How do I get her to lay down!?!?!

We've got sit. She sits great. As soon as I try to get Eevee to lay down, she stands up. I'm trying to teach her the same way I've taught every dog I've ever owned, by taking the treat and having her follow it to the ground, the same way they did it at obedience class. She stands up every time! They got her to lay down once at class, but they had to push down on her (which I have heard here several times, we should not do). So how do I get her to lay down with out pushing her?
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Put the treat under your legs in some fashion (play with your positioning) until she has to at least DUCK down to try to get it (Reward her for the bending at first - may need to start by rewarding any downward motion on her part) I have one puppy that cottoned on like nobody's business and one, not so much. The not so much is in her own right quite dominant (you wouldn't guess it at first ;-) )Not that I put a whole lot of weight on those old dominance theories - it is very fluid within a pack, actually. BUT...for some dogs there seems to be a more innate resistance to down than others. They'll get it. It just generally has to be on their terms and it has to have been made worth their while to the point where it now takes on a different connotation and they think they are actually working YOU :roll: :lol: :lol:

And some are just a little, well, slow, frankly, and you have to spell it out for them ;-)

They all get it eventually. Make sure to keep it a game and not make it a contest of wills and you'll probably get a happier, faster, more reliable down.

Kristine
I think she's just slow :roll:
I tried what you said, it didn't work. She just kept snatching up the treat. So then I had the idea, that if I sat my hand on her back, maybe she wouldn't stand. And it worked! I didn't have to push or anything, just my hand sitting on her back was enough to make her not try to stand. After doing it that way for a bit, she got the idea without the hand on her back and now knows how to lay down just like Bailey does! I'm so proud of Eevee! :D
This is what I did - not saying it's right, but it worked FAST! Once Caitlyn was sitting, I'd give her the verbal command DOWN at the very same time I'd lightly pull down on the clasp of her lead, at her collar. That downward pulling motion made her drop. After doing this several times and rewarding with treats, she had it down in a day. I switched to using hand motions as soon as I felt she did in fact get it. That too took less time then I though it would. She's really good on the verbal command and ok on the hand signals.

Vance
snazzierella wrote:
I think she's just slow :roll:
I tried what you said, it didn't work. She just kept snatching up the treat. So then I had the idea, that if I sat my hand on her back, maybe she wouldn't stand. And it worked! I didn't have to push or anything, just my hand sitting on her back was enough to make her not try to stand. After doing it that way for a bit, she got the idea without the hand on her back and now knows how to lay down just like Bailey does! I'm so proud of Eevee! :D


Well done! Whatever works.

As for the treat snatching, should it come up again, hold the treat in a closed hand and she can't snatch it ;-) Their sense of smell is excellent - she'll know it's there and you can deliver the treat by simply opening your hand, giving you a lot of control over the timing.

Kristine
Mad Dog wrote:
snazzierella wrote:
I think she's just slow :roll:
I tried what you said, it didn't work. She just kept snatching up the treat. So then I had the idea, that if I sat my hand on her back, maybe she wouldn't stand. And it worked! I didn't have to push or anything, just my hand sitting on her back was enough to make her not try to stand. After doing it that way for a bit, she got the idea without the hand on her back and now knows how to lay down just like Bailey does! I'm so proud of Eevee! :D


Well done! Whatever works.

As for the treat snatching, should it come up again, hold the treat in a closed hand and she can't snatch it ;-) Their sense of smell is excellent - she'll know it's there and you can deliver the treat by simply opening your hand, giving you a lot of control over the timing.

Kristine


Remember when I said I think she's slow? Lol. If I show her I have a treat, then close my hand, she starts sniffing all over the floor because she thinks I dropped it. :roll: It works with Bailey, but it doesn't work with her. I know she's smart, because she learned sit so fast, but she's like a teenager, she has the brains but doesn't use them!
snazzierella wrote:
Remember when I said I think she's slow? Lol. If I show her I have a treat, then close my hand, she starts sniffing all over the floor because she thinks I dropped it. :roll: It works with Bailey, but it doesn't work with her. I know she's smart, because she learned sit so fast, but she's like a teenager, she has the brains but doesn't use them!


Well, now that you mention it...you just described Becky <sigh> :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kristine
she just doesn't want to lay down, until she decides to....sounds as if she knows now though.
Summer learns tricks really quickly. Me and son took her for a walk today, when we went past the church she stopped and sat down next to the wall. Hubby often sits on the wall for a breather and Summer decided we ought to. Mind you she does get a treat for sitting still. :wag:
Sprocket will easy lay down for a treat.! If I try the pull the front down bit the back end is straight up from the sit! We are persevering with the odd "down" thrown in during daily life-he sit well but down? no way!!x
I know that when I've trained my dogs to lay down they have to move their bum over so that their legs aren't under them but to the side. Makes it much harder for them to pop up from the down position. Starting, you have to be patient and the first bit you use your hand to push their bum over. Eventually, they just automatically go to that position when they are told "down". If they keep their feet under them you have to wait until that bum falls. Just an idea because they are more relaxed that way and less apt to jump back up.
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