Pitbull Saves Owner from Freight Train
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| Nice story because today an small child was mauled to death in the southern part of the state by the grandparent's pit bull. |
| I can't say I don't cringe a little bit when I hear that someone has a pitbull, but that is a really great story. They aren't all bad, and it's not their fault when they are, they just have owners that aren't training them correctly. Which reminds me, my nephew Aaron's dad has a new girlfriend (who is pregnant and now lives there) who has a pitbull puppy. He got a husky puppy last year when Aaron and his mom were still living there and as soon as they moved out, that poor husky was out tied to the porch every day. ): It makes me so sad, she's a beautiful dog and she doesn't get the attention she deserves. I'm nervous about the pitbull puppy though, it's probably not going to get very good care either and Aaron stays there every other weekend. I'm pretty worried about him possibly getting bit. Jacob was bit by two dogs when he was a kid, it took a while for him to not be scared of our sweet little Bailey who wouldn't hurt anyone. I don't want Aaron and Olivia to be scared of dogs like Jacob was. |
| There are many fine pitties, but when they go bad, they are deadly. In the case here of the elderly man killed by a pittie last week. The son (adult) wanted to keep the dog  . Could you honestly keep and love a dog that mauled your father to death? So maybe it is a case of brain damaged humans. |
| Please don't take this wrong, and I'm glad to see these replies, however my original post was to give this pittie a moment to shine. I wish we could all be so lucky to have such a devoted friend. |
| As I said, there are some many fine pitties........... |
You can find 'nasty' in any breed. It is wrong to target a this specific breed even though pits are pretty much the only breed you hear about. Several years ago, St Bernards were #1 with insurance companies for dog bites. And when I was taking my sheepies to grooming salons, a couple were quite surprised how GOOD, HAPPY and WELL Behaved they were.Most were nasty and biters.I was shocked! The only complaint was they wiggled their bums too much and wanted to kiss  I'm glad there was a positive story about a pit for a change. |
| One of my favorite rescues I fostered and rehomed was a wonderful pittie - they absolutely can be great and obviously many breeds have a tendency to bite/attack. However, nobody gets an arm ripped off or mauled to death by a marauding pack of cocker spaniels. It's the sheer strength and grab of a pit's jaws that make them so dangerous, and they are a very unstable breed known to go from perfect to deadly in one blink. That's not "targeting" a specific breed. That's knowing what you're dealing with. |
| Like I stated, it was good to read something POSITIVE about the breed. That was the point. |
| It is a great story. |
| oh wow thanks for sharing! I logged on to share the same story and was very pleased to see it already on here!!!! Thank you! |
rdf wrote: One of my favorite rescues I fostered and rehomed was a wonderful pittie - they absolutely can be great and obviously many breeds have a tendency to bite/attack. However, nobody gets an arm ripped off or mauled to death by a marauding pack of cocker spaniels. It's the sheer strength and grab of a pit's jaws that make them so dangerous, and they are a very unstable breed known to go from perfect to deadly in one blink. That's not "targeting" a specific breed. That's knowing what you're dealing with. Actually, it's not. There is no all consuming "pittie" breed. I don't know what it will take to get the general public to understand that. Nor do they have super canine jaw strength. That's sheer myth. Sybil used to grab onto lower tree branches and swing back and forth on them when she was younger for sport. Could she do some serious damage if she for some reason put her mind to it? You bet. But is her jaw strength any different from any other large dog/breed out there, including the bully breeds? I doubt it. Dogs are dogs and in any genetic make-up you're going to find some that are "off", including our breed, which, yes, has also killed at least one human, and another clearly OES mix killed a child. But that doesn't mean the breed itself is inherently dangerous, as we all know. And in this case we're not even talking about a breed for pete's sake. The closest to fitting the "name' is the American Pittbull Terrier, recognized by the UKC, but not by the AKC, though they aren't all that different phenotypically as best I can tell from American Staffordshire Terriers, which are recognized by the AKC, along with Staffie bulls (smaller, adorable) Are some of them dog aggressive? Yes, they can be. Are they naturally human aggressive? Hell, no. To the contrary. These are all breeds that are known for being especially good with children. Go figure, eh? I was horrified one day watching hysterical news coverage of two obvious heinz 57s with a lot of lab (!!) and lord knows what else that were characterized as "pittbulls" on the loose for the dramatic value. They were using the incident to push for a ban pitbulls in that city, playing on peoples' fears. Fortunately thanks to the visuals real dog people responded and called in to the TV station in droves and the station was forced to retract their version of the story and apologize on air. Are their 'bad' bullies within the breeds, and irresponsible owners? Yup. Same as any other breed. But no other breed, not even the rotties etc (any more) get the kind of horrible press these dogs routinely do. And, frankly, a lot of the problems dogs are just undetermined mixes. There's an OES mix in MI that came through rescue as a pup that could pass as a mix of some bully breed, even though Dad is some working breed, I forget which now, and mom was definitely purebred OES. If she ever "snapped", what "breed" do you think is going to get the blame? Maybe I find this this all so incomprehensible because I compete against an assortment of bully breeds and mixes in agility pretty regularly and they are NOT the dogs I worry about relative to my own dogs and certainly not in regards to my own safely, rather it's the border collies that would like to take a chunk out of my dogs. Difference is in both cases that people actually socialize and train these dogs so even the crabby ones are under control, because one serious altercation and a dog, any dog, can be banned from competing for life. So, yes, I probably see the better side of these breeds (and most breeds for that matter). And a different class of owner for sure. Whereas the general public is fed a steady diet of all of the horror stories, real and imagined. Loved the story. Nice to see them presented in a positive light now and then, the way I get to see them all the time. kristine |
 YAHHHHHHHH Kristine!! You hit the nail on the head!!!  :clappu |
| Wonderful story! Umlimited love! When I meet new dogs and there owners I always look more on the owner of the dog than what kind of breed it is, to figure out wether we should pass as quickly as possible or say hello......  |
| SO much stigma, but it is the owners who matter most. I admit, a couple of months ago, I was near home at Tunney's Pasture, the usual spot I bring the girls, I had all three girls, Gracie on leash, the other two off. I saw this big rough, muscle-bound guy who didn't seem particularly friendly walking over with a generic "pittie" off-leash, the dog seemed normal enough, but the combination of the dog/owner made me a bit nervous, mainly because of baby Gracie who was really small back then. The dog came over and I was worried about Gracie pissing him off as puppy's are wont to do. But it all went fine. |
Mad Dog wrote: rdf wrote: One of my favorite rescues I fostered and rehomed was a wonderful pittie - they absolutely can be great and obviously many breeds have a tendency to bite/attack. However, nobody gets an arm ripped off or mauled to death by a marauding pack of cocker spaniels. It's the sheer strength and grab of a pit's jaws that make them so dangerous, and they are a very unstable breed known to go from perfect to deadly in one blink. That's not "targeting" a specific breed. That's knowing what you're dealing with. Actually, it's not. There is no all consuming "pittie" breed. I don't know what it will take to get the general public to understand that. Nor do they have super canine jaw strength. That's sheer myth. Sybil used to grab onto lower tree branches and swing back and forth on them when she was younger for sport. Could she do some serious damage if she for some reason put her mind to it? You bet. But is her jaw strength any different from any other large dog/breed out there, including the bully breeds? I doubt it. Two things. I am fully aware there is no all consuming pittie breed. I don't think any more should be read into that than it's just a generalization and I think the general public knows that for the most part as well. Second, there are scientific facts supporting the jaw strength of different bully breeds being stronger than average large dogs. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/can ... -realities Quote: In more recent research (published in 2009 in the Journal of Anatomy), Dr. Ellis and her team were able to show that the size of the animal and the shape of its jaw predicted bite strength. The larger the dog and the dog's head, and the wider the jaw, the higher the bite force turned out to be. The dog breed with the largest head and widest mouth is the Mastiff, so it is perhaps not surprising that it has been recently measured as having a bite strength of 552 pounds-just shy of the bite force that the lion has. This force exceeds that of all breeds measured to date. And again I say, I have seen some of the most loving, wonderful "pitties" or "bullys" ever and don't personally have a problem with them. But it definitely is a matter of knowing what you're dealing with. |
 The hero Pit Bull Lilly is getting her exercise: I hope she can cope with all she is going through right now.  |
| I wish we could just enjoy the story about a hero dog. Why does that always happen when there are positive stories about this breed? Lets not forget the other flip of the coin, the young boy who chose to take his own life when his much loved, family pet, bully breed dog was forcefully taken from his home and euthanized due to BSL. Lets relish this story in memory of that young boy and all those who love their dogs, regardless of the breed. Marianne |
| American Staffordshire Terriers are a lovely breed, and yes breeding can undo what a dogs genetics need to be (for lack of a better word) and the myth about their jaws locking is un true and a GSD has a more powerful bite..and OMG I have one!!!! My atticus is all black and more folks cross the road when they see me walking him Fine with me but he is a love. My concern is if they ban this breed (and not the idiot owners) one of my fav breeds may be next. This was a great story and I am glad it was shared I saw it on facebook and it made me smile . I am always up for a good dog story Thanks for posting |
| A semi-local (an hour away) rescue has a pitbull that was dumped in the middle of a town. The ACO picked him up and searched for help - the dog was a "bait dog" and used to train fighting dogs. The %^&*( owner broke a hip and both legs. The rescue got him on Monday and he had surgery Wednesday (four fractures). Though not the 6 Million Dollar Man, the surgery was more than most rescues can handle. Over half the money has been collected (thanks to the vet who agreed to do the surgery first and accept payment as it could be raised). Though I'm not a huge fan of pitbulls (there are several breeds that I don't care for all that much), I donated. People are the problem. |
| Thank you for allowing Lilly some positive attention; she deserves it. I used to work in the pet industry. As you can imagine, testing bit force on toys was a common quality check. True, pitt bulls do NOT have the greatest bite force. I'll have to dig up some of the research studies. |
| Back to the hero story, there are some details missing?? From the article: Quote: Last week in Shirley, Mass., David's mother, Christine, Lily's owner, fell on railroad tracks as a freight train was barreling toward her. Lily reacted quickly. "Lily was either pushing or pulling her, trying to get her off the tracks. The conductor said there wasn't enough time and at one point Lily ran around to the front and took the hit of the train for my mother," said Lanteigne. I guess Lily succeeded in getting her off the tracks? Unless you're superman, "taking the hit" from a freight train is not really going to change much. Regardless, pitties are dogs, and all dogs tends towards a loyalty and nobleness of character that people can only hope to aspire to.  |
| David, I also don't understand some of the details. If the dog got the woman off the tracks, why would she go back and get on the tracks? If she wasn't successful at getting the woman off of the tracks, that would explain why she laid between the train & the woman. BUT, the train must've been BARELY moving for neither of them to be killed. Still a great story and it makes me appreciate dogs that much more. |
CamVal1 wrote: David, I also don't understand some of the details. If the dog got the woman off the tracks, why would she go back and get on the tracks? If she wasn't successful at getting the woman off of the tracks, that would explain why she laid between the train & the woman. BUT, the train must've been BARELY moving for neither of them to be killed. Still a great story and it makes me appreciate dogs that much more. I asked the same questions. It said one place that the dog didn't succeeded to pull her off the tracks and got between the woman and the train. Maybe the train was able to stop right in front of the woman, but not where the dog stood? Poor dog, it is fascinating story. |
| http://news.yahoo.com/video/oddnews-227 ... 8520.html# |
| Beautiful! Thanks for posting it. Lily is a beautiful girl inside and out. Those eyes are really a window to the soul! |
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