Debarking - Update
Don't hate me for what I have done  ... Most of you know I had been debating on whether or not to debark Pepsi & Peanut (Toy Poodle). Harley doesn't bark unless there is a reason.
Pepsi has been absolutely nuts with the barking lately. He freaks out if anyone is in the pool and just stands pool side and barks as loud as he can. Then if my son is on the floor he barks at him. It is non-stop barking here between Pepsi and Peanut. Peanut, I believe has some brain damage from his Seizures. He just yaps at every little noise he hears and if Pepsi is barking he'll bark too...just because and vice versa Peanut has been driving me batty... between the barking...then after he has a seizure he attacks Harley, my German Shepherd. Now he just attacks Harley all the time. Every night he starts barking and will rev up and attack Harley hanging off of his neck chewing on it. When this happens for some reason Pepsi feels he has to protect Peanut and he will come over and start jumping on Harley and barking. I was warned that the procedure doesn't always work. It might only lower the volume of the dogs barks a little...like 50%. It usually works better for smaller dogs. So even if we can reduce the barking noise in half I will be happy. I swear not only do I have a constant headache but I think I am loosing my hearing. To protect my hearing and of course the rest of my family... Also to keep the neighbors happy we decided to do it. We have gotten quite a few complaints about Pepsi & Peanut. So before animal control or the Police came knocking on the door we decided this was the best decision. We love our dogs too much to get rid of them because neighbors make complaints. Trust me the debarking was much cheaper than a fine would be. Also much cheaper than a barking collars. (Which I didn't want because I want them to bark when something is going on to alert me... I didn't want to discourage barking all together ) The dogs will still make noise...which is good and they will be able to alert us when they think something is going on. Well I dropped them off tonight at my sister in law who debarks all her dogs... ( She loves dogs, but hates barking dogs ) (She's a breeder ) The procedure is supposed t take about 5 minutes. The dogs will be home tomorrow evening and I will update then... I was told that there might be a real risk with doing this with Peanut because of his seizures. So please everyone cross your fingers for him. Most of you know I was going to give Peanut to my Grandma, but she decided not to take him. 
Elissa |
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| Elissa I sympathy with you and respect your decision. I had the same problem with my former collie; I was too scared of the risk of debarking so after the police were out 3 times and threatened to issue a summons I was able to find a good home for him in the country with 5 acres of fenced yard, an older couple who just love him, and a husky to play with. I'll say a pray so all goes well. |
sending prayers and good thoughts your way for your babies!!!!!! Im sure everything wil be just fin  |
| Elissa, I know this was a hard decision for you. I'll say a prayer for you all. |
| Some decisions are really tough to make, I for one would never judge your decision. You have to do what is best for your family and your critters. NO ONE would doubt the love you have for either. Good Luck ! |
Thanks for the support 
Elissa |
| I hope the procedure works. I can't judge your decision, in fact, I fully understand it. If it's a choice of loosing your dogs or doing the proceduure, is there any question?
I've met dogs where the procedure didn't work.....I pray you won't be one of them. Please keep us informed. sheepieboss |
| Elissa, good luck with the procedures. Im sure everything will be okay!! I had a friend who had 2 labs that wouldnt stop barking. The neighbors omplained, they got fined 2x's, then had them debarked. They still "bark", but now it is a lot quieter. They will be fine..paws are crossed |
| Thanks SheepieBoss & Darcy
Just to clarify: My Sister in Law's Vet is doing the procedure. Not my Sister in Law. She gets a big discount with this Vet because she's a breeder and she uses him for all her veterinary needs. Also the Vet is in the Los Angeles area.. Pretty far from here, but they were bringing some other dogs there today. They left at 6 am this morning so I dropped them off with her last night. I missed them so much last night. It is so weird without them here. Harley is very weirded out. I think he's enjoying the quiet time. I just got a call from my Niece. The Vet wanted some info on the dogs before he did the procedure so I guess they are probably having it done as I write this. I will write more when I hear Elissa |
| Hi there!!
I have two Shelties who bark all the time and I am considering the debarking procedure as well. I have tried just about everything else and I am not sure what else I can do. I think they are lonely for us when we are gone at work and school but I have to work. I don't know what other options I could try for problem barking when I am not home. Any great ideas? Has anyone else had this done? My mom had a Sheltie who she rescued who had already been debarked. She thought it was cruel and unusual but she now has another one whose bark just hurts my ears. My female has the same piercing bark. Any great ideas? Sandy |
| It is a minor thing.
My dogs still bark but are much quieter and not as ear piercing |
regnells wrote: .........I don't know what other options I could try for problem barking when I am not home.
Are you sure they bark all the time you're gone? My neighbors, whom I questioned all the time and begged to let me know if they were barking or bothering them in any way, at any time, informed me they (7 OES) only cried -"howled" for a few minutes when I left and were then quiet until I came home. Then we had a barking ceremony until I could get to them to let them out. 
I had told the neighbor to yell at them when they were outside if the dogs barked at them. She did, and they shut up faster for her than for me! Point is, unless you're already certain that thats whats happening, be sure to ask first. Problem may just be when you're home. Don't mean anything bad by that, just dogs will be dogs, especially when mom and dads home. |
| Elissa,
Glad everything went well. As for Barking, I've been told that any herding dog if left for long periods will become a barker. The one thing I didn't try before finding a new home for my Collie, was the services of a behaviorist. At the time I didn't know such a person existed. That might be an option other than debarking. |
| AS most of you know I have a collie(Tanyathenurse im not getting logged in for some reason)I was laughing at someone who posted about having a collie that bark ALL the time,and gave him to a nice farm.I have had 2collies in my life and both bark like theres something mentally wrong w/ them Jagger(my collie now)was rescued from a puppy mill,so maybe he is can shy of a 6pack!!LOL!! I use muzzles on them,and Jagger puts his head down as i walk towards him w/ it.I give him a chance to shut up before the muzzle goes on,but most of the time he test me,and so on goes the muzzle.I keep it on for about 5mins. take it off,and for the rest of the day he is quiet.Then its the next day,so you get my point.I have never been a beleaver in d-barking a dog,HOWEVER if the barking is so bad that the animal control comes out and or the police,Im pretty sure id think LONG and HARD about the proceedure.Its alot of work to continuley go out and warn the dog several times then put the muzzle on.So Elissa I think you did the right thing for you and your family.im so glad they are doing awesome since it was done.Now maybe everyone can say a pray for JAgger that h learns to be quiet one day!!LOL!! Oh and BTW,,collies are the most vocal dogs out there!!So beware before you adpopted one.They are soooooooooooo smart and beautiful,but between the barking and nipping(as puppies)they are alot of work w/ training. |
| Thanks for the reply, Tanya, you know where I'm coming from. I've too had collies all my life, but only the last one was a nuisance barker; however the other ones always had company at home during the day, so that may have made a difference; however of the 4 collies I owned, the last one was the wildest in temperament. Barney and Maggie are my first attempts with sheepdogs and also the first time I owned more than one dog and the first time I experienced two dogs determining who would be the alpha. It took me a while to figure out they weren't trying to kill each other. Now I'm finding its more fun watching them. |
| Hey, stumbled across this site while searching online for vets that debark within the Los Angeles area. I have a little chihuahua who loves to bark. In order to keep the peace with our neighbors, I have purchased a bark collar which emits a shock whenever he barks. He hates it and I hate it. I have read a thousand posts where people say debarking is cruel and horrible, but at this point, with all the time my little guy wears his collar, I think the collar is the cruelty. He weighs just 8 pounds and the smallest bark collar weighs almost 1 pound.
I have searched endlessly for almost a year trying to find a vet in the los angeles area that will do debarkings but have had no luck so far. Would it be possible to get the name and number for the vet that did Pepsi and Peanut? Please! You're not only helping me, you're helping Pipsqueak. Thank you! (Please send me a PM through the forum software: http://forum.oes.org/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=2304 Thanks!) |
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Is the shock collar for tiny dogs? I'd be worried since they are usually designed for dogs OVER 20lbs. Anyway, you can PM Pepsi's Mommy yourself. She has many posts on this board or find her name on this thread and click on PM OR email. Good luck |
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| I have the same problem. Although my shelties have pretty good manners and are obedient, the barking doesn't stop. I have one that is pretty neurotic and barks at EVERYTHING. When she was a pup, we were traveling and two semi's hit their airbrakes at the same time. She was never the same. I could probably tolerate the larger sheltie's bark but the other 3 are very shrill. I'm trying to get more info now. The last thing I want to do is hurt my babies.
4Shelties  |
| It is a very quick procedure done through the mouth. The whole thing takes about 5 minutes. My dogs acted like nothing happened, besides not spending the day with me.
It definitely got rid of the shrilliness of the bark. . |
| Just to add an update. I had kept in contact with Thundermonkey and she was VERY happy with the results. |
| I have thought of this for Flannigan. He barks at ant thing. Now he has Darcy reacting to his barking. She would be so much calmer. Cinde does noy hear well and when Flannigan starts she gets going too. I wounder if this would be good for Flannigan. DOES IT AFFECT THIER PERSONALITY? |
| The bark will still be easily heard and not change the amount your dog did it. Some people think the bark is actually more annoying even with the volume cut down a few notches. It is a dangerous procedure, and MOST of the vets that I know in Central TX and OK will not do it. I've heard this is commonly the case. There is a reason why.............. |
Pepsi's Mommy wrote: Just to add an update. I had kept in contact with Thundermonkey and she was VERY happy with the results. ...and yet Thundermonkey doesn't bother to come back here and update us herself.
Harumph. |
OES Mommy wrote: DOES IT AFFECT THIER PERSONALITY?
Not at all. Pepsi still has a big bark, but before it was just insanely loud. He was definitely twice as loud as my German Shepherd was. He still barks just as much , just quieter now.  |
Ron wrote: Pepsi's Mommy wrote: Just to add an update. I had kept in contact with Thundermonkey and she was VERY happy with the results. ...and yet Thundermonkey doesn't bother to come back here and update us herself.Harumph. This was a 6/11 update: Quote: So...did the debarking on Saturday..and you were so smart to have
someone else take your dog in...I cried like a baby! Pipsqueak is doing well...not totally silenced but at at least 50% volume. He still makes his cute grunty noises and his howl sounds like he's got a cold but it is an improvement. Not quite as quiet as I had hoped but I don't want to put him through the procedure again...so its still on with the shock collar...espercially until his throat heals ( I don't want him barking and building up scar tissue and getting louder!) Thank you again for all the help! --Thirtysix Monsters and Minion #1 I will ask her to come back and give a further update. I know she was happy that he still make his squeaky noises as that was a major concern for her. I hope she was happy with the results. It does take at least a month to find out what the real results were. I did recommend the surgery to someone else in another thread about the debarking. I do know she was happy. |
| There are actually two types of debarking...the first and most common is just cutting the vocal chords. It takes just a few minutes and is not expensive. The problem is that it doesn't cut out the barking noise, it just lessens the volume. The second type is when they actuall make an incision in the dogs throat and actually remove part of the vocal chord. This is much more expensive but works. When the dog barks, it sounds like a whisper. I had to make the decision to do this 15 years ago when I was having problems with my Yorkie and they didn't make bark collars small enough for small dogs. Now I'm faced with the same problem again with another Yorkie I just got in December. She barks non-stop when we're not home. I just spent $100 on a bark collar (they now have them for small dogs) but it only works when the prongs are directly on the vocal chords. The problem is that when the dog shakes her head, the prongs move and then no longer work. I'm now faced with getting her debarked, but don't know where to go here in Los Angeles. |
| The Vet I used was:
La Bounty, Robert D DVM - Tully & La Bounty Vet Clinic Address: 11966 Ventura Blvd, Studio City, CA 91604 Phone: (818) 762-1491 |
| I'll check them out.... |
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