How Big is Your Sheepie?
 She's weighing in at about 95 lbs. She's a mix, with what we do not know, although I think it's a Newfie!! So, the question is...how big is your Sheepie!?!?!? READY, SET, GO  |
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New OES Mama wrote: Hey Everyone! I'm having a "disagreement" with the DH...He says Nola is fat. I think that she looks big but not fat (if that makes sense). Almost husky...round but not tall... She's weighing in at about 95 lbs. She's a mix, with what we do not know, although I think it's a Newfie!! So, the question is...how big is your Sheepie!?!?!? READY, SET, GO We need a picture! The fact that she's 95 pounds is not enough info. |
| Violet is 26" withers and 70lbs. She is also 9 yrs old which might make a difference for a younger dog comparison. |
violet wrote: Violet is 26" withers and 70lbs. She is also 9 yrs old which might make a difference for a younger dog comparison. But we also need to know her build, so a picture would help. For example - Chewie is also 70# but is 23.5 inches tall. Chewie's super athletic and lean....but he has more bone. Weight and height alone are not enough to really determine if she's plump or not  |
| LOL! Sorry! I figured you would all need a pic but I don't have a good one. Here's a video though! I hope you can see her well enough! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d25JRb ... ata_player Thanks everyone!  |
 It says the video has been removed by the user. |
Oscar is a bit "fluffy" at 110 lbs.  However, with all of his digestive troubles, he can drop 10 lbs in a week if he is ill, so we have to watch him closely. Ideally, he should be about 105 lbs. At 110 lbs, I can feel a thin layer of fat over his ribs, though his spine does protrude a bit. He has a definite shape as well.Laurie and Oscar |
oh boy, I just can't win here.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klzUUJW ... ata_player Try that. If it doesn't work...I'm giving up.  |
got sheep wrote: violet wrote: Violet is 26" withers and 70lbs. She is also 9 yrs old which might make a difference for a younger dog comparison. But we also need to know her build, so a picture would help. For example - Chewie is also 70# but is 23.5 inches tall. Chewie's super athletic and lean....but he has more bone. Weight and height alone are not enough to really determine if she's plump or not Violet is not "big boned" at all. The Vet said she was a good weight an even could put on a pound or two. She has HD, so she seems happy. I did increase her food to 2 cups in the morning and 2 cups in the evening...she's not athletic either, unless you call laying on the couch and pestering her sisters a sport. lol I have a really hard time uploading pics on this site, but I will try again soon. |
| Yes, the video worked! Still, kind of hard to tell. She's all nicely shaggy She looks stocky, but it also could be the hair or her build as well. Guess I'll just have to wait a few months until I can touch her for real at Sheepiepalooza!!  |
| Angus is 28 1/2 inches at the withers and was in the low 70's at his last weigh in. The vet wanted a little more fluff on him, since you could feel too much of the spine and ribs. This is the way we got him from his former owners who had a problem with vomiting and not wanting to eat. We've had him since August '11 and haven't had a problem with this at all. I think it was just stress on Angus since he was kenneled alot from what we heard. He is blossoming here.....you can feel more meat on the rib and spine area.....vomiting almost never, just gagging once in a while when Angus is pulling on the leash! |
| I was delighted to find this topic as I've been curious a long while whether my Boz is some sort of an anomaly or not ... only because when stranger type people see him for the first time, 8 out of 10 times the response is: "What a horse! Got a saddle for him?" Bosley (nicknamed: Boz) is now 5 yrs and 3+ months old. He grew massively as a pup, so much so that his hip dysplasia (sp) became quite evident and so profound at 20 weeks he went lame often ... thee months later he underwent a clever hip replacement like procedure called a triple point ostectomy (TPO) and has had no complications (except that he still does not like to stand tall or for more then a moment on his hind legs) nonetheless ... sorry for the rambling! My Vet said when Boz was a pup that he'd expect an adult weight of 95 pounds ... good guesser and great Vet - Bosley's weight stays within 96 to 106 pounds depending whether its winter or not ... When asked about Boz's size being abnormally large or not, my Vet said Boz is fairly average, perhaps a bit on the large side, but nothing unusual. Yet I see so many photos of other OES who look 'smaller'. I think it's that he is l-o-n-g more then he is tall. Bosley measures: at the wither/shoulder he is 28.75 inches tall; from his neck to top of his bob his spine measures 39.5 inches long. his current weight is 106 and his paw size is 4.25 inches wide which has barely increased since he was 4 months old. His ribs are easily defined and his belly/loin section is taunt with no droop whatsoever. He eats 4 heaping cups of dry food /day (Taste of Wild). |
| The pet bred/BYB/puppy mill dogs are built differently. They tend to be tall and more rangy - and without the amount of bone and solidness that they are supposed to have, unfortunately. The leg bones look more delicate and finer than they should for the dog's size. Most OES from better breeders (sorry, I know I'm wording that really untactfully ) run 24-maybe 26 inches tall at the withers for males. There are some taller, but they would be in the minority. They also should be a perfect square - height and length of body measurements should match.Structural issues pop up so much more easily when dogs are bred who aren't put together right....and the resulting puppies suffer through their life as a result. It's a pet peeve of mine, but if you get your pup from a breeder who is trying to improve and better the breed, instead of someone who breeds to sell puppies, everyone would be better off. And in the long run, they are healthier and actually from a $$$ standpoint, end up being a better deal than the BYB pup that seemed a better price...thinking you couldn't afford a really good dog. OK, enough of my rant... it just is such a shame these poor pups are being bred by people who do this with no regard for the outcomes. And WELCOME fellow Minnesotan!!! Great to see you  |
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What Dawn said. My Teddy is 25 inches at the shoulder and weighs 72.5 pounds. He is very active and you can find his ribs but he's not to thin. Welcome from Illinois! Cindy |
oops, I forgot to list my two. Bond, on the left was 15 months in this picture last month, and he is 24" tall and weighs 75#. Chewie on the right is 6 yrs old, is 23.5" and weighs 72#. I attribute the 2# difference to the extra coat Bond has now. I do many sports with mine, and both are lean and muscled. When Bond is showing, I beef him up a bit more. We don't have any shows planned until May, so he gets to hang out at the leaner, more healthy weight for now. |
| My Dutch is a big boy. He weighs in at about 120-125 lbs. The vet says he's fine, even though I am constantly concerned about it. He's tall too, about 27 inches at the shoulder. He does have a tendency to be fluffy, but I watch his weight pretty closely. If he were to lose 20 lbs, I think he would look very scrawny. Laura http://photos.oes.org/displayimage.php? ... at=0&pos=1 |
got sheep wrote: And WELCOME fellow Minnesotan!!! Great to see you Thank you Dawn! I do hope we have an opportunity to meet some day and thank you for the information on the OES structure / build - I may have read that 'square' info early on and forgotten - (and that does explains a lot now) - Bosley's origin was by a first time backyard breeder (from central northern Minnesota) and I did meet his parents - neither were the perfect square structure you mentioned ... I see now I should have been better informed, but I would NEVER do anything different even if forced to do it all over again! * He literally saved my life (the year he came into my life was Christmas '07 and in the six months prior my husband had been killed and I also lost my two 14-yr old Samoyeds and my 13-yr old cat - it was my year from hell) * So! Regardless how inferior he is, he's a keeper and now, knowing more about him (with this information) just makes him all the more special for me! Thanks again!  |
| Mine is about average size but good coat |
| Bloo is 2 in March. He weighs 34kg. He is 27" from shoulder. He is starting to broaden out finally, he used to look like a dog on 4 sticks he was really little and leggy. Now hes started to fill out he looks normal lol |
| Dawns answer as so much info there! Indeed BYBs are not built the same as breed standard. Vets don't meet the bred to standard dogs all that often so don't realize OES should not be longer than taller, should be what I call a medium-tall dog, not a horse. And we get back to early neutering that tends to keep the bones, especially leg bones, growing too long resulting in longer legged and often structurally compromised dogs. OES are not large, they just seem that way with all their hair. Loved to shave mine down and look at people's faces, "Where are the fluffy ones?" "Standing at your feet." As to weight, it depends on height and bone mass. No one weight carries across the breed. You learn by feeling. Belly should be tucked up underneath.....not quite as much as a greyhound of course, but a good upward slant. You should be able to easily feel the ribs, they should not be overly padded. Proud ribs like a starving dog, no, but they should be felt and the space between them as well. The area behind the rib cage....abdomen should turn in giving the dog a definitive "waist." If you want weight on the dog, make it in muscle mass. Most of MO's life she had "thunder thighs" rock hard, well developed back legs. I imagine Chewie is another "rock butt. " Then there was Jack, a bit fluffy as he just loved to eat...everything. Unfortunately his rear end was so bad he couldn't run and could only walk short distances. Both rescues, product --in Jack's case for sure-- a puppy mill in the southern part of the state. But of course they pride themselves on "healthy dogs, no 'known' medical problems." |
| Sometimes you do get a large dog. Compact but tall and big boned from a good breeder and I think it depends on the size of the litter. I might be wrong on the last point. So if there are less puppies they get more food and should come out larger ?. Georgi weight is now 40 kg never sized her up |
Parwaz wrote: Sometimes you do get a large dog. Compact but tall and big boned from a good breeder and I think it depends on the size of the litter. I might be wrong on the last point. So if there are less puppies they get more food and should come out larger ?. Georgi weight is now 40 kg never sized her up Naw, ultimate size is predominantly genetic. Puppy size may be influenced a bit by litter size, though. Kristine |
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