Is it wrong to think this?
 She's had lots of puppies and she has earned her retirement. But I know what a good mum she is and I really know what spectacular puppies she makes.  So I'm just feeling a bit sad about it. And I know it's silly, but I feel bad that we can't ask her for her opinion, maybe she'd love to be a mum again. I know, I know, silly thoughts. Still. My brain, sometimes.  |
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| David this is what a breeder once explained to me. Think how old Virginia is in dog years. Most women (not all, don't mean to sterotype) do not want more children at her age. They don't have the same level of patience that they once had when having puppies. I know that Virginia is very good with Gracie and Mady but Gracie is the only puppy she needs to deal with not an entire litter of puppies. When the breeder explained in this way, I thought your right it is time for them to sit back relax and enjoy the rest of their life. |
| Virginia has done her part for her bobtail family. Sad she isn't going to have any more pups...well....no...it would be sad if she had never had the opportunity to pass on her wonderful genes! Please do not think I am saying all dogs need to contribute to the improvement of the bobtail breed. (If they did it would NOT be an improvement) This makes me think of all the plans Carl and I had in regards to our "pack". We did alot of research into bloodlines and determined what we needed to start our kennel. We planned Virgil's daughter Dawn, and at one point had wanted to breed her to our Martin. Now Martin is gone and Dawn will never have pups due to our circumstances, her age and the fact that she HAD to be spayed last year to save her life. My Penelope (name of this breeding's keeper pup) will never be. Sad would be the puppies that could have been. Go hug Virginia's contribution to the gene pool when you get home. Thoughts and prayers with Virginia for a safe surgery and a fast and healthy recovery. |
| haha, it's not like all her puppies come back to visit to show their gratitude. She's probably excited about this. She can have fun w/no responsibilities now. |
 Why do you spay her? I just do that if the dog is ill and the vet says I need to for her health. Just curious. |
| Well since virginia is yours now, the responsibility of 7-12 or more puppies would be on you. Gracie×10. Im sure 1 is enough. She has puppies out there now taking on being a mom that will pass down all her lovely traits. |
AnInnocentEvil wrote: Well since virginia is yours now, the responsibility of 7-12 or more puppies would be on you. Gracie×10. Im sure 1 is enough. She has puppies out there now taking on being a mom that will pass down all her lovely traits. Oh yeah, either way, she is done with puppies!  We certainly were not going to breed her!! It's just makes me melancholy how final this makes it. |
| Ok, think of it this way...if she had more puppies, how the heck would you be able to part with them? |
| Just because she won't have more puppies doesn't mean her "mothering instinct" will go away. It may even show up in unexpected ways. I had a neutered male who wasn't crazy about other animals. At one point, it seemed I had a constant stream of abandoned kittens coming through the house to be bottle fed, and Max suddenly turned into "Mr. Mom." If a kitten got too vocal, or got big enough to stumble out of the box, he'd pick it up by the scruff, nestle it close to his chest, and nuzzle it until it got quiet. Virginia has her big girl Mady, and her little girl Gracie, and she'll probably be the best nursemaid you ever knew when you or Kim catch cold.  |
I think I understand. I spayed Sybil right before Christmas. I never intended to breed her, I kept her intact for health reasons as long as I could until it really started interferring with her agility trialing (you can't run bitches in season in this country  ) But somehow cutting out those reproductive organs made it so damnable final and irrevokable and that made me sad. Go figure. There is a sense of loss, yes. It's hard to explain. Of course, in Virginia's case she's already had litters and she's living with some of the consequences now, so she may feel differently    Here's to a speedy recovery for her. Kristine |
| I can understand your feelings--usually finality in most situations is a little sad. |
Mad Dog wrote: Of course, in Virginia's case she's already had litters and she's living with some of the consequences now, so she may feel differently We're living with the consequences too. Which besides some new scars is actually pretty swell. |
Baba wrote: I'll see your scar and raise you one big, ripe bruise I just found, no, actually, never mind where, and I don't even know how I got it!  It's a good thing they're cute!!! KB |
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