Bentley & Bloody Urine

A cople weeks ago I posted that I had Bentley in the Vet ER with bright red urine. They treated him with an antibiotic for a UTI. I usually let my sheepies out to go potty in the back yard prior to walking them so I really do not notice the color of their urine. I tried to make note of Bentleys though and after 7 days he still had red urine. Finally after the antibiotics ran their corse it seemed to look better. Or so I thought. I was gone this weekend and my husband says he thought it looked fine. Well I got a container and taped it to a yard stick and took him out in the yard to collect his urine and I wish I could figure out how to post a picture because it looked like black coffee.. Went immediately to the vet. They have never seen anything like it in a dog under 2. They did a prostate exam, x-ray for stones, ultrasound, cathed him to get a sterile sample that looked terrible. The x-ray did not show stones but it did seem that the prostate was enlarged. They gave me another antibiotic to give him until the culture comes back. I am so worried. Any advice from my lovely Sheepie friends??

I tried to upload a picture I took of the urine just because it was so unusual. Well it's in the photo gallery somewhere and I can't figure out how to put it here. I guess if you click on my camera at the bottom of the post you will see it.
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Looks like coffee! My vet, with her 40 years experience would pack us off to a specialist. Maybe there are none in your area, but I'd be inquiring.
I have no ideas, except a specialist or vet school. And lots of positive thoughts for you guys.
Did they do bloodwork? They really should be, given this strange symptom. Urine that colour can be a sign of some severe concerns, especially involving the kidneys and liver. It may be nothing though, may even be caused by the antibiotics depending on which one although that is not common.
That was my question too... about whether they ran blood work to verify
everything else is normal. Hoping the culture will quickly provide you with
a cause and course of treatment. If not, I'd get to specialist. Be watchful,
make sure he continues to pass urine, that he doesn't become obstructed.

:ghug:
When the doc took the urine via cath the urine came out in the syringe looking very pussy and full of junk, leading her to believe that it is a very bad infection. The urine had lots of crystal too. She gave me a different antibiotic although the one she wanted to give me could not be given to an animal under the age of 2. They did an ultrasound, and X-ray (no stones) and she decided to wait on the blood work until the culture came back. I think she was being conservative. I am really worried except he isn't acting any different. Playing, eating drinking. No sign of urgency or anything. I can't believe how terrible the urine looked! I've spoken to his breeder who has been very helpful although she is puzzled and is a naturalist when it comes to feeding and caring for her dogs. Breeds wonderful sheepies. I am just sick with worry.
7 Reasons Why There May Be Blood in Your Dog’s Urine and What You Should Do About It

by Jeff Grill

If you notice that there is blood in your dog’s urine, there is no need to panic. Blood in dog urine is a very common problem with a relatively simple solution. Here are 7 possible reasons why your dog may be urinating blood.

1. Blood in dog’s urine is most commonly caused by urinary tract infections. Bacteria like E. Coli cause infections that lead to inflammation, frequent urination, and sometimes fever. If you notice these symptoms, you need to take action immediately.

2. Blood in dog urine can also be caused by crystals or stones in your dog’s urinary tract. These stones scrape the urethra and cause bleeding. You need to get them removed or dissolved either through homeopathy or treatment at the vet.

3. Blood in dog’s urine can be found if your dog has swallowed some kind of poison like rat poisoning. You need to take your dog to the vet immediately if you suspect that he has swallowed something toxic.

4. If your dog has had an injury such as from a car accident, he may have urine in his blood. You would probably know if he suffered a bad enough injury that it caused him to bleed internally but either way you need to get him checked out.

5. Tumors, both cancerous and non-cancerous, can lead to urinating blood. Your vet will have to run tests and find out whether the tumor is malignant or not. Treatment options will depend on your dog’s age and health condition.

6. If your dog was bitten by a tick, that could also be the cause of his urinating blood. A tick bite can cause an infection called babesiosis, which destroys red blood cells. If you notice blood in dog urine and you suspect that a tick bite is the cause, timely treatment is essential.

7. Blood in dog’s urine could also be caused by an infection of the prostate. Other signs of a prostate infection include a swollen penis and testicles.

Blood in dog urine is nothing to go crazy over but you do need to make sure to get it treated quickly.
In the other less common cases, where there is chronic bloody urine in dogs or bloody discharge from the urethra, without signs of urinary tract straining, urgency or frequency, than those pets should have complete evaluation, including not only urine analysis/culture, but also full blood panels to screen for diseases that could be involved with bleeding or clotting disorders such as autoimmune diseases of the platelets, genetic clotting abnormalities, tick borne diseases, etc. With such a systematic approach to dogs with bloody urine as part of the historical complaint, most cases can be adequately diagnosed and controlled with time and patience.

ok lisa, gotta lay my heady down now, hope this helped relive some anxiety. :sidestep:
holy moly, relieve anxiety, not relive. sorry 8)

:wag:
Thank you. The x-ray they did would show 3 of 5 types of stones and it was negative. I am so worried about my big love bug. Keeping a close eye on him!!
I'm hoping things will be fine *fingers crossed*
:hearts: Got everything crossed for Bentley and you that it isn't serious :hearts:
I think it's a good sign that Bentley is still acting like himself.

Thinking good thoughts for Bentley. Please keep us posted.

Laurie and Oscar
Ditto to what laurie said, also thinking of you both yes do please keep us all up to date with what is happening :ghug:
I wonder if it could be a fistula (I think)... an interconnection to the intestine.
Hummm...... I can mention that to the vet. He is so sweet, happy and playful. I wouldn't really know he had a problem. Will let you know when I get the culture back with the drug differential.
The way to rule than in/out would be if his urine smells like feces or does he have gas from his penis when he urinates?
Humm.... I didn't sniff it when I collected it, and didn't notice the gas from his penis.... Will check those things tomorrow.
Feces should be identified in the culture if it's present. We cultured Panda so many times that first 1+ year she was here... she arrived at about 10 1/2 months of age. She had one UTI after another, crystals and she frequently peed in the house (one of the reasons she was rehomed 3 times). In January 2007, she was on one antibiotic said to be effective for the bacteria identified but while on it (we cultured again half way through treatment) she developed yet another, more difficult to treat bacteria- Enterococcus. It's a bacteria that is normally found in the intestinal tract. We had enough... we had them repeat testing (ultrasound and a contrast study) and when they still couldn't identify a problem, we told them to go ahead with exploratory surgery. Turned out she had a patent urachus... an embryonic tube from the bladder through the umbilical cord that failed to seal itself off.

It's so hard waiting for test results. Hoping all will be well soon. :hearts:
Any news on Bentley?
Waiting on a call from the doctor. When he peed this morning (when the urine is the most concentrated) it looked YELLOW!! So that made me very happy !! Will keep all of you posted. Thank you so very much for being here for me with my worries over my sweet boy.
Yay for yellow! :D
Great that today was yellow! Sounds like maybe it was a really bad infection and the antibiotics are taking care of it! Fingers crossed!
Fingers crossed. Hugs to you and Bentley.
Lisa Frankie and Mattie
Would you believe that the culture that was taken from a sterile sample came back negative??? What the heck? His urine looks better upon observation today and for the first time in months he is eating his food completely when given to him, not just nippbling. I had a long talk with a vet (not my vet) on the phone tonight. She said to continue the 7 day course of antibiotic and follow up with my vet on Monday. I am so confused, ultrasound and xray showed no sign of stones although there were many crystals in the original black urine that I took a picture of. I wonder if he had a prostate infection? My vet sad it look enlarged. Getting those dingleberries taken off as soon as I get the go ahead from my vet...
Turns out the vet believes he had a really bad prostate infection. 2 more weeks of antibiotics. Then is's neuter time!!
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