lily is getting spayed

Shes going in on the 10th i know its a month away but it been 9yrs since the last female dog went in for this. I am nervous about it.

I have a few questions. Should i shave lily back down would grooming and the surgery be to much? Should i let her up on the furniture after? Should i pack food for her because of allergies..if i remeber right girls stay over night. Oes arent common in my area are they like other herding dogs and are prone to having issues being under?

Any peice of advice is apperciated.
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Mady didn't stay the night, she was back by the end of the day. And we didn't shave her down either. We did make sure that she was groomed up and mat free before going in. They shave the incision site, so no grooming there in the few weeks after her spay either. And someone else will know more about this, but I don't think that Mady had any food at all that day, so we didn't send any in with her. Seems like so long ago, now.
Since Dahlia just went a few months ago, it is pretty fresh in my mind. They shaved the incision areas on her belly and a little on her paw for the IV. The rest of her was left alone. We did make sure she was just bathed and clean since we knew she wouldn't be allowed to be wet for awhile.

We were not allowed to give her any food after mid-night the night before. We dropped her off by 9am in the morning. They called us about 2pm and the surgery had went well. They wanted to keep her for about 2-3 hours while she acclimated to waking up from the anesthesia. We picked her up around 5pm. They had asked me if they could give her a little food before we came to get her to make sure she could keep it down. She has no food issues, so I allowed them to feed her a little bowl of food and she was fine.
She was very groggy when we picked her up but, she walked out to the car (very uncomfortably, crying a bit) and it was sad....
They gave me the cone of shame for her in case she tried to lick her incision, but, we just watched her and barely made her wear it.
She was not allowed to jump or get wet or run for 10-14 days. There were no antibiotics and they gave us a few days worth of Rimadyl for any pain/inflammation....
We let her on the furniture with our assistance since we wanted her to be comfortable. We just didn't let her jump up willy nilly....

That was pretty much it. Many vets are just using internal stitches/glue now, so you might not even need to go back to have them removed?

In my pre-planning... I took about 3 Kongs and filled them with various things/peanut butter etc and froze them ahead of the surgery. I also bought some frosty paws cups. I also made sure I had the biggest bully sticks I could find and other bones/treats.... We had to keep her mentally busy since she wasn't physically allowed to do anything for almost 2 weeks!
Agree - no need to shave her down. Do ask if they can please not go crazy shaving her leg for the IV. I had Sybil spayed right before Christmas and you can't even tell where she was shaved (my vet is an OES breeder herself :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: ) I've had them come home with six inches of leg coat shaved down with a surgical blade. That grows back real quick, not, when you have a dog in coat :evil: :roll: They may be reluctant to do it because they're not used to worrying about coat, and it's not the end of the world, but it's worth asking.

Some vets keep the bitch overnight, some don't. Some times it depends how late in the day the surgery took place. The common thing lately seems to be to feed them 1/2 of a normal meal the evening of surgery, so I would ask if they plan on keeping her and, if so, do they plan on feeding her anything before she goes home, because she has allergies and is on a restricted diet, but you'd be happy to bring her food if needed.

Hopefully they will simply let her come home. Plan on crating her and leash walking her to potty for about 48 hours at least, and hopefully they are also of the pain management school of post op care, so they may send her home with some rimadyl. If she's trying to clmb the walls she's probably feeling TOO good and you may want to cut back on the rimadyl a little if so. They're not supposed to get up on furniture, but, good luck with that ;-)

Yes, SOME OES carry the MDR1 mutation (multidrug sensitivity mutation) You haven't had her tested (not the end of the world) so you don't know her status, so I would just let them know that we KNOW that this exists in the breed, that you don't know specifically if she has the mutation, so please proceed as if she does when considering what medications to use.

Most OES are not tested, most OES are spayed and neutered, most of their owners have no idea the MDR1 mutation even exists and yet it's a very rare dog that has a problem of any kind while being spayed or neutered.

Kristine
Mad Dog wrote:
Yes, SOME OES carry the MDR1 mutation (multidrug sensitivity mutation) You haven't had her tested (not the end of the world) so you don't know her status, so I would just let them know that we KNOW that this exists in the breed, that you don't know specifically if she has the mutation, so please proceed as if she does when considering what medications to use.

Most OES are not tested, most OES are spayed and neutered, most of their owners have no idea the MDR1 mutation even exists and yet it's a very rare dog that has a problem of any kind while being spayed or neutered.

Kristine


I forgot to mention that part.... I had Dahlia tested when she was younger so I knew she was negative. But, I would remind your vet that OES are on the list and to just take pre-caution. I think it is only 5% or less that have the MDR1 mutation so I wouldn't worry.
Take a deep breath.......and let out slowly. Great answers above. She will be fine. And you won't have to worry about her coming into heat ever again. Surgery scar is usually only a couple of inches and depending on how the vet does it, staples or stitches. DO keep her away from the booboo site! Cone of shame, soft cone (easier on your shins), I've had some girls who did well with a t'#### with rear leg holes cut in to hold down their "dress."
I didn't even know about this virus? I don't think my dogs were ever tested?

My female who is three now was spayed with little problems. She did not stay overnight although we had to keep her quiet a few days. The first night she was sort of out of it...then we had to give her the pain killers to keep her quiet!

But you do have to make sure there is no infection after and the stitches do not bust...keeping them quiet is the hardest...hope you have a crate or gated off area...She can jump back on the bed AFTER the vet sees her after the surgery. Before that, and definately within the first feww days, no, don't let her jump up, run, etc. A spaying is like a woman getting a hysterectomy....time is need to heal and no jumping, running, strenous exercise....

She'll be fine...just follow doctor orders...
What timing! Benson was just spayed 2 days ago. SOP for our vet is to keep them overnight, so we brought her home Friday morning. I agree, all the advice above is good advice.

We didn't take any food in for her since they only feed very small quantities at a time during recovery. Her incision is less than 2 inches long, and she only has internal stitches, so we don't need to go back for any stitch/staple removal. And they only shaved a small spot on her leg for the IV. We didn't shave her down, but made sure she was well groomed and mat-free before taking her in, and she got another good brushing tonight to deal with the couple of mats that were starting to form. As for pain management, they gave us enough rimadyl for 4 days, but told us to stop after 2 unless she seems to really need it.

She's been good so far about licking the incision - we've only caught her a couple of times, and stopped her right away. (But we both work from home, so it is pretty easy for us to watch her like a hawk.) What will be tough is the restricted activity for 2 weeks, especially since we are getting our first real snow, and her favorite activity is to go bounding through the drifts. We're working on teaching her new tricks/behaviors (including "belly up" so we can check the incision every day) to keep her occupied. Fingers crossed that it distracts her enough! :crossed:

Good luck! I'm sure she'll be just fine.
:clappurple: :clappurple: I like "belly up" Good idea!
AnInnocentEvil wrote:
Shes going in on the 10th i know its a month away but it been 9yrs since the last female dog went in for this. I am nervous about it.

I have a few questions. Should i shave lily back down would grooming and the surgery be to much? Should i let her up on the furniture after? Should i pack food for her because of allergies..if i remeber right girls stay over night. Oes arent common in my area are they like other herding dogs and are prone to having issues being under?

Any peice of advice is apperciated.

I worry every single time I spay/neuter... it's perfectly normal because we love our dogs.

As Kristine mentions, ask them to go easy with the leg shaving. The IV shave down can be more bothersome in the days following surgery than the incision site. The dog can cause skin irritation by licking and you'll also have staining to deal with. A long sleeve shirt or toe-less sock slipped over the leg (only if she's not a sock eater) will help protect it.

My girls all came home the same day. Mine were whiny the first night (I demand pain meds) but the next morning it's like nothing ever happened. They're full of pis* and vinegar and would have run out the door to play if given the opportunity. Follow down time instructions and duration then ease her back into normal activity.

As mentioned, definitely ask the vet whether you should bring food if she has food allergies. Also ask that her kennel be tagged with a food allergy notice. Staff is usually good but you don't want her skin to have problems because someone accidentally gave her inappropriate food.

Best wishes :hearts:
Good luck to Lily :hearts:

As mentioned - depending on time of surgery, no food after a certain time the night before.

Our vet sends them home the day of surgery (and I love that) - most vets are not in the clinic overnight, so very often when they keep them overnight, the dog actually stays alone in an empty vet clinic :evil: :evil:

We also have the radio wave surgery unit (a similar thing to laser surgery, but a lower temp with less tissue damage) as an option - I have used it since they got it and LOVE it. Our vet also uses skin glue, so no sutures for the dog to mess with and nothing to remove later. :D

And yes to the above - keep her mentally busy. Don't go too overboard with NO activity, as she likely will go bonkers and be more likely to go more wild and do something not good. Better is nice controlled activity with lots of interaction :D :D
got sheep wrote:
most vets are not in the clinic overnight, so very often when they keep them overnight, the dog actually stays alone in an empty vet clinic :evil: :evil:

What's the point of leaving a dog if he/she is going to be all alone? :evil: That practice REALLY bothers me...
6Girls wrote:
got sheep wrote:
most vets are not in the clinic overnight, so very often when they keep them overnight, the dog actually stays alone in an empty vet clinic :evil: :evil:

What's the point of leaving a dog if he/she is going to be all alone? :evil: That practice REALLY bothers me...


I bet most people don't know it either. It's a huge pet peeve of mine. :(
One dog I was forced to leave was Panda after her bladder sutures failed and she need an emergency second surgery the following morning. I conveyed my concern because of her separation anxiety... they called and allowed me to meet them at the office for a 10pm pickup. 8)
She may want to drink a lot of water after being anesthetized but give her little bits frequently instead of a lot all at once. We had the experience where our sheepie drank a lot of water because I didn't know this and threw up. Same with food she probably won't want much but if she does feed in small increments.

And good luck keeping them still. They're not supposed to climb stairs, furniture or jump for days and we had our stairway blocked off and Hannah jumped over the blockade. :twitch: She was quite something. I was even sleeping downstairs with her but she had to follow me when I went upstairs to get something.

Good luck, I know you will worry because that's your baby but she'll be fine.
Most vets you can drop them off in the morning and pick them up early evening. Just had my 9 plus year old done and no problems what so ever, not even a cone in fact over the years with the girls, nothing like a cone never needed, if they were interested in the surgery site a t-shirt on was better then being a cone head and banging into things. A matter of keeping them a little bit quieter till all is on the heal especially for the first few days after. Pottying out on the lead for that then no chance of charging around and splitting stiches. She'll do fine. Leg shaving for the IV, none of mine have had that as I am anal about that, they should be able to find the vein without shaving the leg. :wink: When I dropped the last girl off, I actually wrote a note to be pinned to her admission data "DO NOT SHAVE THE LEG" as most of the time it is a vet nurse or assistant that preps the dog before a vet starts the procedure.

In all the years having girls, not one of them in later life being spayed have had there leg shaved for IV's in fact any op where they are under same thing applies. Really no need for it and a good vet should be able to find the vein without butchering the front leg. :wink:

Belly hair grows fast, leg hair takes longer, so tell them NO SHAVING the leg for an IV. :D Find it without shaving the leg. :P :lol:

Best wishes she'll do OK :wink: :ghug:
Thanks for all the advice. I will bathe and groom her before and i will have to talk to my vet about the shaving thing and remind them several times about her allergies. She is the only oes that goes to that office and of course is a staff fav. They know how crazy she can get after trying to jump over the counter to get to staff... 8O im not sure about staying over night, my last female dog did but that was sooo long ago and done at the same vets office. They are the only e-vet in town have an on call vet and overnight staff. I will just have to lift her carefully on and off the furniture if she isnt supposed to get up there by herself. She will open doors and jump over barriers to get to me, its just better if shes on the couch with me....she isnt spoiled at all :roll: :wink:
They also usually come home with some pain killers to take the first few days which should keep her calm and a little sleepy...You might want to look into the Comfy cone if she'll have to wear an e collar a while. The Comfy cone is so much nicer and I think nicer for the dog too. I got mine on line but now they sell them at Pet Co....
got sheep wrote:
6Girls wrote:
got sheep wrote:
most vets are not in the clinic overnight, so very often when they keep them overnight, the dog actually stays alone in an empty vet clinic :evil: :evil:

What's the point of leaving a dog if he/she is going to be all alone? :evil: That practice REALLY bothers me...


I bet most people don't know it either. It's a huge pet peeve of mine. :(


It's always a good idea to ask. I'm very fortunate - my vet has techs on site 24/7, and they do rounds every hour. It's one of the reasons I picked this practice.
Alright, when the snow lets up we will go to petco and get a comfy cone.... and as i said before my vet has staff 24/7.
Don't assume a cone is going to be needed (although being prepared is good!). I never have needed one for my own dogs or my fosters. Call it luck or whatever...but I'm not complaining! :wink:
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