Scissoring questions

I'm really thinking about scissoring the dogs myself.
I have a really dumb question.
Do you use Thinning shears or just normal scissors?

I don't want to shave them down I just want to shorten the hair and have no idea what I am doing.
Anyone have any good articles or videos.

Thanks in advance.
Lisa Frankie and Mattie
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I do the by far most of my scissoring with my regular scissors. All the body, legs, etc.
I do use the thinning shears too, but mostly around the neck/throat and head. And if I have a lot to take off in those areas, I use the regular one 1st to remove the bulk of it, then finish with the thinning shears.
I have been thinking the same thing, that I should learn how to do this. Then I panicked and called Amber to see if we could visit her. I am such a wimp. I am going to video Amber doing the scissoring and I swear next time I will try it myself. I swear!
One thing I was taught & always told was to scissors in vertical lines as much as possible & doing so with blenders (a type of thinning shear) leaves less marks & lines. They stressed to me that I really couldn't screw things up too badly doing it that way. My biggest thing to overcome is I am always afraid I am taking off too much so I tend to under trim. But this weekend I HAVE to do José's ears or pretty soon he's going to be mistaken for a basset hound! 8O
Is that a long haired Bassett that I've heard about?

Vance
My biggest worry is cutting them. I've trimmed Butchy's ears but held my breath as I was cutting.
I've been thinking the same as you guys; time to learn to scissor the girls! Tonks is a wreck after our trip to MN; oddly Luna is matt free. I may shave Tonks, and try to scissor Luna....

Can someone recommend good scissors to buy? I'd wanted to get some at our grooming expo, but I missed it due to being in MN. :cry:
A good basic scissors that is my main "work horse" scissors is the Geib Gator. It's a decent scissors at a really good price.
There are tons to choose from (and I had a REALLY nice one and I lost it :( )...but this one has done a good job for me. In fact I just sent it away to be sharpened...it just didn't have another butt trim left in it! ;)
I just made some purchases to start my grooming training--I know nothing!! :D But I am determined to learn. I just purchased these:
http://www.petedge.com/product/Grooming ... /55100.uts

Before I purchased I got advice as to whether this was a good choice for a beginner from someone I considered an 'expert' in this area! When I got the 'thumbs up' I ordered immediately. They arrived last week and are very nice and feel good in my hand!

Now the hard part--to start! :D
thanks; looks like I'll be getting them too! Now; what about a shaver? Any preferences?
Darth Snuggle wrote:
thanks; looks like I'll be getting them too! Now; what about a shaver? Any preferences?


Look for the recent question about them that Kristine (Mad Dog) posted - it has good info. I know she got the one I and Amber have, maybe Marilyn too. I'm at work now, or else I'd just look what the clipper is!
Darth Snuggle wrote:
thanks; looks like I'll be getting them too! Now; what about a shaver? Any preferences?



These were recommended to me:
http://www.petedge.com/product/Andis-AG ... /45465.uts

They have been delivered but I haven't used them--so can't help there--

I now have all the necessary equipment I think--and just need to learn from someone--how to use it all!
Do you know which blade I should order to get the longest possible coat? What about the comb attachment? Thanks for all the good info!
Darth Snuggle wrote:
Do you know which blade I should order to get the longest possible coat? What about the comb attachment? Thanks for all the good info!


I ordered this one when I ordered the clippers-

http://www.petedge.com/product/Grooming ... /43030.uts


-I am not sure which other one's I need. That is a question that I need to ask too.
sheepiezone wrote:
Darth Snuggle wrote:
Do you know which blade I should order to get the longest possible coat? What about the comb attachment? Thanks for all the good info!


I ordered this one when I ordered the clippers-

http://www.petedge.com/product/Grooming ... /43030.uts


-I am not sure which other one's I need. That is a question that I need to ask too.


I think the 3 basic blades to have are a #10 (generally comes with the clippers), a #3-3/4 & a #7.

The comb attachments don't really work well on OES hair.
So where does someone learn to do this? I mean, out here in the vast desert wasteland of NM, there just aren't that many sheepie owners. I currently know of four. FOUR in the whole state. I want to learn!
SamHeinous wrote:
So where does someone learn to do this? I mean, out here in the vast desert wasteland of NM, there just aren't that many sheepie owners. I currently know of four. FOUR in the whole state. I want to learn!



I learned from my breeder & also from another breeder that we went to shows with.
Many of us don't have good breeders; some of us rescued our dogs, and others (me) were idiots when it came time to get a puppy and went with a less-than-reputable breeder. So we don't have the option of going to our breeder for help.

Are there any online tutorials? How about a mentoring program?!? Who can I drop in on with two over-grown dogs and get some guidance from?!?! :lol:
My co-worker who is one of the only ones in this town with an OES keeps hers in full coat - so she can show me how to brush etc, but I intend to keep my girl in a puppy cut largely. Or at least trimmed down. Maybe I'll see if my hairdresser can come over, lol.
SamHeinous wrote:
My co-worker who is one of the only ones in this town with an OES keeps hers in full coat - so she can show me how to brush etc, but I intend to keep my girl in a puppy cut largely. Or at least trimmed down. Maybe I'll see if my hairdresser can come over, lol.


That made me laugh, as my hair dresser is fabulous. She has her own little hairy dog Cece. But I think Kim's burnt out with hair at the end of the day, as she lets Cece get matted and takes her in several times a year for a shave! :wink:
We used to use clippers on our Winston, but a few weeks ago we just used scissors and they worked really well. We just used a pair of good normal (kitchen) scissor and Win was so relaxed that he just feel asleep (he was never as relaxed with the clippers). It was a bit uneven, yes, but we just evened it out and tidied him up and he looks adorable (as always)!...His hair is now about 2 inches long and he's all velvety; no longer puffy and woolly (i.e. less cute but also less hot and less matted!)
Kim: Pierre can show you how to scissor your girls anytime!
Darth Snuggle wrote:
Many of us don't have good breeders; some of us rescued our dogs, and others (me) were idiots when it came time to get a puppy and went with a less-than-reputable breeder. So we don't have the option of going to our breeder for help.

Are there any online tutorials? How about a mentoring program?!? Who can I drop in on with two over-grown dogs and get some guidance from?!?! :lol:



Let's think about hosting a 'Grooming Workshop'! We could invite the experts and pay them for their time by charging a small fee for the workshop--we do could have some sheepie fun too! Just a thought- :idea:

I would be glad to work on it--Nashville is pretty central to many places!
Actually, Karen, that is a great idea. :bulb: If I remember correctly, Mandy hosted one a few years ago and it was well attended. Everyone who went seemed to have had a great time and learned a lot.

I tend to just dive in and give it a try. After a few bad haircuts in the early years from the supposed "professionals" around here, I figured I couldn't make them look any worse. :lol:
My kids don't look anywhere near as nice as Marilyn's!! But, they're presentable and I enjoy working on them. I'd much rather do it myself than send them somewhere. Plus, even with the considerable investment of the equipment, I figured in the long run I'm saving myself a lot of money considering locally it cost me almost $100/dog to get them groomed.

I use Oster A5 dual speed turbo clippers and a number 10 blade with a comb attachment to get this look on Madison.


I'd never used the comb attachments before. In fact, this is embarrassing, but I'll tell you anyway. :wink: I bought a set of combs and took them back because I couldn't figure out how to put them on the clippers. :oops:
I changed my mind, again, repurchased them and this time I marched myself straight into the groomers and had a girl show me how to put them on. Geez. I really was embarrassed when I saw how simple it was. :oops:

But, now I know and I use them all the time. I have had other people tell me they don't like them for OES coats. But, I've not had too hard of a time with it. I am not so great with the scissors. :roll: I need more practice. Poor wigglebums. :roll:
Thanks for the compliment Tammy but remember.....most of the time when you see my dogs they are "ring ready". The rest of their lives they probably look a lot worse than most OES :oops:
I like that look Tammy. In fact, that's pretty much the look I'm hoping to keep my girl in. Number 10 blade with a comb attachement eh? So I should probably invest in some decent clippers eh? I'm guessing the one I use on the kids heads isn't going to cut the mustard - or the sheepie hair.
so I looked through my grooming room, and sure enough I HAVE an Andis with a #10 blade. I'm going for it; wish me luck!!!
Post photos of the results!
Beaureguard's Mom wrote:
Actually, Karen, that is a great idea. :bulb: If I remember correctly, Mandy hosted one a few years ago and it was well attended. Everyone who went seemed to have had a great time and learned a lot.

I tend to just dive in and give it a try. After a few bad haircuts in the early years from the supposed "professionals" around here, I figured I couldn't make them look any worse. :lol:
My kids don't look anywhere near as nice as Marilyn's!! But, they're presentable and I enjoy working on them. I'd much rather do it myself than send them somewhere. Plus, even with the considerable investment of the equipment, I figured in the long run I'm saving myself a lot of money considering locally it cost me almost $100/dog to get them groomed.

I use Oster A5 dual speed turbo clippers and a number 10 blade with a comb attachment to get this look on Madison.


I'd never used the comb attachments before. In fact, this is embarrassing, but I'll tell you anyway. :wink: I bought a set of combs and took them back because I couldn't figure out how to put them on the clippers. :oops:
I changed my mind, again, repurchased them and this time I marched myself straight into the groomers and had a girl show me how to put them on. Geez. I really was embarrassed when I saw how simple it was. :oops:

But, now I know and I use them all the time. I have had other people tell me they don't like them for OES coats. But, I've not had too hard of a time with it. I am not so great with the scissors. :roll: I need more practice. Poor wigglebums. :roll:


She looks great! Thanks for the pics!
Check Utube. They have all kinds of grooming videos. They even have a series of an OES in full coat from bath to show ring.
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