some agility videos
 )Sybil Exc B JWW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goNGOm_B ... er&list=UL Macy Exc A JWW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn8o1cNO ... er&list=UL Sybil Exc A Std http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqPBXsG7 ... er&list=UL Macy Exc A Std http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDnXeAen ... d4arXM8Esz Hope they turned out OK. Still learning. kristine |
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| They turned out great and so did the girls. I love watching and learning from you. I'm so bummed I didn't get to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Great to watch! I couldn't see what you did to cause the weaves mistake. What am I missing? |
| See what I mean by learning...I saw it. |
you're both (probably) right. Pam, if you saw me getting too far ahead of her, yes, you would not want to do that to a green dog. She should be past that, but, hey, she's Sybil  Speaking of learning experiences, have I got some great video from today to upload Kristine |
| Hi Kristine, Macy looked in fine form as did you! It was so much fun watching you. I am in beginning agility with James and it was great to watch your runs. I do have a question, tho. Why did you not have to wait on the contacts on the walk and a-frame? I still don't understand the rules or titles. The videos turned out great, too.  |
MomPoorman wrote: Hi Kristine, Macy looked in fine form as did you! It was so much fun watching you. I am in beginning agility with James and it was great to watch your runs. I do have a question, tho. Why did you not have to wait on the contacts on the walk and a-frame? I still don't understand the rules or titles. The videos turned out great, too. Great job! Yes, Teddy and I are in the same class with Sandy and James and I have the same questions? Cindy |
| Your agility videos always inspire me! Great to watch! |
| Hi, Cindy and Sandy (and thanks all): The dogs don't have to wait on the contacts as part of the requirements, they just have to touch the yellow. How you accomplish this is up to you. Traditionally there are two ways of accomplishing this: teaching a (true) running contact, or teaching some kind of stop in the yellow. For the stop someone (once upon a time, don't know who) taught their dogs to stop with the two rear legs on the yellow, and the two front legs on the floor (called a 2 on-2 off, some times denoted 2o2o) This is a great way to assure hitting the contact and it also gives you greater control coming off the contact,esp important if handler is mobility impaired, but also if a sharp change of direction/obstacle discrimination is coming up. Draw back on the A-frame esp, with its steeper angle, is that it forces larger dogs to stop at a rather awkward angle and though a border collie, e.g. may easily shift his weight to his rear and take some of the impact off the front, our larger, squarer more upright dogs have a tendency (especially at speed) to slam their shoulders into the ground - not ideal. Teaching a true running contact (where dog truly understands that their job is to make sure at least one foot hits the yellow) would be better for such dogs, especially, but it is HARD and results in more hits and misses than the more reliable stop/ Agility training is ever evolving. so some day someone(s) will no doubt reliably discover how to teach this effectively to all size dogs (smaller dogs by virtue of their smaller stride are more likely to naturally stride into the contact zone - with our dogs that is NOT a given) Some top handlers appear to have taught reliable running contacts to their bigger dogs as well, some day perhaps us mere mortal trainers will be able to emulate them. In the mean time I teach my dogs a method proposed by Linda Mecklenburg called the one rear toe on (1rto) method. This method did not catch on to the extent the 2o2o did, but I actually find it much easier to teach my dogs. With this method they can run to the bottom and just have to remember to keep one rear foot (they can keep both, but at least one) on until released, meaning they go further down the contact and are less likely to stop at the more icky angle. Over time my instructor had me add a quick release, meaning I would say OK (release them) as soon as they hit the contact, a sort of faux running contact. This is advantageous in two ways; it results in faster times as stopping on the contact takes time, and no slamming shoulders into the ground to speak of. The DISADVANTAGE, which I'm sure a more dedicated trainer would have overcome, is that I now cannot rely on an actual stop - they anticipate the quick release - in trials especially. They hit the contact zone pretty reliably (Macy more so than Sybil ) but you loose the control advantage unless you work your tush off to truly maintain both. I also did not do a good job of teaching and independant contact (meaning they will stop no matter what the handler's position and even if I'm on the sidelines doing cartwheels) I noticed this esp in class the other night when I needed to get well ahead of Sybil on a sequence following the contacts and she bailed cheerfully on both - hm. Basically there are a number of ways to obtain the same thing and you use whatever works best for you and your dog. How exciting that there are so many new dogs coming up in agility!!!!!!! Kristine |
| You can esp see how the not stopping on contacts hurt us in Sybil's exc standard run yesterday (though, frankly, you can teach a flip from a contact to a tunnel even with a (faux) running contact, it's just not either dog's strong suit as we really haven't worked it, tut tut. Macy did much better, but I don't have her run on tape); http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5faZ-Y6y ... d4arXM8Esz kristine |
| Thanks Kristine for all that great information and explanation! Our trainer teaches the 2o2o. Of course it is easier for them to stop right now as the A-frame isn't at the full height. I would love it if at some point in the near future, we could get together for a practice and learning class near you. It's just a few hour drive from Joliet to the Milwaukee area. That would be a fun day for those of us in that area to practice with a bunch of other sheepdogs!  (I would personally love to see you demonstrating the cartwheels on the sidelines!  )Cindy |
 Well, I haven't done a cart wheel in years, and as noted my dogs DO NOT have independant contacts and weaves, and certainly not to the point where they'd ignore me performing any of the above, esp after I (probably ) fall on my face   We have a few get together options, depending on what people would like to do. 1) we can do a ring rental some time. I've been doing that on my own where Pam (Simon's Mom) and I train (Cream City Canines, Waterford, WI) the past few weekends because I need to work with Dazzle. WAG (Spring Grove, IL) also does ring rentals. Not sure if you need to be with a member to do that, but there are two OES handlers who belong to WAG (Kathi McBride and Jan Guthrie) and one or both of them might be game. 2) Sunny, Dawn and I have on occasion done semi-privates with my agility instructor (Sue Fregien) because they like working with her when they're in town, and though I get to work with her all the time, I still enjoy doing these sessions because it's a lot of fun and more interesting, too, when it's all OES. 3) and less likely, but 2-3 years ago the WI OES Club did a weekend OES agility seminar with Sue. It was a blast, but it's not easy to do because the dogs were at such different levels, with quite a few rank beginners ( I mean had never taken a class) It was mostly used to expose OES people to agility and a few did get hooked Just a few options that come to mind. I'm sure there are lots of potential ways to meet up and I bet Pam and maybe even Randy & Gar would enjoy it too. You might as well also start looking to see what trials are in your area and taking the kids to them to get them used to the commotion. Crating is often limited at indoor trials, though it hasn't seemed too bad of late, but you can always crate in your vehicle this time of year and still take advantage of walking through and letting the guys get used to the (chaotic!) atmosphere. Kristine |
| LOVE watching the videos, Kristine. Sybil, Macy and you are all looking terrific on course. You are such a good handler and both of them obviously enjoy running the course with you immensely. What a joy to watch. Thanks for sharing. Linda Zimmerman & Hudson (who has one Nov. JWW leg but stopped for some re-training a while ago and is hoping to start entering trials again later this year) |
| Kristine, The ring rental in Waterford sounds like a good idea. Maybe Sandy and James would like that idea also. My goofy work schedule will be the issue to work around. I only have 2 weekends off a month and I have days off during the week other weeks. Then of course there's the weekend's we are conformation showing. Jeez, maybe I should have thought this through more!  So far, there is only one weekend in March I'm planning on showing. March 10 & 11th. Maybe we could see if everyone would be available one day the following weekend. Keep in mind we are beginners and are just starting to put a few things together. I'm in awe watching the way you guys work and run the course. I leave class sometimes thinking, my god, how many years will it take to get to that level!  Cindy |
4 my OES wrote: Keep in mind we are beginners and are just starting to put a few things together. I'm in awe watching the way you guys work and run the course. I leave class sometimes thinking, my god, how many years will it take to get to that level! Cindy Not years, with the right instructor - the hardest part of agility, often, is finding the right instructor!!! THAT took me years I can only do weekends, but I think I've only entered one trial so far in March, and I think it's the last weekend. Have to double-check, but let's talk to Sandy and see if she's interested and has time. Then we'll just have to compare calendars and see what we can work out. Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: 4 my OES wrote: Keep in mind we are beginners and are just starting to put a few things together. I'm in awe watching the way you guys work and run the course. I leave class sometimes thinking, my god, how many years will it take to get to that level! Cindy Not years, with the right instructor - the hardest part of agility, often, is finding the right instructor!!! THAT took me years I can only do weekends, but I think I've only entered one trial so far in March, and I think it's the last weekend. Have to double-check, but let's talk to Sandy and see if she's interested and has time. Then we'll just have to compare calendars and see what we can work out. Kristine Sounds good. I'm leaving for Indy after work in the morning and I'll talk with Sandy about this on Sunday or Monday. Cindy |
| Perfect! Have fun this weekend and we'll catch up later. Kristine |
| Hi Kristine and Cindy, Sounds like fun! Cindy and I are entering Auburn, IN on March 10-11 so a weekend after that would be good. Don't think I have anything before the Chicagoland specialty at the beginning of April in DeKalb. |
MomPoorman wrote: Hi Kristine and Cindy, Sounds like fun! Cindy and I are entering Auburn, IN on March 10-11 so a weekend after that would be good. Don't think I have anything before the Chicagoland specialty at the beginning of April in DeKalb. Cool Sandy! I just sent you a PM about this....lol Cindy |
| Hey, I finally got to watch the videos!! Good job to all Mace looked really good for her comeback debut!! Sandy and Cindy - I hope you get to come up and practice with Kristine - I always sneak in a lesson with them and Sue whenever I'm in the neighborhood! |
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