Sad, sad, stray in Middleburg, FL (near Jacksonville)
 I am hoping someone can help... We own a house next to a couple of wooded lots on a creek in Middleburg FL. Someone put their sheepdog out on our street, or he found us somehow. This poor dog has been living in the woods for weeks. Matted, scared of people, I have been unable to do more than feed him several times a day. I built him a dog house to help him stay warm and dry, but he won't go near it. He won't let me near him either...and although he loves to be around my other two dogs when they are outside playing, he hobbles off whenever he sees me. You can tell he is terrified of people. His back rear leg is hurt. For awhile he couldn't put it down, now he is hobbling on it at least. I called animal control and when they reluctantly came out, I found out through questioning the man who came that "if" they could catch the dog, they would probably put him down if he wasn't social. Being scared of people (duh) might make him appear to be "unsocial". he couldn't even say for certain that I could adopt the dog if they captured it. So I went there and rented a cage to try and catch him myself so I could get him to my vets office here in hopes of getting him the care he needs (possibly a forever home with me, or at least a home until I can find him a good forever home), but the dog is so terrified of enclosed spaces, he wouldn't get in it even if I put it out there, I feel very sure. And even if he did, he would never, ever, trust me again if I used it on him. So I am at a loss. My neighbor down the street hates the dog and wants animal control to come get him because he howls every morning he says around 4am and wakes him up. I have heard him howl and cry in the daytime and it is the saddest, saddest sound. Please. If you have any other ideas or know of options that I might have to help this poor dog, please tell me. I have never tried to rescue a stray dog before. And this dog breaks my heart... Thank you! |
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| hi, he is in fear mode, which is heartbreaking. i've seen dogs in this state run from loving family members. is the cage you are talking about a walk in kind? describe it for me please, trap door? size? a very high value (like kfc chicken) treat may get him in it, but it will take sometime. if you are feeding him now, that's a great start. the trap should be placed nearby where you are currently feeding him. i have seen some in fear mode on night vision avoid the cage even when hungry, but eventually will enter if they have become used to eating at a certain spot. they also have been calm after trapped if they weren't aggressive dogs originally. camouflaging the cage with branches and brush helps. check to see if there are any rescues nearby that might have knowledge with trapping. i'll email my protrapper and see if he knows anyone nearby you.  |
| Thank you for responding. This dog would never walk into (or crawl into) this trap I have. I got it from the local animal control and it was so nasty when I got it, I spent over an hour just washing and disinfecting it with pure bleach. I wouldn't have put a dead possum in it it was so bad. (And that was probably what was in it, the way it smelled) This dog is terrified of enclosed spaces. He won't even walk under an overhang I made of a roof tarp to try and keep him and his food dry. he would only eat when the tray is out away from under the overhang. I spoke on the phone with a nice lady from oes rescue and it seems this dog is not a 'purebred' because it has a tail, so i am not even sure at this point what it is then. She is helping me find out so i can try and help get this dog what it needs to live and hopefully be loved. Thank you for any help, like with the name and contact info of a pro/humane trapper. |
| That's a load of crap about it not being a purebred OES because it has a tail. EVERY OES has a tail. We just choose to cut them off. There are people in the U.S. that have purebred OESs with tails. Diane's (Jonesy) Benson is one of them. Please don't give up on this dog. Hopefully a professional trapper with dog experience will be of some help. |
| I am absolutely not giving up on this dog. I don't really care what kind he is, I just want to help him get medical attention and love. We own two dogs, one of which is a 'Heinz57' and she is one of the best dogs I have ever had... If anyone has a name of a pro trapper in North FL, please pass it on. I emailed one person to see if they could/would help me... No reply yet. Thank you! |
| I think that you are marvelous for helping this poor dog. I can't offer much practical help, but I am sending you positive thoughts and hope that this dog learns to recognize you as a kind person who only wants to help. Keep us posted! |
| My Miss Lucy is a "purebred" and she has a tail. She was just poorly bred by ignorant, heartless, loathsome people. Nonetheless, thank you for caring about this dog. I've read great success stories of people allowing the dog to get used to them by just sitting near them and bringing something yummy for the dog. The dogs got used to the people and got closer and closer to them, until they were eventually able to rescue them. Good luck and please keep us posted. |
| hi, i'll let you call him and discuss whether he knows anyone in your area or quote you a price. steve hagey, tell him kota's uncle d told you to call him.  btw, he is as good as it gets and i haven't found anyone experienced with dog trapping in your area. Telephone: 215-997-2687 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Email: info@DetectAPetUSA.com A return response via email may be delayed, as I do not have computer access while traveling out of the area. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- US Mail: Detect-A-Pet P.O. Box 521 Hatfield, PA 19440. |
| You'll need to figure out what you'll do with him once you have him. Capturing him is only part of the solution to this current dilemma ... he also needs someone who will foster him, fund his medical care and try to work through any behavior challenges... if he even has any. Hopefully you can find a rescue that will offer to do this. These dogs that have been abandoned or lost don't know who they can trust so we oftentimes aren't seeing the real dog at all. We don't know what someone might have done to them to instill this fear. And I do think it's all about trust, showing by example, sometimes many times, that you intend them no harm... once the fear/panic have eased. Knowing just how far you can push and when to back off... respecting the dogs limits... coaxing rather than forcing. Hope For Paws Animal Rescue is in California... but it appears they do what you're trying to do or have done. If you're on Facebook, you might ask to join this group http://www.facebook.com/groups/36217105339/ and ask if they can advise or know of anyone who might help in Florida. Or contact them directly- http://www.hopeforpaws.org/?page_id=54 . Videos of their work- http://www.youtube.com/user/eldad75#g/u He's suffering and this can't continue, no matter the outcome. I hope this baby won't be spending many more nights on his own. This is not how his life should have been... |
Guest wrote: Thank you for responding. This dog would never walk into (or crawl into) this trap I have. I got it from the local animal control and it was so nasty when I got it, I spent over an hour just washing and disinfecting it with pure bleach. I wouldn't have put a dead possum in it it was so bad. (And that was probably what was in it, the way it smelled) This dog is terrified of enclosed spaces. He won't even walk under an overhang I made of a roof tarp to try and keep him and his food dry. he would only eat when the tray is out away from under the overhang. I spoke on the phone with a nice lady from oes rescue and it seems this dog is not a 'purebred' because it has a tail, so i am not even sure at this point what it is then. She is helping me find out so i can try and help get this dog what it needs to live and hopefully be loved. Thank you for any help, like with the name and contact info of a pro/humane trapper. OOhhh dear dogs with tails not " purebred"  Us in the UK and have not been able to dock our " Purebred" OES since April 2007, Europe was earlyer . If the tip of the dog is white there is every chance he is a full OES, unless tail has been damage in some way. Thank you for feeding and trying to make him safe,, our thoughts are with you and the little fella who needs a home and to be loved  |
| Thank you everyone! So much encouragement here, it has helped me not feel so alone in this... Thank you for the phone number, I will call right away. Hopefully there is networking among peers and organizations between PA and FL. Seems most of the "trappers" in Fl are possums, bats, alligators, etc. And i really don't want to be the one to trap him because i want him to trust me later. I am planning to build a small fenced area this week (about 15' x 30') setting it in the direct path he normally travels down next to my house. I was thinking if all else failed i could have two gates, one on each end. I would buy wide gates and leave both open for about a week so he can continue walking through them at will. Also camouflaging the sides a bit to make it seem more 'woodsy'. I will begin leaving super goodies in the fenced area during the week. (I have been dehydrating round roasts and leaving strips in his food. He likes those and goes for them 1st each day!) Then at the end of the week if all goes well, close one end, wait til he goes inside and quietly slip around to close the other gate. Then I could easily do as suggested and sit in the enclosed area each day when I am feeding him, read a book, etc., then edge closer to him gradually. If I am successful, this can also become an area he can 'live" safely in that has shelter while he is getting accustomed to me and while i am learning if he can become a family member. I feel sure I can find a mobile vet to come here and doctor him if necessary if he isn't overly aggressive. If anyone sees flaws in this "last plan" please let me know! So I will keep all of you kind, helpful people updated... Thank you again!! |
CamVal1 wrote: That's a load of crap about it not being a purebred OES because it has a tail. EVERY OES has a tail. We just choose to cut them off. There are people in the U.S. that have purebred OESs with tails. Diane's (Jonesy) Benson is one of them. Please don't give up on this dog. Hopefully a professional trapper with dog experience will be of some help. Mark, 99% plus of the time a tail does indeed signify a mix in this country, so OES rescue is almost certainly correct. That's neither here nor there as far as this particular dog is concerned. When an agility competitor was killed in a motor vehicle accident a few years back and her normally sweet, friendly rottie escaped they used a large humane trap, food and people who knew the dog well and still had a hard time trapping her. She was injured as well, and absolutely traumatized. Kristine |
| I videoed the dog from my upstairs window after he ate. I am posting the link to the video here so you guys can see the dog. It's on photobucket and the video is short: http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii513/b4now/?action=view¤t=dog.mp4 I am also posting a picture: http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii513/b4now/?action=view¤t=dog-photo.jpg It's hard to tell how big he is from these (angles, mats in fur) , but he towers over my german shepherd. What do you guys think he might be, if not oes? (He has been diggin holes in the banks to burrow in, I think to stay cool. he has also been playing with other dogs in muddy bogs around here. So he may or may not be white when cleaned up, i don't know) |
That poor dog....he really needs a cut and bath, and who knows what condition he's actually in under that hair.  From the picture and video, I'd say goldendoodle as a best guess. |
| Thank you got sheep! I looked pictures up on google and yes, he looks just like it! |
| I hope you are able to get him help...he needs it! |
| Poor pup. Thank you for caring. Reel that fish in. |
| I emailed Eldad Hagar at Hope for Paws and sent him a link to this topic to see if he has any resources near you in Florida that can help. This is just what he does, rescues scared, lost, hurt pups and he is amazing. Hopefully he will respond with some ideas. Thank you for caring about this guy! |
| Oh thank you so much! Any help would be so appreciated. I know i am racing against a clock. (Disease, wild animals, florida heat...even angry neighbors) This guy seems like such a muffin. At first i thought he was an older dog because he can't see well (probably the hair in his eyes)...but he tries to frolic with my 1 year old shepherd like a big puppy! I was happy to see this morning he still has a "spring" to his step! And I know this is an OES forum...so thank you even more so for helping us even when finding out he isn't one! |
| Thanks for helping him! Wow it is so sad that he is in this position! It was tough to watch the video. Hope you bare successful! I am in florida about 3 hours south of you, pm me of you get him and need help. |
| hi, is your goldendoodle wearing any kind of collar? i cannot tell from picture or video? i'm workin on a plan to shorten your time frame after you build the pen. from my experience, you'll need 100' or more of rope laying on the ground tied to the gate for closing it as i highly doubt you'll sneak up on him. you'll have to judge distance and sight and downwind that you can get to it w/o being seen. it's a great sign he's playful with other dogs. can you let your dogs play with him as much as possible till you get pen up? |
sad_stray_finder wrote: So he may or may not be white when cleaned up, i don't know I paid for a groom for the boy on the left about 6 years ago... his name was Buddy.   I had a really hard time believing Buddy was transformed into Bevyn 5 months later... the shelter director and rescue confirmed it. Dirt and red clay can fool us when it comes to coat color. I've coaxed stray cats and dogs to me over the years... trapped feral cats... captured Canada geese and seagulls freehand. An hour in subzero weather one winter to gain the trust of a stray cat that I thought had 5 legs because she was horribly matted. Cooked chicken gained her trust in the end. http://oesusa.com/OurDog4.jpg Just go slow and try to build the trust... unless you have access to a large humane trap. If a trap is an option, I'd get him contained so his needs can be addressed more quickly. But it needs to be large enough for him to enter easily. There's a balance... if you can skip a meal without him wandering off to find food elsewhere, his hunger may force him to go places he wouldn't otherwise go... like into a securely fenced area or trap. Make sure the fence is both high enough and sturdy enough to contain a panicked dog.Hoping you'll soon gain his trust. Please keep us posted... |
| Wow... Can I just adopt all of you???  oesmom2 wrote: Thanks for helping him! Wow it is so sad that he is in this position! It was tough to watch the video. Hope you bare successful! I am in florida about 3 hours south of you, pm me of you get him and need help. Thank you! guest56 wrote: Dirt and red clay can fool us when it comes to coat color. OMG. Now I'm back to not being sure anymore what he is. He looks just like 'Buddy' / pre Bevyn!! oesmom2 wrote: is your goldendoodle wearing any kind of collar? i cannot tell from picture or video? i'm workin on a plan to shorten your time frame after you build the pen. from my experience, you'll need 100' or more of rope laying on the ground tied to the gate for closing it as i highly doubt you'll sneak up on him. you'll have to judge distance and sight and downwind that you can get to it w/o being seen. it's a great sign he's playful with other dogs. can you let your dogs play with him as much as possible till you get pen up? I can't get close enough to see if he has on a collar. He scoots off at the first sight or sound of me sadly. He doesn't see very well...so i was hoping to be able to set a motion floodlight on the side of the house, that would go off when entering the pen to eat. (He's used to motion lights around here at night) The when it goes off, quietly slip over to shut it, around a back corner of the house. I would probably only have one shot at it. I doubt he'd walk back through it a 2nd time if I miss. I do let my dogs play with him alot. In fact, many times he won't come out of the woods until he sees them in the yard. I know it cheers him up and helps make him not feel so alone. Hopefully it will help keep him around until I can figure this out. He has fleas/mites on him, or the terrible mats are bothering him because he is scratching, scratching. I am going to slip a capstar in his food bowl tonight. Hopefully he will gobble it down! That will help kill fleas and other pests (except ticks) for 24 hrs anyway. I don't know what else to give him without a vets help. Like another member said, there's no telling what's going on under that horrible mat. I would hate to think he has flesh wounds unattended... I will keep checking this forum every few hours to see if there are updates from you all. Thank you! |
| omg what ever her is he needs help please do what you can i get why you need to help poor thing |
| Thank you for caring and trying to help this poor guy. |
| I still think he/she could be a sheepdog I see grey in there and it looks like the tip of the tail is white I have seen several OES with tails come out of that area...some screwy back yard breeder maybe. If you manage to catch him he may be scared and nip If you can get him to your vet They may (if he is scared) be able to sedate him and shave If you do this send me your vets number I will gladly pitch in to help:) |
4dognight wrote: I still think he/she could be a sheepdog I see grey in there and it looks like the tip of the tail is white I have seen several OES with tails come out of that area...some screwy back yard breeder maybe. If you manage to catch him he may be scared and nip If you can get him to your vet They may (if he is scared) be able to sedate him and shave If you do this send me your vets number I will gladly pitch in to help:) As big as he is, I honestly think you may be right in him being oes... His head is HUGE. I sent a looong email with video and photo to my vet of 8 years this morning. I am also going up there this afternoon. They all have a big heart and between him and his office staff i am hopeful somebody will have resources to help me get this guy safely. My husband is willing to build the fence here, so hopefully by the weekend, if nothing else happens between now and then, I will have it up and ready. I have already started edging his food dish towards the area that will be fenced. I inquired about the vet making a "fence call" at the house, using Benadryl or something similar perhaps so they could treat him or transport him from here. Thank you for your kind offer of assistance. Hopefully the vet's office will be gentle in price too  |
| Another question everyone: Granted the hair is all down his face, but this morning, he was playing with my dogs while I happened to be outside. He walked up to within 10 feet from me and never saw me at all! I have noticed that he does not see well, but this makes me think the poor guy is almost blind. Would long hair do that, or do these dogs have eye problems that typically run with the breed? Part of me thinks he may be a young dog because the bouncy way he plays with my dogs; the poor vision makes me wonder if he is losing his sight common with older dogs?? |
| First of all, thank you so much for caring and looking after this poor guy! I sure hope you can eventually catch him and get him to a vet and have him groomed. Poor fellow. With all that hair, he can't see. He could have some sort of an eye issue/infection etc, but, likely, he just can't see with all of that matted heavy hair in his face. This is why sheepdogs (except when being shown) have their hair tied up in a hair band or barrette. If they don't, it is so dangerous and they can run into walls, trees etc. They just can't see through the hair. |
| That makes sense about pulling his hair up. Hopefully that is all that would be needed... I am getting more and more sad over this poor dog. Sure wish I knew the people responsible for putting him out. I would have a few things to say... Thank you! |
| He's likely survived this long by being cautious. If he's truly blind, either due to a medical condition or just hair blocking his view, could you try this since he's already friendly with your dogs? Keep your dogs on leashes and walk out with them to greet him... but don't make any sound. Have quiet clothing on (no fabrics that make a swish-swish sound) and colors that are more neutral in case he's only vision impaired and not blind. See if he'll come up to your group, maybe get more of your scent. But don't make any effort to touch him at first... just see if are able to get close. You'll have to decide if this is appropriate... Using treats can cause problems if any dogs in the group might display food aggression. If from past experience you know for certain everyone's good... especially the stray boy... super good treats may help you make a new friend. I wish Kathy was on here... she's with Carolinas OES Rescue. She just brought in a blind girl, maybe terrier-mix, just the other day for another rescue... poor thing was terrified and wanted to eat someone (Marty ) when they when to pick her up at the shelter. She wouldn't let him near her. An employee at the shelter asked if she wanted the "cat gloves".  Kathy said she picked her up with a blanket, they began bonding with a cheeseburger in the car (top-left picture). She then went on to be sure the burger bag was truly empty by snuffling around. The next day, she was in Marty's arms being hugged. It's going to take some time for her to relax/trust but with a kind hand, she's beginning to blossom.   So what you see in these situations isn't always the true nature of the dog. If he does have vision problems and you are successful in getting him, be sure to always talk softly to him before touching him so he knows you're approaching. Like deaf dogs, they have a startle reflex. (I have a dog born visually impaired.) We won't even get into irresponsible owners and breeders.  |
| Hi Jaci, Thank you for your long reply and suggestions. He's not totally blind because he can see well enough to scoot away from me when he hears me or I move... i think he's just having a hard time seeing for whatever reason. My dogs would be in a frenzy if I tried to feed him a treat with them around I feel sure. They would make it miserable for him, even if he hung around us. It is a juggling act each day for me to feed him because of that... My dogs are "in" when his food is "out"...then if he doesn't eat it within a few hours, his food goes up and my dogs go out... then rinse and repeat until he gets fed, sometimes as much as 5 times every day. This morning he did eat a Capstar I put in his food, so all critters on him will be dead for at least 24 hours. It's not much but it should help alleviate the itching. I can keep doing that for a while. At almost $10 a pill, I can't do it every day, but I can sure do it off and on until hopefully he is bathed and medicated I think at this point my best bet is going to be to try and "trap" him into a fenced enclosure. From there, I might have a shot at becoming friends with him when he can't run away. I am hoping my vet's office will be willing to come to my house to treat and sedate / transport him once he's caught. Seems all I can do these days is obsess over this guy. Not getting much other work done, I am so consumed with him.... |
| I think the Capstar was a great idea. The itching may continue if it's due to tight matting of his coat or injury to his skin under it but at least the bugs should be dead for now! You're like me... I obsess over a dog in trouble too. I hate to see them suffering and have to at least try to do something. I tried to get a small poodle... I think it was last year. It was in horrid condition and terrified... I had to back off because it was bouncing off a chain link fence trying to escape. I couldn't get near it to help it and it disappeared... |
| Ohhh, that must have been hard on you to watch that. Poodles can be so hyper I can see that happening! From your avatar picture I recognize some my dogs stuffed animals too! I swear I spoil them more than I ever did my kids!! (I think my dogs appreciate their toys more too) |
| The fence didn't contain the dog, it spanned the length of the airport. And I wasn't prepared either... we came across the dog while driving home one day... I had a leash but no treats were available. sad_stray_finder wrote: From your avatar picture I recognize some my dogs stuffed animals too! I swear I spoil them more than I ever did my kids!! (I think my dogs appreciate their toys more too) They're like kids too... they don't pick up their toys when they're done playing either! Good luck to you. We're all pulling for you and hope you'll be able to help give this dog a better life. |
| Thank you!!! I have been so encouraged by all the replies and helpful suggestions here. I will keep everyone posted... |
| I am so touched by your story. Sending you all the well wishes and good thoughts possible! |
| I keep checking back here to see if you have an update on this poor pup. I shared this with my other half yesterday and it brought tears to his eyes. He is never interested in these threads  but, I had him glued to this thread while I read every post to him. I made him look at the photo and video and he was so upset. I keep hoping that you will be able to help him and that he keeps coming back to you.... |
| Just checking in to see if you've had any progress. I'll keep my fingers crossed. You are this pups angel...I hope you know that! |
| Hello all, Sorry to be late in answering. i have gotten so far behind in my work I got stuck in it yesterday Update on "Mr. Muffin" (Yes, I have named him, silly as that sounds) He did really well the day of the capstar. He played and played and played with my two dogs in the front yard. he seemed almost happy...then yesterday, i didn't see him but one time when he ate... and he didn't look good. He was hopping on 3 legs. Apparently his rear leg previously hurt or so matted he can't put it down really is bad. I have been so upset over this, I know my time is really running out. Hubby is planning to get the fence supplies today so we can hurriedly get one built. I have moved his feeding to that area so that much is in place. And I did go up and speak with my vets office and they are in agreement to come to my house and sedate him and transport him up there for whatever medical he needs. I have thought about going ahead and putting worm medicine in his food bowl now so he can go ahead and be that much ahead but now that he's hopping around it may require too much spent energy if it upsets his bowels. I don't want to wear him down trying to get him built up. He is still eating well, and I make sure he has plenty of fresh water close buy in two places in the yard. Yesterday he had fresh chicken and roast beef I have been dehydrating. I give him "treats" like Jumbo bones to perk him up. he eats a couple of big cans of dog food that I vary to give him something to look forward to each time. And he always has dried food, also varied. Because hubby doesn't get home til after dark each day, and he's tired, it's been hard to do the fence...also it's quite a financial investment for us right now, but we are doing it hopefully in just the nick of time. Thank you for "standing by". It means alot!! And btw, I really do think Mr. Muffin is an oes. I shot video of him while he was playing with my dogs so sweetly (that's how I came up with his name because he is such a muffin). The fur on his back looks darker than the rest of him. I just don't know how he'll feel with it up in a barret if I tell him he's a guy! |
a good shave and a bath will make him feel marvelous!! there probably will not be any hair to barett up!! That way you can check his skin out!! Are there any rescue groups around you that you could contact with members who have experience catching scared strays help you?? My german shepherd group has caught many a scared dog Once I sat in a field with liverwrust for over 6 hrs waiting for a dog to come near me and snatch a bite Another member did the same and finally caught the dog. A group like this could be a good resource Oh I can't wait for you to have him  Mr Muffin please let this wonderful person catch you! |
4dognight wrote: a good shave and a bath will make him feel marvelous!! there probably will not be any hair to barett up!! That way you can check his skin out!! Are there any rescue groups around you that you could contact with members who have experience catching scared strays help you?? My german shepherd group has caught many a scared dog Once I sat in a field with liverwrust for over 6 hrs waiting for a dog to come near me and snatch a bite Another member did the same and finally caught the dog. A group like this could be a good resource Oh I can't wait for you to have him Mr Muffin please let this wonderful person catch you!Oh yes. He will be clean as a plucked chicken as soon as I can get him to the vets office! I was just thinking about the enclosure today... i never considered the fact that his path out of the woods would take him to the 'side" of the fence. he may feel blocked out and he can't see well either. I would hate him to walk into it. So I think on the day I actually want to try and shut him in, I will not feed him that morning, so he's really hungry. Then lead him up his most walked path out of the woods like Hansel and Gretel with morsels of cooked steak and chicken by dropping pieces along his way until he is at his food bowl. Hopefully he won't see that the gate is closed at the opposite end. I don't know of anyone else to help. I am banking on him being a creature of habit to an extent and the fact he has been fed here for a few weeks to build up his sense of security. If I fail at this plan, I will probably have to beg the vet to knock him out in the woods and then go search for him while he's asleep. I don't want to scare him away. And I love the thought of feeding him liverwurst. It's so stinky he can't miss it! Great idea! Thanks |
| Just a thought: Is there a fast acting sedative that one could mix into a dog's food that would not necessarily knock the dog out but really slow him down so that a person could snag him? If that exists, maybe that's the route to take. At the very least, you could drop a couple of Benadryl's into his food. Should make him a little sleepy. Maybe he'd be less inclined to run. |
CamVal1 wrote: Just a thought: Is there a fast acting sedative that one could mix into a dog's food that would not necessarily knock the dog out but really slow him down so that a person could snag him? If that exists, maybe that's the route to take. At the very least, you could drop a couple of Benadryl's into his food. Should make him a little sleepy. Maybe he'd be less inclined to run. Well, we had an opposite thing happen with Benedryl. It was many many years ago, and we were doing a home trim job on Ollie, our 1st OES. He was all antsy, so bright me said - try benedryl. Well, he never got drowsy at all, and in fact became anxious and even somewhat aggressive (I'm guessing the drugged feeling scared him). So, it may backfire.  |
| Benedryl can be unpredictable...in people at least. It makes some people sleepy, but others can get hyper/amped up. |
| Actually, 2 different vets have told me that Benedryl does not work the same in dogs as humans and that often it does not make a dog sleepy.... |
| Hmmm. OK. I know it makes me sleepy. And it makes Brick sleepy, too. |
CamVal1 wrote: Hmmm. OK. I know it makes me sleepy. And it makes Brick sleepy, too. Yes, it makes me sleepy. Extremely. If I take even 25mg I need to be near a bed! But working night shifts in a hospital, I know 1st hand how sometimes you get exactly the opposite result!! Some people go bonkers and hyper...and not good when you work in an orthopedic/neuro unit! |
| hi, is your vet going to dart mr. muffin?  |
guest56 wrote: hi, is your vet going to dart mr. muffin? Ewww, I never, ever wondered about that!! That seems cruel. I certainly hope there's a better plan than that! I will find out... The vet I really, really like has been out all week at a conference somewhere but will be back to the clinic on Sat morning. Think I'll just go up there early Sat and ask in person. Thank you!! I am also going to ask about a "fast acting tranquilizer in his food" as was suggested... |
| What about some Tramadol? It's a pain reliever but it also makes Bella really sleepy. I used it when she was having horrible itchies last spring due to seasonal allergies and she turned into a total lazy bones..... |
Bellalover wrote: What about some Tramadol? It's a pain reliever but it also makes Bella really sleepy. I used it when she was having horrible itchies last spring due to seasonal allergies and she turned into a total lazy bones..... I will definitely ask! Thank you! |
| Tramadol has opiates in it...which in humans could mean super sleepy or wired for sound (much like Benadryl does). I would think a sedative that is meant to be a sedative would be the best option. Neither of those 2 medications are "meant" as sedatives, they have side effects that may cause drowsiness...but may not . Just my humble opinion... |
bonnaroofairy wrote: Tramadol has opiates in it...which in humans could mean super sleepy or wired for sound (much like Benadryl does). I would think a sedative that is meant to be a sedative would be the best option. Neither of those 2 medications are "meant" as sedatives, they have side effects that may cause drowsiness...but may not .Just my humble opinion... Thank you Tiffany. I would have to be very very desperate to try and medicate him myself. That is on the agenda for the vet Saturday morning I want to talk to him about. The woods around here are very thick with vines, hills (yes even in Florida!), and palmetto bushes. If he was groggy or aggressive, either or both of us could get hurt fast and I couldn't handle him by myself in either case. So hopefully, I can do the lure into the fenced area correctly and then get strong help... Least that's the plan. There have been so many great suggestions from the board, like camouflaging the sides of the fenced area, liverwurst and more. I would have been lost without all the help here! |
| Just wanted to let you know we are rooting for you!!! And anxiously awaiting and hoping for good news for this baby. Our charlie was found stray/abandoned... 100% OES WITH a tail. Good luck! |
Sounds like you have a good plan! We have all fingers  and paws crossed here that you are successful! You really are his angel!  |
| I've been eagerly reading all the posts, and wish I had something to add! I help out sometimes with the OES South East Rescue, but I'm fairly certain Florida isn't part of our region. All the same, I'll call my contact and see if she knows anyone that can help! |
| Here's the rescue contacts for Florida from the rescue section of this forum. Maybe there's someone close by that could maybe assist you getting that fence up or maybe do something to help or maybe provide some valuable advice? Another thought can you place a piece of fabric/clothing with your scent on it under his food bowl. Then maybe he'll associate your scent with good. Just a thought. I wish I lived close I'd come and help you. I really hope you can help that poor dog regardless of what breed he is. FLORIDA WebSite Steve & Candy Pridavka SPrid13450@aol.com OES Rescue of Florida, Inc. 954-434-4970 Worden Willis (Ft.Lauderdale) www_doggie_rescue@yahoo.com 561-674-6289 FINO Doggie Rescue Paul Newton FLOESR@aol.com 727-323-8578 Fiona Bowen (Panhandle only) placement@oesrescuenetwork.org 678-714-6702 http://www.oesrescuenetwork.org |
| Any thoughts about setting up a webcam in your backyard? Preferrably high up so you can get an idea of where he goes? If you know where he goes, you'll know where to look for him if the vet decides to tranquilize him via his food. |
| ok, i need to explain that your comment of "i'll have to beg the vet to knock him out in the woods and then find him" made me paranoid about the vet darting him. darting a dog is basically a no-no as the shot has to be perfect in the hind quarter and can do damage if off at all. dosage is a problem also, nothing like the wild animal scenes we've all seen that seem easy. they aren't either. also not a good idea to use a sedative in the food of a loose dog as he can become prey if he runs and can't be found. i'm pretty sure you'll find your vet is planning you having mr. muffin in the fenced enclosure and using a slip collar and a mild sedative shot. i just wanted to be on the side of safety. heres hoping mr. muffin walks right in the enclosure to eat. |
Las Vegas Sheepie Lover wrote: Here's the rescue contacts for Florida from the rescue section of this forum. Maybe there's someone close by that could maybe assist you getting that fence up or maybe do something to help or maybe provide some valuable advice? Another thought can you place a piece of fabric/clothing with your scent on it under his food bowl. Then maybe he'll associate your scent with good. Just a thought. I wish I lived close I'd come and help you. Thank you for the info/contacts and the clothing idea is a great one! I will absolutely do that! CamVal1 wrote: Any thoughts about setting up a webcam in your backyard? Preferrably high up so you can get an idea of where he goes? If you know where he goes, you'll know where to look for him if the vet decides to tranquilize him via his food. That would be awesome if it were possible. The woods around here are very thick and the water oaks very tall. He moves around alot also... he digs burrows all over the woods, I think to try and stay cool in the sand. He does have his favorite paths and trails to the house however if I needed to go search for him. A bit of good news though... Yesterday he was hopping on 3 legs with one pulled up. Today when I saw him later in the afternoon, he was walking again, still favoring the leg, but putting pressure on it. And he wagged his tail when he saw the german shepherd and played a little bit, so I was encouraged by that. Yesterday he didn't feel like playing or being around the other dogs. I will take any good news at all at this point and be encouraged by it! Guest wrote: i need to explain that your comment of "i'll have to beg the vet to knock him out in the woods and then find him" made me paranoid about the vet darting him. darting a dog is basically a no-no as the shot has to be perfect in the hind quarter and can do damage if off at all. dosage is a problem also, nothing like the wild animal scenes we've all seen that seem easy. they aren't either. also not a good idea to use a sedative in the food of a loose dog as he can become prey if he runs and can't be found. i'm pretty sure you'll find your vet is planning you having mr. muffin in the fenced enclosure and using a slip collar and a mild sedative shot. i just wanted to be on the side of safety More good advice! I could never live with myself if he ran off and got hurt or lost again, a badly aimed dart was used, etc... UGH When all this is over, think I'll become a drinking girl |
| I think physical containment is the best approach. Sedation can have it's problems since you don't know where he goes to sleep... you don't want him to be vulnerable while sedated. And a panicked sedated dog can be dangerous too... as mentioned, meds can have the opposite effect but they may alter a dog's inhibitions. OMG... did I miss this video or is it new??? I only saw the brief one of him walking and the still picture.http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii5 ... uffin2.mp4 From the color just over the nose, thinking he's got some natural brown/cream hues to his coloring. Just a guess of course but I think he can see. He seems matched with your German Shepherd and more respectful of your brown pupper I pray you can get him... hoping the fenced area will work. Could you leave the house door open and just call everyone in?  |
6Girls wrote: I think physical containment is the best approach. Sedation can have it's problems since you don't know where he goes to sleep... you don't want him to be vulnerable while sedated. And a panicked sedated dog can be dangerous too... as mentioned, meds can have the opposite effect but they may alter a dog's inhibitions. OMG... did I miss this video or is it new??? I only saw the brief one of him walking and the still picture.http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii5 ... uffin2.mp4 From the color just over the nose, thinking he's got some natural brown/cream hues to his coloring. Just a guess of course but I think he can see. He seems matched with your German Shepherd and more respectful of your brown pupper I pray you can get him. Could you leave the house door open and just call everyone in? Yes, the video i just posted a bit ago! See how playful and sweet he can be? My gs was kind of rough on him while playing and even not feeling good, he had a wonderful temperament. I think he is definitely a "muffin"!! And he obviously knows soft mouth. Thank God.As for the front door, I wish... That would be perfect, but as soon as he hears my voice or sees me, he leaves. Sometimes I see him peeking through the trees and undergrowth around the house trying to make sure "the coast is clear" before coming out into the open. Very much a fraidy cat! |
| Love, love, love the play video. He was looking for an invitation from your brown dog but it wasn't coming. If he's in pain from his leg... could even be hip dysplasia if it's coming/going... it could affect how tolerant he is but he seems to be doing real well. It looks like he's interacted at some point with dogs beyond littermates. Quote: but as soon as he hears my voice or sees me, he leaves. Sometimes I see him peeking through the trees and undergrowth around the house trying to make sure "the coast is clear" before coming out into the open. Very much a fraidy cat! Fight/flight response... he prefers fleeing/avoidance to confrontation/conflict.  Sigh... I would be at your house right now if I didn't live in Michigan. I think a lot of us wish we could help. |
Oh my goodness that video is sweet and heart breaking at the same time. Its great to see him playing with your dogs. Thats how my sheepies and labs play also. But to see those mats all over him just kill me. I really wish I lived closer to help you. Im so glad you are determined to stick with it and help this baby.  Im wondering if the mats on that leg are causing his limp. He seems to be more matted on that side. I really hope thats all it is. Glad your dogs have excepted him. Best of luck to you. |
Ryleigh wrote: Im wondering if the mats on that leg are causing his limp. He seems to be more matted on that side. That can happen too! The hair pulls on the skin making it painful to walk. Hoping that's what it is because a shave down and treatment of the skin would fix it. |
6Girls wrote: Ryleigh wrote: Im wondering if the mats on that leg are causing his limp. He seems to be more matted on that side. That can happen too! The hair pulls on the skin making it painful to walk. Hoping that's what it is because a shave down and treatment of the skin would fix it. that was how Ryleigh was. She couldnt lay down or walk comfortably because of all the mats she had. A complete shave down was all she needed and some groceries. |
| I know this sounds crazy, but what if you just laid down in the yard (maybe with some food next to you) and kept real still? Like playing dead. When Brick gets loose, sometimes he'll come back to be when I do that. Sometimes I also whimper while lying down to make him think something is wrong with me. Just spitballing here. |
| I love the new video! He really wants to play!!! It is so wonderful to see that he has an interest in playing with your dogs. I think we all wish we live closer to help. Is there any one on here who lives close to you who might be able to help? We have people active on these forums from around the globe! I check this thread multiple times a day..... just hoping to hear something. Mr. Muffin has certainly captured all of our hearts! |
| I wonder if you might try contacting this group http://www.animalrescuemovement.org/aboutus.htm. According to their website they are a rescue group in Middleburg who rescue any type of animals from shelters and the streets. Maybe they have some resources to help you get this poor guy? I keep checking back on your progress and wish so much that I wasn't so far away......love your new video, he obviously wants to play!! Such a sweetie....wishing you all the best in trying to help this pup! |
| What a nice video You have wonderful dogs but I am very biased when it comes to the german shepherd dog. If you want him to approach and have the time you should sit in the open area with your dogs with something yummy, stay still and see if he approaches When standing up you are dominant to this dog This method takes weeks to get a dog to trust you I so wish you were closer we all would help you!! I do advise contacting that group in your area they may even have a catch pole I know our group does.....I hope the fence works Have a slip lead ready One that tightens up so that once you snag him he cannot pull out of the leash from fear. You can tell this dog has a loving heart Humans must have treated him badly and that is why he is afreid of you so sad. |
4dognight wrote: You can tell this dog has a loving heart Humans must have treated him badly and that is why he is afreid of you so sad. Not necessarily, Cindy. We always want to assume fearfulness must be based on some kind of abuse, but some dogs are just chronically fearful, and, more to the point, I've seen/heard of too many dogs who gave their owners the slip and once loose in an unknown area/confusing situation got so stressed they wouldn't even come to their own owners in some cases. I'm not even 100% sure how my own would react in a really bad situation, such as, horrors, following a bad car accident. I'd like to think they'd come to some nice person offering them food, in fact, I think they would. But I'm not sure. Some dogs, when cornered, can react aggressively out of fear. If you can trap him very carefully and low key most likely it will be fine, but please do be careful and keep in mind his sight limitations, which probably contribute to making the world seem like a scary place. You don't want to get hurt either. Kristine |
| I am new to this thread and have not read all of the posts, but scrolled through some. He looks like a standard poodle/ mix to me, and I have had several, and they do not like to walk over thresholds even to get lured back into the house, even when I called them. It was always a merry chase to get them in. But he is very much friendly and pack mentality, I have watched a ton of rescue videos by Eldad Hagar, they can be viewed at youtube.com/eldad75 He was able to get Shadow ( a stray who had never been with humans and was living at a dump), by using millie ( another dog at the dump who was friends with shadow), as the decoy. ( watch the video if you can... ) here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpufxBhDTE If you do get a fenced in area, and somehow tie your German shepherd inside... he might come in, out of curiousity if he thinks noone is watching. He might not be brave enough to go in on his own, but seeing the dog in there, might give him the courage! I wish for the best possible outcome for you both! |
Las Vegas Sheepie Lover wrote: Here's the rescue contacts for Florida from the rescue section of this forum. Maybe there's someone close by that could maybe assist you getting that fence up or maybe do something to help or maybe provide some valuable advice? Another thought can you place a piece of fabric/clothing with your scent on it under his food bowl. Then maybe he'll associate your scent with good. Just a thought. I wish I lived close I'd come and help you. I really hope you can help that poor dog regardless of what breed he is. FLORIDA WebSite Steve & Candy Pridavka SPrid13450@aol.com OES Rescue of Florida, Inc. 954-434-4970 Worden Willis (Ft.Lauderdale) www_doggie_rescue@yahoo.com 561-674-6289 FINO Doggie Rescue Paul Newton FLOESR@aol.com 727-323-8578 Fiona Bowen (Panhandle only) placement@oesrescuenetwork.org 678-714-6702 http://www.oesrescuenetwork.org not sure if worden is could handle this one they all are 6 hrs away i wish i do what to do this is so sad i will contact worden and candy |
| Hello all, Thank you for all the info and helpful encouragement and suggestions! I was gone most of the day today but have seen Mr. Muffin many times already this afternoon interacting with my dogs. He looks as happy as he can be under the circumstances. he sure is eager to find out what is in his "daily plate"! I am getting to know his preferences. Hates sardines and IAMS biscuits, so-so on Dingos, tolerates Kibbles & Bits & Pedigree Dry but loves Organix, Royal Canine, Pedigree Liver and Beef in the can, Jumbones, dehydrated chicken strips and my own freshly made chicken and beef jerky. My new soon-to-be friend has expensive taste just like my own dogs. hahaha He also didn't 'run" away when he saw me, he just kind of turned away and walked off. He also came up to almost the back door this afternoon sniffing (good sign maybe?) and I did put my own 'stinky' shirt under his food tray as suggested! So maybe we're making a little progress and it won't be so traumatic when I try to cage him. I did watch the video: wendchymes wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpufxBhDTE If you do get a fenced in area, and somehow tie your German shepherd inside... he might come in, out of curiousity if he thinks noone is watching. He might not be brave enough to go in on his own, but seeing the dog in there, might give him the courage! I wish for the best possible outcome for you both! and agree that having the shepherd in there might help lure him in, but if he goes ape somehow, I don't want Kilo in harms way... I will keep it tucked away in my mind though as a possible option. Thank you! The video had such a sweet ending and what a great dog Millie especially turned out to be!! The fence will be completed by Saturday morning, I plan to leave it up Sunday, let him walk thru it a few times and then hopefully Monday or Tuesday I'll be ready to make my move!! I am also going to wait before bringing in anybody else (even if i could find others, which maybe i could from all your helpful leads here, thank you!) and see if i can get him inside the fence using what has turned out to be his own little feeding routine. He has some semblance of comfort here...with a bunch of strangers (even stranger than me!) swooping down on him all of a sudden, may be too much. If I fail, then definitely I will call others in... I just kind of sense this is the right thing to do. So hopeful and so excited!! |
| The plan sounds good! And it sounds like he's seeing you less as a threat from a distance anyway. He's starting to understand you mean him no harm. Ignore him, avoid eye contact when you see him, turn your face away from him if he looks at you or turn sideways so your profile is to him. You might Google dog body language to see if anyone shares how dogs communicate that they mean no harm and try to mimic it. Not sure if dogs will read a human the same way... I'm getting butterflies... stay safe and good luck! |
| If he's getting braver about coming up to the back door, is there any way you could just leave it open? Maybe he'll just come in the house. Wouldn't that be nice. |
| I wouldn't put panacur or heartgard into his food, I'd think he needs to be tested before wormers are used. We're rooting for you!!! |
Ron wrote: I wouldn't put panacur or heartgard into his food, I'd think he needs to be tested before wormers are used. We're rooting for you!!! Oh no, I would never, ever, do that. That could easily kill him. I was talking about a prescription de-wormer that someone at the vets office mentioned that you put in his food. But I decided to just wait til I can capture him (assuming that was soon), because he would be tested for everything then and treated specifically anyway. |
| This morning I am a little nervous again because I had to shoot a huge water moccasin right where I have had him coming to be fed every night, near the fence area. Just as I put his tray down, about 5 feet away I saw the snake. I had no choice but to shoot him with a shotgun. We live on the water and being surrounded with woods, it's fairly common to see them but this one had to go or all the dogs (and us) would be in danger. It made me sick because I heard Mr. Muffin bark once at the first shot and he was nearby. I shot the snake 2 more times and never heard him bark again either time so that tells me he was either cowering in fear or he scooted away. Knowing him as i have gotten to, I think he would have scooted away. I put his tray down a little further away than normal because I felt sure a dog could smell the blood and gun powder, hoping that would help him feel a bit safer if he came back last night. This morning the food was halfway gone, but the dog bone remained, which tells me his food probably was eaten by possums or racoons, not by him. I am just sick over this. So much work, tip-toeing around outside, talking in low voices, etc....and now this set back. I put his food out again this morning, so I will try to keep my eye open for him but today we are planning to do fence and yard cleanup there for him, making it all worse. I have strong arms here today and so need to get the help while I can. I am a firm believer that God has a plan for all of us, even our furry creatures, and so have to believe that me seeing and shooting the snake was in His plan. Perhaps Mr. Muffin would have gotten bitten while coming up to eat, or us doing yard clean up there today or my dogs while playing...but it makes me sad all the same to think I scared him. I know you guys are "in" this with me all the way, so I just had to share. I will update. |
| hi muffin's mom, the circle of life can be such a jerk some days. hopefully with his limp, he didn't go far. if you can, get your dogs to do some playful barking today. will be helpful if he can hear them. i like the way you've been thinking. a girl with a gun who knows how to use it.    |
| Hi Mr Muffin's Mom! I'm sorry about the set back today! Keep your head up! We're all rooting for you and Mr Muffin!!!!! |
| You did what you had to; hopefully hunger will win out over fear, which could end up being a big step for your Muffin-man! Good luck; I know we're all reading and praying for this to work out! |
| YAY!! He did come back and has been trying to come and eat but my dogs have been out because I thought they would go find him! I think they maybe did have a hand in him coming back around He won't come in the yard while we're working on it, understandably, but I am so so glad he's sticking around! He is obviously a hungry boy!! I just put the doggies up so his tray could go down and I think we're going to take a break soon too. In the quiet maybe he'll come on up to the house to eat... Thank GOD he's back. |
  YOU ARE AWESOME!!! |
| YOU ARE TRULY AMAZING! |
| YAY!!!! It sounds like Mr Muffin is starting to trust you a little! All fingers and paws crossed that your capture attempt will work and you will have a new friend for life!! Can't wait to hear how it goes!! |
| WOW. It's all of YOU guys who are so awesome!! Thank you for being there for us!! |
| muffin's mom, i luv how environmentally conscious you are. you didn't just shoot the snake, you mulched him. ashes to ashes, dust to dust. |
YIPPEE!!!  |
guest56 wrote: muffin's mom, i luv how environmentally conscious you are. you didn't just shoot the snake, you mulched him. ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Awww, I hated to even have to shoot the snake. But we have to take care of those we love. If an intruder broke into our home, I would defend my family, no matter what it took...shooting the snake who was obviously hanging out where my "family" plays had to happen too. A better person might have trapped the snake and taken him off. But they are deadly and I had to move quickly I felt. I am afraid of them myself and would never attempt to try and catch them. Yes, even snakes have a right to life. I hope nobody here is offended... |
| nope, you had to protect the muffinman and family. i just figured after 3 shotgun blasts you didn't have any carcass to deal with. i have them at my place on the water, i tell them to hide when company comes. i also yell at them when they eat my baby bird friends, but such is the circle of life. |
guest56 wrote: nope, you had to protect the muffinman and family. i just figured after 3 shotgun blasts you didn't have any carcass to deal with. i have them at my place on the water, i tell them to hide when company comes. i also yell at them when they eat my baby bird friends, but such is the circle of life. I agree! It's hard for me to watch nature films that depict the food chain, but you are right... it's the circle of life. |
| HE'S BACK and eating again Only problem is, now he's spoiled! I started making a fresh batch of chicken and beef round strips in the food dehydrator because they smell so strong when they start drying out for the first 5 - 6 hours. And I moved the dehydrator to that side of the house near an open window, hoping the smell would drift outside and help lure him back. It wasn't 15 minutes and I saw him stepping up the path, the nose started twitching and sniffing the air, and he went right over to his tray and water I just put down in the new area we just cleared out from the underbrush. That surprised me because I didn't really know if he would like anything "new" in his environment, but he was hungry! Funny thing is, he only ate the meat strips and a piece of liverwurst, leaving everything else on his plate. hahaha Yep, already getting spoiled rotten I love it! So I went out and filled it up with more! My emotions have been all over the place these past couple of weeks...and not a dull moment. I hope I can get him soon so we can both relax! |
| I am so nervous for this to be over too! I want to see the happy after pics of the Muffin man. If you are on facebook, might you consider making a page for Mr. Muffin? And I do not know if this is the right place to post, but I shared the video yesterday with you, of the dog rescuer Eldad Hagar. He does amazing work, and has helped to capture hundreds of strays in Ca, and even travelled to Arizona for some. He has a group called Hopeforpaws.org and has over 140 videos of his rescues on you tube at youtube.com/eldad75 anyway, lots of people, ( including myself) have been so inspired by what Eldad is doing. It has renewed my faith in humanity to see just how many people do care about the forgotten, lost, hurt, abandoned animals, like Mr.Muffin. and I started a petition to try and get national recognition for this Rescue group to go on the Ellen show. I think it is a perfect fit and it would help show people that abandoned animals and even ones at shelters deserve a second chance. Please consider signing, here is the link... Please watch the video, embedded in this petition if you have not already, and then sign and share. And if you can please keep asking your friends to sign.. like I keep bugging mine http://www.change.org/petitions/the-ell ... ellen-show Thanks, Wendy |
wendchymes wrote: I am so nervous for this to be over too! I want to see the happy after pics of the Muffin man. If you are on facebook, might you consider making a page for Mr. Muffin? Please watch the video, embedded in this petition if you have not already, and then sign and share. And if you can please keep asking your friends to sign.. like I keep bugging mine http://www.change.org/petitions/the-ell ... ellen-show Thanks, Wendy Hi Wendy! I just now signed. Thank you!! I do not have a FB page for pleasure...just business. You have given me a reason to do one though. All for the Mr. Muffins of the world...and there is too many. Even one, is too many. |
| re: signing the petition, thank you so much! I have just started becoming so much more involved in animal rescue groups, on facebook, and it is a huge networking place. And there are way to many sad stories, and Mr.Muffin, is going to have a happy ending, I just know. He has someone who loves him and a whole host of fans already! |
wendchymes wrote: re: signing the petition, thank you so much! I have just started becoming so much more involved in animal rescue groups, on facebook, and it is a huge networking place. And there are way to many sad stories, and Mr.Muffin, is going to have a happy ending, I just know. He has someone who loves him and a whole host of fans already! Yay! He's a star! I will tell him!!Best of luck in your venture Wendy!! |
| Boy, I have total respect for you being a snaker shooter. I am jealous that you know how to shoot, and apparently you have good aim! I hope Mr. Muffin continues to get braver and braver and eventually comes to you. He should know the joy of being loved. |
6Girls wrote: Sigh... I would be at your house right now if I didn't live in Michigan. I think a lot of us wish we could help. 100% true that!!! Haven't gotten to the last post but boy, is that video sweet and sad. You're patience is amazing. Thank you so much for helping this baby! |
| Hi, I haven't piped up until now as it was only this evening I became aware of this story. I'm also sending positive thoughts to Muffin and wanted to tell you how wonderful I think you are!!!! I know it's difficult as you have your two dogs but I agreed with the posters who mentioned that perhaps you can make yourself as unatrusive as possible (seating position) some distance away so that Muffin becomes accustomed to you. One of my boys(Panda) had some of the charactertistics of Muffin when he arrived at my home and I would sit for hours in close proximaty to him so that eventually it was his choice to approach me. Eventually I won his trust. I know you have a life and finding the time to do that is time consuming but oh the reward will be amazing if Muffin can be caught. I'll be thinking of this brave soul tonight as well as thanking you for stepping up to the plate when it's obvious others haven't. There are amazing people on this site as you've found out. Because of them 2 of my 4 dogs had a second chance at life. I pray Muffin will be able to also have that chance. Please keep us posted. I also wish I lived closer as I'd be there in a heartbeat. So while I live thousands of miles away - please know that my heart is with you. Marianne |
| It's fence day today right??? I hope things go well. I know everyone is on edge waiting to hear the results!  |
| WOW I just found this and read straight through. Positive thoughts to you and Mr. Muffin. Brought tears to see the video of him waking into your yard. What a sin. I think you are awesome for trying so hard and carefully to gain his trust. I will keep reading and looking forward to the happy pictures to come |
| Hoping today is the day. Best of luck! Will be waiting for an update. |
| I'm so nervous I can't wait to hear how things are going today. Lisa Frankie and Mattie |
| wishing you good luck for a great outcome today! |
| Hi all, Well, the fence will not be finished today. Hubby had to go into work. But I am not too discouraged because it's good for Mr. muffin to get used to seeing "new things" in his turf i think. The last thing i would want is him to be spooked off, or all of a suddent find a fence blocking his route to the house he's not expecting. I have found where he is bedding down in the woods and in fact have gotten somewhat close to him there. but he still casually walks off when I cross his imaginary line. But that's okay too because when he walks off, he walks straight up to the house and eats what i have put out for him. Today (and yesterday) I went as quietly as possible through the underbrush and cooed at him, then left him 'treats" there. I know he is getting used to my scent. As many of you have stressed, I want him to associate good smells with the good human. So it's not Victory day yet, but he is getting fed well and getting comfy again. I am so anxious for the day i can hopefully love all over him!! I have an SUV that I have taken the back seats out of and have foam bedding back there covered in sheets; filled with dog toys, water bowl, etc. because the dogs travel everywhere with me... Hubby says I will soon have to buy a camper just for the '3' dogs (addition of Mr. Muffin) to pull behind the car! (Hmmm, getting ideas Do all of you travel with your pets?? We always stay at pet friendly hotels when we go out of town... I will keep you all updated and thanks again!! |
| I travel quite a bit with our two sheepdogs. In fact, we are considering a third dog, and a bigger car! |
| Thank You for updating, have been on pins and needles! Got my sister, who is a groomer in Florida following the story as well, we will all feel better when he is safe and gets his much overdue bath! But glad he is well fed ! I re watched the video again, and I am standing by my prediction, that he is a poodle, and that he is relatively young Because of how he acts with your other dog, will be interesting to see what he is underneath all of that fur! I am guessing he will look just like my dog did when shaved down, he will look shockingly smaller! Hahah Do you know for fact it is a male? Curious if he has been altered, as well. Good Luck, will check back. Best, Wendy |
| I am also anxiously following this rescue story. We travel with three dogs(one Golden and two Sheepies) and two cats. A year ago, I gave up my Mustang for an SUV, to haul them to the lake and back. We even made a carpet-covered, foldable board for the mid-section of the SUV that keeps the dogs from falling into cracks and crevices between the middle row seats. |
| Hoping you and he get together soon! |
| Regarding your question if I travel with my pets. I have 2 Aussie Shepherds and 1 Oes and I bought a minivan just so I could cart us all around together. I take the girls out in the van as often as I can. They love riding in the van to the bank, McDonalds or frankly any fast food place. They've gotten to be known around town as the lady with the bear...lol People thought Asia, Tri Aussie was a bear. She's not, just my co-pilot. Looking forward to the day Muffin is "home" for good. |
| I am so glad to have found you all!! I thought I was "odd" to want my doggies with me all the time...and like you guys, I don't go anywhere without them with me. They love to ride too and I am so hoping Mr. Muffin likes it also. I could never leave one behind. |
| we also travel with our 3 kids and 3 dogs- 2 labs and 1 sheepie. We have a Yukon XL- suburban. We also have a travel trailer that we go on vacations and and they come along. Looking to upgrade to a fifth wheel though, husband has to get a bigger truck first. My dogs all love camping. |
Ryleigh wrote: we also travel with our 3 kids and 3 dogs- 2 labs and 1 sheepie. We have a Yukon XL- suburban. We also have a travel trailer that we go on vacations and and they come along. Looking to upgrade to a fifth wheel though, husband has to get a bigger truck first. My dogs all love camping. You're not ever afraid they'll run off when you go camping? Mine would get a scent of deer or something and take off I am certain of it. I bought a GPS collar tracker for my german shepherd, and it gives me so much peace of mind. He wears it all the time. But I doubt it would work well without a strong satellite signal... Hopefully I will be able to eventually trust Mr. Muffin out of a fenced in area too...and a GPS tracker will definitely be on him! |
| Thank you so much for keeping us updated. I'm finding myself checking here daily for any news. for his safe rescue. You truly are his angel! |
jcc9797 wrote: Thank you so much for keeping us updated. I'm finding myself checking here daily for any news. for his safe rescue. You truly are his angel!I keep checking too. Rooting for you to get this guy caught and taken care of before something bad happens to him. He needs some loving intervention for sure, and he seems like such a worthy guy |
| As far as camping with my dogs, I keep them on a leash or hooked to a long cable when we are outside. Only my yellow lab can be off leash. She is the only one who listens. |
| We are finishing fence today! Trying to beat the rains that are heading this way. Dog house is now inside fenced area... More later! |
sad_stray_finder wrote: We are finishing fence today! Trying to beat the rains that are heading this way. Dog house is now inside fenced area... More later! |
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sad_stray_finder wrote: We are finishing fence today! Trying to beat the rains that are heading this way. Dog house is now inside fenced area... More later! Yay!! |
| WE HAVE HIM IN THE FENCE!!!! More later |
| Good luck!!!!!!! Lisa Frankie and Mattie |
sad_stray_finder wrote: WE HAVE HIM IN THE FENCE!!!! More later Really!!! Good luck!!! |
sad_stray_finder wrote: WE HAVE HIM IN THE FENCE!!!! More later WOW!!!! That was QUICK! You're Awesome!!! so how's he taking it? Is he okay? What's the plan from here? I'm so excited for you! |
| YAY!! Keep us posted!!! |
| holding breath........ |
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| OH MY GOODNESS!!!! Hoping all is going well.......... I will be checking back!!!! This is by far the best news today! I hope Mr. Muffin is doing OK. We are all routing for you. |
| Fantastic news! |
| yipeeee!!! |
| Woot! I can't wait to hear details! Congrats! |
| I'm going crazy over here!!!! |
| don't be so worried, the holdup is negotiations. muffin luvs his new mom. how could he not, did ya read that menu?? he doesn't want a bath, he thinks he smells just fine. |
| I have goosebumps waiting to hear. |
| So far so good. I hope everything else goes that well. Thank you for being so patient with him and thinking it all through so well. I think it is wonderful that all of us on here have sort of "adopted him" We are all in your cheering section. Keep us posted. Carley's Mom |
| Yay! Can't wait to hear more! |
| Hope all goes well! Looking forward to updates! |
| Hi everybody! Sorry this has taken so long. It has been a veery long day... But it is wonderful to have Mr. Muffin contained at last. And he is doing fine. Okay... We decided to forgo chain link and go with like a hog fence, so we could make his area bigger, not knowing how long he would be in it. Not the most beautiful in the world, but he has a pretty large area to roam in now. Most of it is in the woods so he will feel more "at home" in the beginning. We moved his dog house we built over into it hoping once he settles down he will actually get in it. Then we put two tarps over the outside so he has a big "tent" area to get under out of the rains if he doesn't want to go in the house. Bookoos of rains - storms - headed in tonight and over the next few days so he should be dry(er) anyway. Okay, what you're all wanting to know is how did he get fenced so fast, right? Well, he actually did it himself I had left the yard to go get more fence stakes at Tractor Supply and Walmart for dog treats, when hubby called and told me Mr. Muffin was in the fence! Seems hubby was working on building the gate when from the other side of the fenced area he hadn't closed off yet, Mr. Muffin just walked right on in and started sniffing his dog house. Hubby said he couldn't believe it! So he quickly ran around and through out house to sneak out the front door and pull the fence together on the open end Mr. Muffing walked through and captured him! So we've been racing to finish it before dark, making it secure and dry for him. He is now in the fenced area, with his food tray, loaded with goodies, hoping he will not feel too scared and sad during the night being trapped. but I feel so much better at least giving him a chance to get out of the rainstorms headed this way. He has new bones, rawhide, chicken jerky, his dry food, canned food, rugs to lie on a dog house if he wants to get in it and tarps to cover him on the outside if not. We are both exhausted. We didn't stop to eat since early breakfast all day and we worked in the rain all day. So it's hot tea and hot showers tonight! Mr. Muffin looked almost resigned to his fate after being trapped. He never raised cain, just kind of walked all around then sat and laid down. It's obvious he doesn't feel good. I hope with all of my heart he does not have heartworms. Anything else can be treated. And if he has heartworms, that maybe can be, depending on how advance, and how strong he is. But I don't want to jinx anything, so i will stay positive until we get the word. As for our next move, tomorrow I am going to the vets early and seeing if i can convince him to come over as soon as possible and knock him out to transport up there to the clinic. He does have a collar on him by the way. Go figure. That really ticks me off. Nobody has been looking for him, that's for sure. Thanks for caring!!!! I will keep updating everyone!! |
| Great job! I'm so glad to hear he's now contained. |
| I was worried about a collar under all that hair. Hope it isn't going into his neck. Great job so far. Hope tomorrow is more good news. |
| yippee for you and hubby!!! |
| you are awesome! good luck tomorrow with the vet experience! I hope all goes well. |
| You and your husband are very special people to be doing this for a dog you don't even know. Like everyone else, I check this thread every time I log on, holding my breath each time hoping for good news. I can't wait until Mr. Muffin gets closer health attention and am so grateful to you guys for giving him a chance. |
Mady wrote: You and your husband are very special people to be doing this for a dog you don't even know. Like everyone else, I check this thread every time I log on, holding my breath each time hoping for good news. I can't wait until Mr. Muffin gets closer health attention and am so grateful to you guys for giving him a chance. well said took the words right from me,, you are my heros |
| Thank you for all your kind remarks, but we really aren't so special... There have been so many times that our dogs seem to be the only "pure" things, good things, in our lives and we are so grateful to be able to have them. Dogs are always faithful, loving (when given half a chance!), they want to be with you and if you win their trust, they would lick your hand even when they themselves are in pain. We are the ones blessed to be loved and needed by our furry friends. I have been out hiding in the shadows to try and see what Mr. Muffin does when nobody is nearby. I can hear him howling, barking, howling from inside the house...and I have watched him walk around and around the perimeter. I know he is trying hard to find a way out. I just pray we have enough rebar holding the fence down so he can't dig out. He is a master at burrowing and the Florida ground is very sandy. Hubby says on a scale of 1 to 10, it's about a 6 that he will still be in the fence come morning. UGH. I doubt I will be sleeping a whole lot! |
| Great job guys!! Hope that Mr. Muffin gets a good bill of health by the vet. Will you be having the vet scan him for a chip? Did you try going into the fenced area with him? |
Guest wrote: Thank you for all your kind remarks, but we really aren't so special... There have been so many times that our dogs seem to be the only "pure" things, good things, in our lives and we are so grateful to be able to have them. Dogs are always faithful, loving (when given half a chance!), they want to be with you and if you win their trust, they would lick your hand even when they themselves are in pain. We are the ones blessed to be loved and needed by our furry friends. I have been out hiding in the shadows to try and see what Mr. Muffin does when nobody is nearby. I can hear him howling, barking, howling from inside the house...and I have watched him walk around and around the perimeter. I know he is trying hard to find a way out. I just pray we have enough rebar holding the fence down so he can't dig out. He is a master at burrowing and the Florida ground is very sandy. Hubby says on a scale of 1 to 10, it's about a 6 that he will still be in the fence come morning. UGH. I doubt I will be sleeping a whole lot! Can you & your husband alternate getting up every couple of hours to throw treats out to him? Maybe that will keep him quiet. |
| Wow--you guys are awesome! Mr. Muffin is a very lucky guy and he doesn't even know it yet! Thank you so much for being so diligent. You are truly his angels and he will someday know just that. Hope that he does stay contained and you can actually get the vet out to give him some help and relief! Saying a special prayer for you-your husband and Mr. Muffin tonight. You are a hero! |
| Can you call an emergency vet to see if they could come out tonight? |
| Wonderful news ...and too bad this was a SUNDAY and no vet could come out. I am that he will still be contained until tomorrow and you can get him some help!! |
| Such good news for Mr. Muffin staying inside the fence and  to you all for going above and beyond caring for this boy. |
| Yeah!! You are both awsome. I hope he stays in and you can get a vet out tomorrow. I am praying that all goes well and he is able to get clean and healthy. Carley's Mom |
| Well we all survived our very first night. Mr. Muffin is still in the fence, the neighbors didn't call the police over his barking, howling and hubby is still out like a light, so all is good so far (Just kidding about the police. Thankfully trees and distance separate him from other houses) I had to rooolll out of bed this morning. Owww. Used muscles I haven't used in a while struggling with the fence. So I will let you guys know how vet appt. goes. I am worried about the cost truthfully. For us, this could not have come at a worse time. I hope the vet lets us work something out. Being that Mr. Muffin is a stray, he may have some ideas - and a big heart. Will update, with pictures, later!! |
| Please let us know what cost are...maybe set up an online account so some of us that can help can donate. There are many folks pulling for him and want to see him get the care he deserves...thank you for all you have done to help him. |
| I just had a thought... Does anybody here know how to set up a rescue donation so any proceeds can go straight to the vets office? I am thinking if i approach him with a "plan" for payment, he will be more inclined to help, rather than asking him to just let us make payments, which means he is actually financing Mr. Muffins care. He will probably not want to do that, understandably. I have never done anything like this before, so any ideas will be so appreciated! |
lhall15 wrote: Please let us know what cost are...maybe set up an online account so some of us that can help can donate. There are many folks pulling for him and want to see him get the care he deserves...thank you for all you have done to help him. Our posts crossed!! Thank you for taking the words right out of my mouth. The only way I know to do it would be through Paypal but that seems kind of creepy. I will ask the vet if he knows this too. Thank you! |
| Yay!!! So eager for him to get to the vets and get care and cleaned up! Definitely create a chip in, that can do direct pay to vet's office even, they do them on Facebook all of the time to help rescue animal's get the care they need! If muffin had collar hopefully he is used to walking on leash but may want to halter him so there is no chance of him slipping collar, until he gets used to life with you guys! Will keep checking back for updates! It will bring a great start to my week to know he is being cared for ! We all thank you for what you have done for him! |
| Yes, the chip in is usually thru paypal !and goes directly to vet , who will know it is muffins ACcount. I am sure you can google how to set it up, I have contributed to them in the past , it is quite easy to make payment. |
Wendchymes wrote: Yes, the chip in is usually thru paypal !and goes directly to vet , who will know it is muffins ACcount. I am sure you can google how to set it up, I have contributed to them in the past , it is quite easy to make payment. Thank you Wendy. I will google it. Now i am going to get ready for the vet visit. I want to be up there at 7:45 (they open at Will update everyone soon! |
| Can't see me til 11:40... |
| Fingers crossed!!!!! |
| Due to the fact I do NOT own a computer and only have access to the one at work, I was soooooo excited to read Mr. Muffin was safely contained!! I was thinking about you all weekend and hoping for good news! I have tears running down my face. I LOVE Happy beginning endings.You and your hubby are beyond AWESOME!!!!! Looking forward to updates amd pictures!! Love to you all AND your wonderful dogs too, for taking good care of Muffin |
| I'm worried about Mr Muffin having a collar-- is it possible he'll have to be turned over to a neglectful owner if the collar has ID tags? I mean of course its possible that Mr. Muffin got away and his owner has been worried sick- maybe he traveled a long way from home, or escaped while his family was traveling, and they couldn't track him down. I guess what I'm asking is what happens if Mr. Muffin's collar reveals his origins? |
| Wonderful!!! You and hubby, and your sweet dogs have done something AMAZING!! with the vet appt today!! |
| That's what I was kinda hinting at Allison. What if he has a chip? Seems to me that any ethical vet would make every attempt to contact the owners listed on the tag or programmed on the chip. Yeah, it could have been a neglectful owner. But what if it's not? What if it's a family that's devastated from losing their dog? Is a vet obligated (morally or even legally) to follow up on the info on the tag or in the chip? Whatever happens, I hope Mr. Muffin gets all the vet care he needs and ends up in a loving home, whether it's his original family or with a new family. Fingers crossed for a good outcome. |
Darth Snuggle wrote: I'm worried about Mr Muffin having a collar-- is it possible he'll have to be turned over to a neglectful owner if the collar has ID tags? I mean of course its possible that Mr. Muffin got away and his owner has been worried sick- maybe he traveled a long way from home, or escaped while his family was traveling, and they couldn't track him down. I guess what I'm asking is what happens if Mr. Muffin's collar reveals his origins? I believe she said that he didn't have a collar. Unless I misread... I'm sure that Mr Muffin will be scanned for a chip at the vet. It seems that Mr Muffin's "guardian angel" is responsible and do what is best for the dog. |
sad_stray_finder wrote: He does have a collar on him by the way. Go figure. That really ticks me off. Nobody has been looking for him, that's for sure. |
| Hope all goes well with the vet! |
Darth Snuggle wrote: sad_stray_finder wrote: He does have a collar on him by the way. Go figure. That really ticks me off. Nobody has been looking for him, that's for sure. OH! Oops, must have missed that one! Thanks Allison! |
| Good luck today! They'll likely scan him for a chip, check for a tag. The owner should be contacted if information is found to see if they want to reclaim their dog and pay for care. Wendchymes wrote: Yes, the chip in is usually thru paypal !and goes directly to vet , The funds will go directly to the vet if he/she has a Paypal account and their account is used for the ChipIn. I've only seen ChipIns setup through individuals or rescues but have not been involved in a large number of them. This is the way I've seen ChipIns work best... 1. Get an estimate for required care. 2. Set up the ChipIn. 3. Tell the public what will happen with any excess funds collected. 4. Keep the public updated on the dog's progress. 5. Also keep all receipts should someone request an accounting. When treatment is completed, provide a bill total. Doing it this way will encourage people to give again. |
| I'd suggest holding off on any fund raising for now. IF Mr. Muffin has a collar or chip, and IF his owners are found, they'll need to pay for his care, not our wonderful Good Samaritan. |
| Exactly! |
Darth Snuggle wrote: sad_stray_finder wrote: He does have a collar on him by the way. Go figure. That really ticks me off. Nobody has been looking for him, that's for sure. And, actually we can't know that. Have local vets and shelters been contacted? (not that there hasn't been more important things to worry about, like catching him - just saying) What if he's travelled a greater distance than one would think possible? Or owners are desperately searching for Mix X and nobody knows what that really looks like, plus he probably doesn't much look like what he looked like when he hit the road for whatever reason. Yes, I think there is an ethical responsibilty to follow up if he has tags or a chip. At least that's what I hope someone would do if, god forbid, this was my dog. And not just assume I'm a horrible, abusive person, you know? It could be moot, but if he has ID, his owners deserve to be notified. And handed the vet bills. If they can be located and disown him, that's a different issue. Kristine |
| Just about the importance of checking for an owner... advertisements in the cases below.... I trapped a cat several years ago and found an ad in the newspaper. I called and the people quickly came over to see if she was theirs... she was reunited with her family. She had been missing for 6 weeks and had traveled several miles. But I think this ad says it all about first trying to locate an owner. I think this boy escaped from a new owner... they haven't stopped trying to find him. http://southjersey.craigslist.org/laf/2835656779.html |
| We travel a lot, and have to kennel the girls when we do so. What if while we were away, the girls got out of the kennel? What if they ran away while there? It's an hours drive from our home; I doubt they'd find their way back. They could end up lost, and in a pretty short time, looking as bad as Mr. Muffin. and I would hope that if some kind soul found them, no matter how badly they looked, that they would contact me. So I think we have to consider the possibility that Mr. Muffin might not be neglected; he might be very much loved but also very lost. |
| I agree with Allison on this one. Let's hold off on the chip-in until we know what's up with the owners of the dog. If the owner(s) of the dog want nothing to do with him, then I think we'd all be in for helping our good Samaritan, just like Kristine said. |
That craigslist post is SO SAD!  |
I had to work all weekend and couldn't check on Mr Muffin's situation but was so glad to see that the fence was a success. This is the best website ever and what a great group of people it brings together all for their love of sheepies and dogs in general. that the vet appointment goes well. Were they coming out to the house to sedate and then to the office??? I hope they are able to shave him down so they can give him a good once over. great work and I hope things work out for Mr Muffin.  can't wait for the update |
| I want popcorn now! I had a cat named Mr. Marbles (it was a girl)  I love the name Mr. Muffin. |
| haha I just read what I wrote makes me think of this kid... here is a video while we wait on an update on Mr. Muffin. |
| Mr. Muffin! Mr. Muffin! Mr. Muffin! Just checking in...... I'm sure it will be a long day for Mr. Muffin and you and your hubby of course! |
6Girls wrote: Just about the importance of checking for an owner... advertisements in the cases below.... I trapped a cat several years ago and found an ad in the newspaper. I called and the people quickly came over to see if she was theirs... she was reunited with her family. She had been missing for 6 weeks and had traveled several miles. But I think this ad says it all about first trying to locate an owner. I think this boy escaped from a new owner... they haven't stopped trying to find him. http://southjersey.craigslist.org/laf/2835656779.html My sister lost her cat back Thanksgiving 2010 in Chesterfield Twp Michigan and she is still looking for her. So many owners don't giveup. |
| Hello all, Okay, back from meeting with Dr. Craig Price. What a great man who truly loves animals. (http://www.blackcreekvet.com) Here is the plan: He is planning to come as soon as he possibly can to assess Mr. Muffin's skin condition to see if a slip collar can go on his neck without hurting him. Its impossible for me to tell what condition his skin is in under all of that matted fur. I do not want to hurt him further if his skin is raw or damaged around his neck and it is impossible for me to tell at this point and i am not a doctor. So he is going to see what he can and make a decision as to whether or not he needs to be "completely" sedated - asleep - to transport. Perhaps a little pain medication might do the trick...perhaps he can be led on a leash...we don't yet know. After he gets him up there, he will do all the blood work, grooming, and treat from there. He is going to set up a way to accept donations in Mr. Muffin's name, either through telephone or through his website. He was having the office staff look in to that. I will know more about that later. Regardless, he is willing to work with me by postponing payments for a little bit and not withhold care in the meanwhile, which was my biggest concern for Mr. Muffin. This way we can get started getting him what he needs. I asked Dr. Price to make a list of what he "knows" he will need in a medical work-up, including grooming. of course the rest will have to be addressed as it comes up during examination. I did read your comments and concerns over ownership, and i hate to say it, but i agree. It is "theoretically" possible his owners have been looking for him but he would have had to travel a looong way to be lost as I have posted him on petfinder and no responses. be that as it may, if it can be proven beyond a doubt that he in fact does belong to a family, through a chip or tag we haven't seen, it is only right he be returned...with all of the vet bills AND the cost of the fencing we had to incur. I believe any court in the land would agree with that! Since Dr. Price is willing to let it go til we get started treating him, we will know that immediately, so it would of course be best to hold off on any donations until we know what we're dealing with, all the way around. It may be a day or two before we can actually get Mr. Muffin to the vets, depending on what Dr. Price sees. Buit he is safe and sound... and in fact: I think the video I posted this morning on Photobucket will make you all feel better!! What a sweet baby he is! He is an escape artist for sure. if you watch the video to the end you will see a big cinder block I had to quickly put in a hole he was digging under the fence. I have since gone back to Home Depot for more rebar to strengthen the fence! Keep in mind, this was him just a few hours after he was captured! Here's the link: http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii5 ... inDay1.mp4 And everyone... THANK YOU!!!! You are all just awesome. I can't say thank you enough. I am still just overwhelmed by your love and generosity. It takes my breath away and I feel so humbled. |
| that is a great video. Looks like he was running over to see you at the end. Now that he is in the fence it looks like he isnt to scared of people. He might even let you put a leash on him and get in car and go to vets without a fuss. Id say that is very encouraging!!! |
| Is the Golden yours too? |
| Oh that video made me have tears at work! What a sweetie I thought I saw a sheepie smile when he looked over at you. Well I say you tamed the beast I bet he will feel so wonderful shaved down. Can you imagine how heavy that coat is and the mats pulling at his poor skin. What a sin. What a wonderful thing you are doing. |
Ryleigh wrote: Is the Golden yours too? No, it's a neighbors dog who comes over to play with our dogs every morning Our house seems to be "the hangout" |
| He looked so happy with your husband rubbing his head. I think he was looking for petting from you as well. What a sweetheart. I can hardly wait to see that boy clean. Thank you for all you've done for Muffin. You are an angel. |
 he's ready to go for a ride with you and the vet, no problem. muffin's mom, ask dr. price if he's required to call owners or we can check them out 1st. |
| It's amazing to see the transformation from what you described. |
| i do no about you guys but he sure looks like a oes to me .and young looks how white his teeth look poor guy i am sure his dirty fur and mats are killin him .good work to both of you |
| Mr. Muffin looks very friendly. His tail was wagging. That's a good sign. Hell, I'd bring him into the house & give him a bath and someplace warm & dry. I bet he'd accept a collar & leash no problem. Leash him up, stick him in the car, and bring him to the vet. |
CamVal1 wrote: Mr. Muffin looks very friendly. His tail was wagging. That's a good sign. Hell, I'd bring him into the house & give him a bath and someplace warm & dry. I bet he'd accept a collar & leash no problem. Leash him up, stick him in the car, and bring him to the vet. sounds good but remember how long he has been on the run. i think having the vet come out is the best way |
| Are your dogs going in the fenced area to play with Mr. Muffin? I think he needs lots of attention and play time from your furkids What lucky dogs! Great job with the fence!!!! And very smart putting it by the woods. Hope there are no more snakes! YUCK!!! (hate any kind of snake) THIS STORY IS CONTINUED HERE: Sad sad stray in Middleburg FL Part 2 |
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