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The ONLY thing that works for me is the "CannyCollar" Like a halti but as the dog pulls it tightens around the nose stops them pulling. Its worked wonders for me. My arm used to hurt so bad, but know im able to walk him without pain. It cost £20 in UK not sure how much in US. Pet stores should sell them, and will help you fit it properly. Bloo is a size 5. |
I just might try that! It's $29.95 over here, so it's not ridiculously expensive or anything. Does it keep him from jumping on people at all? Just wondering because Bailey wants to jump all over everyone when she meets them. |
Bloo lunges at people to to say hello... If you gently tug the lead back bloo stays down. Gives more control. It will take a while to get used to it, but its the best thing ive bought for a long time Also when bloo has it on less people come near as they think its some kind of muzzle. Its good because people ask now before ust touching him. Good luck, keep us posted |
I have recently started with the prong collar. Dahlia is 15 months old and I was kicking myself that I didn't start sooner with it. If you do a search on the threads here for Prong Collar, you will find the topic. There was a lot of great advice and other experienced sheepie owners on here have used it in their dogs training. I am just not sure if 15 weeks is too young for that type of collar or if that would be acceptable..... She doesn't pull anymore! |
To train the behavior, one of the best ways is to stop all forward progress when she pulls. The second she gives, then start forward again. It may take you a really long time to get somewhere initially.....really long!...but it is the best way to teach them that pulling gets them nowhere. For the jumping (a big thing with me - as I think it's about the most annoying thing, also because I do therapy work and it can NEVER happen - jumping on a person) I train that right from puppyhood. Never encourage it. Never pet a dog whose feet come off the floor. On the other hand, make the effort yourself to bend over and pet the dog when they are being good - making it a habit is hard for people! If a dog jumps, don't stick your hands out, don't back up. Instead walk forward right into the jump - dogs don't like that. It gets their attention. If you do that several times, most dogs stop and think...hmmmm. Then make sure you follow thru and pet them with feet on the floor. If you are having trouble, set your dog up - have family or friends walk up to you, instructed not to pet if Fido jumps. Only pet with feet on the floor. The attention seeking dog figures it out pretty quick! This is actually the very 1st lesson we teach at my obedience classes - to sit for a pat on the head. Good luck! |
NJ_Sheepie wrote: I have recently started with the prong collar. Dahlia is 15 months old and I was kicking myself that I didn't start sooner with it. If you do a search on the threads here for Prong Collar, you will find the topic. There was a lot of great advice and other experienced sheepie owners on here have used it in their dogs training. I am just not sure if 15 weeks is too young for that type of collar or if that would be acceptable..... She doesn't pull anymore! Eevee isn't my problem, Bailey is. Bailey is a year and a half now. |
got sheep wrote: To train the behavior, one of the best ways is to stop all forward progress when she pulls. The second she gives, then start forward again. It may take you a really long time to get somewhere initially.....really long!...but it is the best way to teach them that pulling gets them nowhere. For the jumping (a big thing with me - as I think it's about the most annoying thing, also because I do therapy work and it can NEVER happen - jumping on a person) I train that right from puppyhood. Never encourage it. Never pet a dog whose feet come off the floor. On the other hand, make the effort yourself to bend over and pet the dog when they are being good - making it a habit is hard for people! If a dog jumps, don't stick your hands out, don't back up. Instead walk forward right into the jump - dogs don't like that. It gets their attention. If you do that several times, most dogs stop and think...hmmmm. Then make sure you follow thru and pet them with feet on the floor. If you are having trouble, set your dog up - have family or friends walk up to you, instructed not to pet if Fido jumps. Only pet with feet on the floor. The attention seeking dog figures it out pretty quick! This is actually the very 1st lesson we teach at my obedience classes - to sit for a pat on the head. Good luck! I tried turning away from her before and ignoring her until she sat down, then I'd pet her. That got her to stop jumping on me, but not everyone else. It doesn't help that I have a bunch of family who doesn't listen to a word I say about training the dog. I tell them don't pet her when she jumps, they pet her regardless. I tell them to ignore her while we're at the dinner table, they start talking to her. It's pretty much impossible. And she doesn't jump on me or Jacob, so I can't really train her at home. Unless someone comes over. Then maybe. But that's a rare occasion. I can start training the puppy this way for sure, though. |
For those less-than-helpful family members - One way to get around it is to teach her the "leave-it" command. It's easy to use, and most dogs really get it. Start with a food item as the leave it object. The dog has to know it's there. Before you get to it, say "leave-it" and on leash, walk past it. Give corrections, so they don't eat it! Keep saying leave it. Then when you get past it, really super praise and have a party! (even if they were pulling hard to get it!). Keep repeating by walking past until they get it...usually they are getting the idea after several passes, but may randomly try to a sneak grab, just to make sure you mean it. The next step in learning is when you say "leave it", and they actually look away from the item....success! Leave it can be applied to any item...your food, something nasty on a walk, a dog/person you encounter on a walk and you just want to pass them or avoid them.....or anything or anyone you want them to ignore......like your family member! |
got sheep wrote: For those less-than-helpful family members - One way to get around it is to teach her the "leave-it" command. It's easy to use, and most dogs really get it. Start with a food item as the leave it object. The dog has to know it's there. Before you get to it, say "leave-it" and on leash, walk past it. Give corrections, so they don't eat it! Keep saying leave it. Then when you get past it, really super praise and have a party! (even if they were pulling hard to get it!). Keep repeating by walking past until they get it...usually they are getting the idea after several passes, but may randomly try to a sneak grab, just to make sure you mean it. The next step in learning is when you say "leave it", and they actually look away from the item....success! Leave it can be applied to any item...your food, something nasty on a walk, a dog/person you encounter on a walk and you just want to pass them or avoid them.....or anything or anyone you want them to ignore......like your family member! That is a really good idea! I'm not sure she would listen too well when we're out on a walk (she doesn't even pay attention to the fact that I have treats), but it would help in other places I'm sure. |
Well two parts for us: 1) We use the gentle leader that goes around the body...it does wonders 2) We have him in training....we have taught him "By me" which means return to my side. We also just go the other way if he goes out ahead. Also, we keep a treat in our fist and hang it down to our side and he just kinda prances along licking my hand and every so often we give him the treat. It's definitely an IN PROCESS thing as he will still walk ahead without the treat most times (especially on busy roads). I would recommend the gentle leader though as if he pulls, it trips him so he has stopped pulling. |
My wife can't hold Kenz and uses a Halti collar which works well and isn't uncomfortable for him. I can recommend it, but not sure exactly how it works. Nik |
Do you have a Collie and an OES? I do too! |
Oliver's Mom wrote: Do you have a Collie and an OES? I do too! No, an Aussie and an OES (: |
I went with Samantha's advice and bought a CannyCollar, it has certainly worked wonders with Bailey! She started to pull, realized that wasn't going to work, and walked quite nicely the rest of the way. My only complaint about it is that it'll slip off her nose if I don't keep tension on it, and she'll pull it off her nose with her paws if I'm not paying attention. It has made walks much easier. I'm hoping she'll eventually get used to walking without pulling and I'll eventually be able to walk her with just her regular collar. She didn't even try to jump on any people we walked by! (Eevee, being the little menace that she is, barked and growled at them all because she thinks she's a big tough dog already.) |
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