Puppy coat transition?
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| Sprocket is now 10 months old and has only a few grey hairs. His brother of the same age is nearly all grey. Sprocket's fur is wooly fur and thick,Dougal's is fine fly away hair and thin. It's amazing ow littermates are so different with their fur.x |
Charm began to blow her puppy coat at eleven months. It happened all at once, tuffs of hair everywhere and her first heat cycle. What a fun time  |
Every sheepie is different. Lily was totally grey by 5 months!  Enjoy the puppy coat while it lasts!!!!! |
| Bond is 10 months and well on his way to being transitioned. I'm still getting the last of it out from under his coat. It's so funny to have a light gray dog...and when I line groom I get the previously unseen black hair in gobs in my pin brush. Talk about mats just waiting to happen. Right now if I get down there one or 2 times/week, it's under control. Chewie on the other hand kept his puppy coat FOREVER! The last bit was on the middle of his back, over his loin area. He lost it at 2 yrs and 7 months old. It was unreal.  None of his 7 littermates were that extreme.And these 2 are uncle and nephew.  |
got sheep wrote: Bond is 10 months and well on his way to being transitioned. I'm still getting the last of it out from under his coat. It's so funny to have a light gray dog...and when I line groom I get the previously unseen black hair in gobs in my pin brush. Talk about mats just waiting to happen. Right now if I get down there one or 2 times/week, it's under control. Chewie on the other hand kept his puppy coat FOREVER! The last bit was on the middle of his back, over his loin area. He lost it at 2 yrs and 7 months old. It was unreal. None of his 7 littermates were that extreme.And these 2 are uncle and nephew. Yeah, Bond does look very gray in all the pictures, I can't tell which one is Bond and which one is Chewie anymore! |
| Zoey greyed at one year and seemingly overnight. Her puppy coat dropped early as fast too. Caity greyed VERY early. She started at about five months very slowly and was nearly done at about five months. She had a lot of brown tips where Zoey never showed any brown. As for Caity's puppy coat; she's 15 months now and almost all the fine hair is gone except around her ears, neck and pits - so those are our matting spots now. Vance |
Vance wrote: Zoey greyed at one year and seemingly overnight. Her puppy coat dropped early as fast too. Caity greyed VERY early. She started at about five months very slowly and was nearly done at about five months. She had a lot of brown tips where Zoey never showed any brown. As for Caity's puppy coat; she's 15 months now and almost all the fine hair is gone except around her ears, neck and pits - so those are our matting spots now. Vance The only place Eevee is matting really is behind her ears a little and by her back leg on her belly. She started to grey so early, and then it just kinda stopped. |
I wonder if turning grey early is a female thing? My male stayed black a long time. Not that pitch black but a lighter shade of black for almost a year and even now, at 6 years old, he is much darker than my female. She turned grey quickly - like 6 or 8 months. Both related and from same breeder. I guess females just mature quicker - just like their human kind!  |
| Ramsey is 7 months and has been turning grey since around 4 months maybe. He's not fully grey at all yet, but his front legs are getting lighter and lighter, and his undercoat is not in yet, but he's definitely getting to be a grey boy. Still very easy to brush, for now. Here he is this morning.  |
| Kennys legs are a little gray but he's still very dark for 14 months. He may never go gray hahah |
| It's not gender related. It is most likely genetic. And you can have different coats/maturity rates in the same litter. Ask poor Dawn who though Chewie's coat would never mature Bond, on the other hand, grayed early, as early as one sister, and a little earlier than the other. In my relatively limited experience (can't say I've played super close attention) coats that were slow to mature didn't typically turn into the greatest quality coats as adults. Often softer. But maybe there are line differences there. Kristine |
Chewie at 11 months old - still all black : And here he was at 14 months. Still pretty black. I was the camp nurse, and he came along with to help settle the homesick (and in this boy's case - ADHD) kids.   |
| i can see grey under lolas black...also her black on the top of her back is starting to look like it has been crimped.....im cutting her tomorrow...so i guess we'll see how grey she really is .... |
There all different some can transition early others are late bloomers. Over the years I have had both ends of the spectrum, some really early loosing the pupper fluff and greying up, one bitch I had years ago was nearly 3 and then she went light grey.  This is a link of the same sheepie from 4 months to 4 years. The coat changes, you have another two from the puppy stage, the what they call the junior coat then the fully matured coat. http://www.oes.org/page2/10404~Coat_Tra ... s_Old.html Here is a good example, litter brother and sister, sis is grey, brother is still carrying a lot of pupper coat, there about 5 months old in this photo. So even from the same litter that can vary too as to when transitions happen!!.   |
| Sam has been showing grey streaks popping up down the top of his back/spine area. His coloring resembles salt and pepper mix of the black and grey. His hair is starting to look like his mom's. Oh the matts and knots, driving me nuts. I do a good job smoothing our what I can and the next day newer matts. Must be that darn transition from pup hair to adult hair? |
I noticed Leonards first grey patch yesterday when we were walking. It is on his back leg and it is pretty small and the hair there is short. It seems to have appeared almost over night as I had brushed him day before and didn't really notice it. He is only 3 and a half months old and turning grey already!! My baby sheepie is growing up!  Booked him in for his first spa day the week after his last shots (late September). The training/grooming/daycare place by our house does a "positive puppy intro to grooming" for $25.. You drop your dog off in the morning before work, they bath him, blow dry him and brush him out and then he spends the day at doggy day care playing with other dogs his age and doing socialization stuff. Figure if he is going grey already I should get him used to having lots of people handle and groom him. Although I hear it is tough to find a groomer who does a good job with OESdogs and doesn't make them look like a poodle when they groom them. I will likely end up doing most of the grooming myself. Also, just how scary are the mats during coat transition? I have heard mixed reviews. My mum said she had to brush our sheepie down to the skin daily when she was changing from puppy coat to grown up coat and she STILL got mats. |
| Well, it looks like I got what I asked for, coat transition appears to be in full swing! Complete with matting. I brushed her for an hour and a half, and got most of it out, I probably missed a few spots, but I was in a hurry. I'll be brushing again tomorrow! bruuruu- ask around at the groomers to see if any of them have experience with OES. Mine does and she does a really great job. I do most of the grooming myself, too, but it's nice to let the pros give her a really good bath and brushing! |
| And on top of that, now she has fleas. The stuff from walmart didn't keep them away, I guess. |
snazzierella wrote: And on top of that, now she has fleas. The stuff from walmart didn't keep them away, I guess. Oh no!  |
got sheep wrote: Oh no! We got some pet armor today, hopefully it works better than the cheap stuff! |
| Boo for fleas! My sister's dog had them and she said they are a pain to get rid of. I have my boys on something that protects against heart-worm, fleas, sarcoptic mange, ear mites, and ticks and is just an oil that you put on the back of their necks once a month. It's safe for puppies and nursing dogs too. So far I've found that it works really well. You get it through the vet; I think it's called revolution. We have so much of that stuff here right now that the vet highly recommended this medicine (apparently fleas were common among dogs who were visiting the dog park and they have seen 15 heartworm cases and 3 mange cases in our small vets office in the last couple months... scary). But I digress. I have a puppy coat issue that I was wondering about... On the back leg where Leonard has his first patch of grey above that area it looks like somebody drunk took scissors and chopped off his fur in patches. (Nobody actually did this, that's just what it looks like) From far away it looks like mats close to the skin but I comb that area twice a day now. It's right where he sits down but his coat has never done this before. There is a tiny bit of grey close to the skin so I think there is more grey growing here. Is this puppy coat transition? It is only happening where he is black. Is there something that can prevent this pseudo matting? It gets tangled easy and looks like nobody loves him. I really hope the rest of him won't look like this when he is turning grey!  p.s. As for his little patch of grey I was very happy with it, somebody told me the grey would be a lot coarser, which it is. But I have a wire haired dog and I was worried it was going to feel like that. Not that I don't love my very cuddly wire haired dog, it's just nice to have a soft doggy too. He will still be very soft in comparison to my wire haired griffon mix; the grey is more wooly than wiry. |
| Hmm.. Eevee has the big gray spot on her back which is a lot shorter than the rest of her fur. The places where she is actually matting, I can't see that they're matting, I have to feel for them. |
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