Tails

I have been noticing that the pictures on the forum are of OES without tails by the look of it. Sprocket has a tail-he is our first one to have one. We hadn't realised when looking for a new puppy that tail docking had been banned for a couple of years. We thought "won't be the same with a tail" but we love it. Is a bit of a pain if he sits down and wags his tails in a puddle then wollops you or the furniture with it. A whole new area of cleaning. He is a good boy and lets me brush it.x :wag: :tea:
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I love Lily's tail, its so bushy and pretty! :hearts: :hearts: :wag: :wag:
I love Harry's tail, he's not a full sheepdog. Not hairy either, I just love playing with it, especially at night when he has it tucked away. Still like my sheepdog dogs as "bobtails" though, love the rumba butt that develops.
Docking ban for you in the UK came in from Memory 2007, Australia 2004. USA, Canada still can dock.

My first sheepies with tails too and I love it. :wink: Only downside is an extra appendage to groom :roll: Oh and coffee tables, ya gotta watch ya wine, coffee etc for that sweep of the tail as it can clear everything in one foul swoop. Now only if I could somehow tie a duster to the end of the tail :lmt: and while swooshing the tail around dusting can be done at the same time 8) :lol: :lol:

Even showing, now tail training as well for that waggy thing too :roll: :lol:

Stay down hairy thing :lol: :lol:

I had an OES-mix with a glorious tail... didn't know she was part OES until shortly before she passed. Loved the white tip. She would clear a coffee table with a single sweep and beat you with the thing when she was happy. Something I noticed early on when they don't have tails is that there's one less appendage to accidentally step on when they're lying around you in the kitchen. I love them both ways. :hearts:
Yes,we have the tread on the tail problem. It is still,you go to step over and it wags so you try to miss it,fall over and end up with a big wet nose in your ear and a full face wash as if to say "that's just were I wanted you mum" Have found as Sprox has grown into a "big boy" that he is much more protective of the tail end and if mucky rear end it takes 2 of us to sort,one holding him tween knees with firm grip on waggy bit and the other with the bucket and cloth! Do love it tho.x
When we found a breeder first question i asked was will the puppy have a tail. I wouldnt of had one without a tail. as much as their wigglebums are cute, they need a tail to balance and help other dogs read their body language. Unless your in an old fashioned country that still pays taxes on dogs working, i personally dont like the thought of a tail being chopped off for no reason. Dogs were born with tails for a reason.
So you're saying a docked OES does not have balance? 8)



The above is an almost ten year old dual (breed) champion bitch, btw, performing the dog walk as it should be performed, at a full-strided run.

There's a lot more to balance than something sticking off the end of the dog. ;-)

Kristine
I only know a few OES without tails, and many without. They seem to do just
fine with balance and with other dogs ability to read them. Not really great
arguments IMHO. But I think they are great with or without. But I am a bit partial because
it is our standard here.
I asked this question with our breeders & they said they work well with or without. As we have one with at tail I could not say but I do know some people abroad who show cut the tendons where the tail is. How can you pick up a dog by the tail & the dog don't feel a thing. That is wrong
Parwaz wrote:
As we have one with at tail I could not say but I do know some people abroad who show cut the tendons where the tail is. How can you pick up a dog by the tail & the dog don't feel a thing. That is wrong


Cutting tendons (which I could never agree with) would do nothing to change sensation - that would involve severing the nerves, not a tendon. Tendons are connective tissue.
Tails - keep on top of the grooming the underside can matt easily

Handy for sweeping the yard!

Great breeze on a warm day.

Fantastic I am happy signal.

Yet another fun toy to play with.

As for other dogs reading them let's face it most dogs have not got a clue how to read a Sheepie, generally they are over whelmed/confused by the big cloud with legs. (the tail is for humans)

Somewhere else for stuff to stick to!
I have dicovered a tail is a great tool for putting a fluff finish to new painted surface. After a different walk across a field footpath yesterday they are also great for the collecting of any sticking type weed!.x
got sheep wrote:
Parwaz wrote:
As we have one with at tail I could not say but I do know some people abroad who show cut the tendons where the tail is. How can you pick up a dog by the tail & the dog don't feel a thing. That is wrong


Cutting tendons (which I could never agree with) would do nothing to change sensation - that would involve severing the nerves, not a tendon. Tendons are connective tissue.


I thought I was wrong was not too sure how they did this & that's what people do to win shows :( . As I have banged on in the past about tails I can see the point not having them in a OESD. Hygiene is one point as its much easier keeping the back clean not having a tail also grooming so there are good points & bad ones as well. Most people I have spoke with in the UK they would rather have no tail . So if it does not affect the dog in anyway i.e health issues I don't think it matters as there are bigger issues out there with dogs than tails, which they should of addressed first but they went for the easy & cheap option also to keep these animal right nuts at bay
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