely and good and all the things I hope for. I really hope he doesn;t whine all night long. Still he wont be on his own as he will have the Schnouzer for company. I just hope we are doing the right thing. I must say though I have felt this way over every OES we ever broughtinto our home and everytime we've had to say goodbye it's broken my heart. I have loved every one and never regreted a single moment - but still this maybe different??????? I have never ever had a puppy before. OES |
| You won't have any more doubts after you get that little bundle of LOVE in your arms. Relax, it will work itself out. |
| I have PUPPY and he is a STUPID DOG BOT!!!!!! OES |
| He's not stupid... He's a baby who needs guidance and that's your job from here on out. Lots of praise with these little scamps goes a looooooong way - they live for it. Once he lays down for a nap, work on learning how to post photos because we want to see the little guy already! Vance |
| Wow. Puppies are not stupid. They are babies and you have to teach them EVERYTHING! They are a blank slate. It's your job to teach them right from wrong, in a positive way. You wouldn't expect a human baby to know whats up, why would you a baby dog? Good dogs are not born that way. They are trained. Take lots of photos! You'll miss this stage when it's over. |
| No you guys don't understand Murph was a stupid dog bot! We used to call him that because he was well a bit brainless ( Like Sam in the film Dogs and cats!) because he was scared of his own shadow - if the food bowl moved too fast he would yelp and hide! If it thundered he would huide under his flanky and snuggle up to his daddy! ( Murph was a coward!) This little guy is soooooo funny. He barked at himself in the reflection from a door!( He thought it was another puppy!) He is adorably stupid - like Murph!!!!! He is stupid in a GOOD way!!!!! I don't expect him the know anything yet! Thats daft. But honestly he is a stupid dog bot and that is fantastic!!!!! Oes |
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AnInnocentEvil wrote: Wow. Puppies are not stupid. They are babies and you have to teach them EVERYTHING! They are a blank slate. It's your job to teach them right from wrong, in a positive way. You wouldn't expect a human baby to know whats up, why would you a baby dog? Good dogs are not born that way. They are trained. Take lots of photos! You'll miss this stage when it's over. Vance wrote: He's not stupid... He's a baby who needs guidance and that's your job from here on out. Lots of praise with these little scamps goes a looooooong way - they live for it. Once he lays down for a nap, work on learning how to post photos because we want to see the little guy already! Vance I think you guys think I was being a bit bad calling puppy a Stupid dog bot. - I can see now that it is a country culture thing going on and it is easy to forget we live in different parts of the world. Here we had a long running car add on TV with a Stupid Dog bot on it and that is where we got "Stupid dog bot" from. It is a charactor on a tv add. They are still on you tube - so you can see for yourself - there is a stupid dog bot and Murph was like that in charactor - I think Baily is a bit daft too! Which is a GOOD THING!! So don;t be getting all up tight about a different sence of humor! http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=HcS ... =endscreen |
| How exciting you finally have your baby boy. How did he go last night? Hope he settled for you. |
| He was ok - he peed a bit on the floor because he was scared and didn;t know what to do. On the way home in the car he barked to get out to the toilet but we couldn;t stop because we were on the motorway and by the time we got to the services he had already peed. I felt bad because he sooo tried to get us to stop but we couldn;t on the motorway. So I was scared he wouldn;t let me know again he wanted to peee! THe next time he just wimpered and then did it so I missed it twice drat! Then when we got in last night he was overwhelmed because of Gizmo and the cat and all else going on so he had a few accidents. But mainly he was fine and lay on my lap infront of the fire for a good longtime without peeing at all! We got up about 4.30 am to get a cuppa and Gizmo and Baily were snuggled up together but Baily had used the other sleeping mat to pee on - so were not really "getting there at the moment! " However this morning Gizmo and Baily went to the yard and I showed Baily Gizmo peed and he did the same so I gave him lots of praise for that. I just hope he remembers to tell me he wants to go out for a pee and I didn;t screw it up already when we were in the car because I couldn;t stop! He wont eat at the moment but I think it is because he is frightened of all the changes. He ate a bit out of our hands but nothing like he is suposed to. He didn;t make any noise in the night and he didn;t shred anything either which is a really good thing. but his little puppy heart was going really fast last night it quite scared me a lot. Oes |
| New puppy has been here now for a few days and all is going well I am still working on the picture posting so please be patient with me I will get it eventually. I am really happy with the pup he is soooo wonderfull and very well behaved. Everything went really well and to plan and so far everything was great. His mum was best in Ireland and his dad got best in breed this last weekend so hopefully he is from a good bloodline. Oes - he is lovely!!!!!! |
| Welcome from Long Island to your new adorable puppy! We got our puppy, Bode, at 12 weeks old. He had to fly to us and we got him without physically meeting him. We did a "video" visit lol. And it all turned out wonderful. My only complaint was exhaustion!! Its like having a little baby in the house. |
| My post is above listed as "guest"...I guess I wasnt signed in when I wrote this.... Also....this site is amazing...so much wonderful information for you to read .... Best of Luck |
Oesdog wrote: I think you guys think I was being a bit bad calling puppy a Stupid dog bot. - I can see now that it is a country culture thing going on and it is easy to forget we live in different parts of the world. Here we had a long running car add on TV with a Stupid Dog bot on it and that is where we got "Stupid dog bot" from. It is a charactor on a tv add. They are still on you tube - so you can see for yourself - there is a stupid dog bot and Murph was like that in charactor - I think Baily is a bit daft too! Which is a GOOD THING!! So don;t be getting all up tight about a different sence of humor! http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=HcS ... =endscreen I work in the care giving field and specifically work with adults with developmental delays. The words stupid, daft, idiot, dumb etc are hurtful words, even when used as a joke. I can't tell you how many times I have had a client in public and someone has jokingly used one of those words (or worse). Even if not directed at them, the look on their faces is absolutely heart breaking. I don't even use them with my special hound. He isn't the smartest dog in the world, has epilepsy, it takes him 6mo-1yr to learn anything new but what he lacks in smarts, he makes up for in the sweet, loving department. I realize its a joke but it doesn't make it any less of a put down. Take pics of your adorable new pup! |
| Actually I find it offensive that you are attacking me !!!!! You don't know my situation and assume because you work with the disabled you know everything - I am the mother of two disabled boys!!!!! One who is blind, epileptic and very MENTALLY HANDICAPPED AND SPASTIC!!!! Yes I choose to use those words I am not PC at all. I believe in the right to take those words back and use them correctly, because those words are my words to use in a correct way to describe MY CHILDREN!!!! And if my dog is daft ora stupid dog bot I WILL USE THAT to describe my dog too!, even my 25yr old twins act daft and stupid at times I can tell you that NO MATTER what I called my kids it made no difference to the damage to their brains. MY SON IS STILL IN NAPPIES AT 25yrs of age and playes with baby bricks on the floor. My other son is BRAIN INJURED AND SOCIALLY VULNERABLE to the point that he is easily taken advantage of - NEVER ASSUME YOU KNOW EVERYTHING about disabled just because you work a few hours with them - NEVER EVER ATTACK ME ON THIS SUBJECT AGAIN!!!! This is a good site and I DO NOT NEED THAT FROM THE LIKES OF YOU. - I DEAL WITH DISABILITY EVERYDAY 24/7 I have not had over night rest - bite care in 15 yrs - I have a husband who is nearly crippled and has had two heart surgeries one only a few weeks back !!!! DONT EVER SAY YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE DISABLED UNTIL YOU GIVE BIRTH TO ONE AND CARE FOR THEM FOR LIFE !!!! I HAVE A STUPID DOG BOT AND I AM PROUD OF HIM!!!!! Take your PC and go learn something before you attack others who obviously know more about disability and care than you will ever know! Thank GOD you don't - You offend me and I deserve an appology for that. I have reported your post. OES |
Oesdog wrote: New puppy has been here now for a few days and all is going well I am still working on the picture posting so please be patient with me I will get it eventually. I am really happy with the pup he is soooo wonderful and very well behaved. Everything went really well and to plan and so far everything was great. His mum was best in Ireland and his dad got best in breed this last weekend so hopefully he is from a good bloodline. Oes - he is lovely!!!!!! I am in love with your little fella - he looks divine. May I ask what show you were at at the weekend? As I can probably piece together Bailey's pedigree and I think I may know his dad, if I am on the right lines.Bloodlines do play an important part in a dogs temperament, however so do manners and how a person trains their dogs. I see so many untrained dogs, that it makes me sad as its not the dogs fault its their owners for not putting in the time and patience to guide them. I hope you got a puppy pack which will hopefully help you with the general things - feeding, grooming etc. As with all puppies patience is a huge thing - it sounds as if he is communicating well with you. I always teach our puppies the command wee-wees (which works well unless its the morning time and I am saying the command its registered in my brain and I want to go!). Will you be showing him, although if he is docked you will not be able to show him at shows where the public pay to enter, so for example Crufts. I am looking forward to seeing your fella grow and develop, so photos are a must! Please do yell if you need any advice as we all have experience and have probably gone grey with some of the antics our darlings have done... |
Oesdog wrote: Actually I find it offensive that you are attacking me !!!!! You don't know my situation and assume because you work with the disabled you know everything - I am the mother of two disabled boys!!!!! One who is blind, epileptic and very MENTALLY HANDICAPPED AND SPASTIC!!!! Yes I choose to use those words I am not PC at all. I believe in the right to take those words back and use them correctly, because those words are my words to use in a correct way to describe MY CHILDREN!!!! And if my dog is daft ora stupid dog bot I WILL USE THAT to describe my dog too!, even my 25yr old twins act daft and stupid at times I can tell you that NO MATTER what I called my kids it made no difference to the damage to their brains. MY SON IS STILL IN NAPPIES AT 25yrs of age and playes with baby bricks on the floor. My other son is BRAIN INJURED AND SOCIALLY VULNERABLE to the point that he is easily taken advantage of - NEVER ASSUME YOU KNOW EVERYTHING about disabled just because you work a few hours with them - NEVER EVER ATTACK ME ON THIS SUBJECT AGAIN!!!! This is a good site and I DO NOT NEED THAT FROM THE LIKES OF YOU. - I DEAL WITH DISABILITY EVERYDAY 24/7 I have not had over night rest - bite care in 15 yrs - I have a husband who is nearly crippled and has had two heart surgeries one only a few weeks back !!!! DONT EVER SAY YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE DISABLED UNTIL YOU GIVE BIRTH TO ONE AND CARE FOR THEM FOR LIFE !!!! I HAVE A STUPID DOG BOT AND I AM PROUD OF HIM!!!!! Take your PC and go learn something before you attack others who obviously know more about disability and care than you will ever know! Thank GOD you don't - You offend me and I deserve an appology for that. I have reported your post. OES Where was I attacking you or said that you don't know anything? I absolutely will not apologize. There is nothing to apologize for. I've been doing this for many years, not just with one type of developmental delay and people all over the spectrum. Worked many sleepless nights, many triple shifts. I choose to devote my time,energy and career to this specific kind of care giving. God forbid the day that you are unable to take care of your children. PC people/advocates similar to me, will be ones assisting them. My fiance and I have talked about adopting a special needs child in the future. After we get married of course. (A little old fashioned, marriage before children) Your right, I do not know your children, your family or the specific needs of them. I can't know everyone everywhere. Your children are lucky to have you. More often than not dd clients don't have families or don't have families involved. Their staff become their families. |
| It has changed me so drastically. I do this not because I get paid. I continue to do this because I got to know every single person individually. Their struggles, life, dislikes and likes. They all have taught me so much and bring so much joy to the world and everyone around them. They are not a burden, they are a blessing. Some day I will adopt a special needs child because I have so much more to give. |
| What you are writting shows your age and level of understanding of care. If you become a "full time" care giver you will begin to see a lot more for yourself. You have attacked me and in the statement above you have insinuated that those I care for are nothing but a burden - Being a "part time care giver " you get time off and "down time" and you can "walk away" but parents cannot do that. When You have a child of your own disabled or otherwise you will grow as a person and you will begin understanding a lot more than clearly you are able to at the moment. You are living in a little pink bubble right now but - come back in 25yrs time when your still up at 2 am scraping the poo off your adult childs backside as he is nipping your skin and biting you in the head. After you do that for years without a break day in day out then you will understand disability. NO care workers ARE NOT AND NEVER WILL BE FAMILY! That is an insult to parents! YOU will never take the place of parents no matter how many "shifts" you notch up. You are dedicated to your work - but that is what it is work! You are NOT a substitute parent and YOU are NOT family to these folk. You leave them and go home, eventually you will move house and move work place - you are not family you are a paid help. You will realise that no matter what fancy pc name you tag on to folk it never changes what is wrong with them. There are a lot of folk like you who run rough-shod over others believing that if you put a fancy tag onto people all will be well and fixed! Well that doesn't happen in the real world Learning disabled is STILL mentally handicapped and Cerebral palsy still causes spasticity - and Disability is still a burdon to someone as someone has to carry the weight of care giving. There will always be someone some place who will steal words and use them as a put down. There will always be Do-gooders who assume they know what families of the disabled actually feel. There will always be folk who get upset when folk with disability have a sence of humor and can laugh at themselves. And there will always be folk like you. You seem to be out for a fight - for some reason. That is not where I am at. This thread was about a puppy and you have made it about something else entirely. It is nearly midnight here and I am up again in 2 hours - to wipe poo of my sons backside, turn my husband so he doesn't get bed sores and then I will sit up with my son till about 4/5 am because he has night fits. Maybe I might get another hour if I am lucky. So I am about to turn in for the night. I don't have a "fresh nursing assistant to take over the night shift while I go to bed!" - You know little bits about a lot of different issues. My advice to you is DO not adopt a handicapped child. - Take time to have a relationship get married and have some kids of your own first. You have NO idea right now of longterm disability care. You are seeing things with rose tinted glasses - go have a life and enjoy it. Leave your work at work! Take your dog to the park and have a "normal life." Oes |
| There is no fight or rose tinted glasses here. I do realize parenting has no breaks. People deal with things different ways. You seem to deal with things with humor. I deal with a lot of things by being super overly positive and over thinking things. It could have been a fine conversation. I wasn't attacking you, what you go through, how you live or your beliefs. The only thing you know about me is I am on this forum and I am a caregiver. I do know what its like to care for someone 24/7. The only thing I really share on this forum is that I love what I do (with out being too specific), I love my dogs and my fiance. Your pup is adorable. |
| Well now that vented pent up emotions! Moving swiftly on. Bailey has been here over 2 weeks now and I am watching him curled up in a ball with Gizmo. I am soooo delighted that all apears to be going well right now. He is deffinately settled down and very much already part of the family. Gizmo just loves having a playmate about the place and is no longer showing signs of depression. Such a good choice and I am so glad we have Bailey. Oes |
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